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El Guapo said...

Did anyone actually read this.

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NcaaAssassinG13 said...

There was a post on here the other day talking about how teams in the SEC should'nt have to play anybody OOC because the SEC is so good. Some of the posters said that you get beat up so much playing in the SEC conference that nothing is wrong with playing all cupcakes outside of the SEC.

Delusional, maybe? But hey, maybe they are right. So I decided to compare the schedules of Alabama and USC going all the way back to 1990. So who do you guys think played the harder schedule over the last 22 years?

Obviously, what the deciding factor will be is if Alabama's conference schedule will make up enough for their lack of OOC high profile games. No postseason games are considered here, since the debate about SOS is what determines how gets picked for BCS bowls and with the new selection committee format coming soon, it will be more debated than ever 2 years from now.

Sorry, but there was no way to do this without creating a super long post, so I'll just put the results here first, and then I'll just throw down all the games after so you can see for yourself, if you are interested in this.

The results: Bama's conf schedule makes up some ground, but not nearly enough, as there was only a 7 game advantage for the Tide over 22 years in the amount of 10 game winning teams each team faced.

Bama's non-existent OOC schedule and USC's willingness to take on anybody is what gives USC a giant edge in SOS over Alabama. USC played approx 2 seasons worth of games (24) 147-123, more than Alabama did against winning teams. The fact that Alabama's win at Penn St this year was their only win on the road vs an AQ winning team since 1990, almost seems to incredible to be true. Sad, but true.

USC 26 Conf games vs 10+ win teams 17 OOC games vs 10+ win AQ teams 43 games (vs 10+ win teams (15-28)

Alabama 33 Conf games vs 10+ win teams 3 OOC games vs 10+ win teams 36 games (vs 10+ win teams (7-29)

USC 79 Conf games vs 6-9 win teams(.500 or better) 22 OOC games vs over .500 AQ teams 3 OOC games vs 9+ win Non AQ teams 104 games vs (.500 or better AQ teams or 9+ win Non AQ teams) 104 + 43 = 147 total games

Alabama 72 Conf games vs 6-9 win teams (.500 or better) 6 OOC games vs over .500 AQ teams 9 OOC games vs 9+ win Non AQ teams 87 games vs (.500 or better AQ teams or 9+ win Non AQ teams) 87 + 36 = 123 total games

ALABAMA (1990-2011) Vs AQ Conference Schools & ND

Wins - 8 1995 NC State 3-8 1996 @NC State 3-8-1 2006 Duke 0-12 2008 Clemson 7-6 (Atlanta, GA) 2009 VaTech 10-3 (Atlanta, GA) 2010 Penn St 7-6 2010 @Duke 3-9 2011 @Penn St 9-4 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Losses - 6 1990 Penn St 9-3 2000 @UCLA 6-6 2001 UCLA 7-4 2002 @Oklahoma 12-2 2003 Oklahoma 12-2 2007 Florida St 7-6 (Jax, FL) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

ALABAMA Vs Non-AQ Conference Schools

Losses - 8 N. Illinois 10-2 La Tech 9-2 La Tech 8-3 @Hawaii 9-5 S. Miss 8-4 S. Miss 8-4 C. Florida 7-4 La-Monroe 6-6 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Wins - 52 Hawaii 11-3 @Hawaii 10-4 Southern Miss 9-3 Southern Miss 9-3 Southern Miss 9-4 BYU 9-5

Southern Miss 8-3 North Texas 8-5 Houston 8-5 Southern Miss 7-4 South Florida 7-4 La-Lafayette 7-4 Houston 7-4 Southern Miss 7-5 Southern Miss 7-5 Southern Mis 7-5 Southern Miss 7-6 East Carolina 6-5 Southern Miss 6-5 Southern Miss 6-5 Southern Miss 6-5

Arkansas St 6-6 @La-Lafayette 5-6 @Memphis 5-6 La Tech 5-6 Southern Miss 5-6 North Texas 5-7 Kent St 5-7 Bowling Green 4-7 Middle Tenn St 4-7 La-Monroe 4-8 Middle Tenn St. 4-8

Tulane 3-9 Florida Intl. 3-9 Utah St. 3-8 Houston 3-8 Utah St. 3-8 La Tech 2-9 Temple 2-9 @Tulane 2-9 North Texas 2-9 UTEP 2-9 Memphis 2-9 Southern Miss 2-8-1 Tulane 2-10 W. Kentucky 2-10 North Texas 2-10 Cincinnati 1-10 Tulane 1-10 Tulane 1-10 San Jose St 1-12 Florida Intl. 0-12

D1-AA (7-0) Tenn-Chattanooga 3x Western Carolina 2x Georgia State Georgia Southern

Alabama Totals (7-0) 7 games vs D1-AA Alabama Totals (52-8) 60 games vs Non AQ Beat 20 teams with 3 wins or less + 7 D1aa games = 27 wins Alabama only 4 wins OOC vs AQ winning teams. Alabama (3-2) on the road vs AQ schools, and (4-1) vs the Non AQ schools. Totals (68-14) 82 games (7-3) road games ===============================================================

USC Road Wins - 22 (12 vs winning teams) ------------------------------------------------------- 2009 @Ohio St 11-2 2004 @VaTech 11-3* Landover, MD 2005 @Notre Dame 9-3 2006 @Arkansas 10-4 2002 @Colorado 9-5 2011 @Notre Dame 8-5 2003 @Auburn 8-5 1990 @Ohio St 7-4-1 1990 @Syracuse 7-4-2 1996 @Houston 7-5 1997 @Notre Dame 7-6 1992 @Oklahoma 5-4-2 2009 @Notre Dame 6-6 2001 @Notre Dame 5-6 2007 @Nebraska 5-7 2003 @Notre Dame 5-7 1999 @Notre Dame 5-7 2008 @Virginia 5-7 2000 @Penn St 5-7 **(E. Rutherford, NJ) 2007 @Notre Dame 3-9 2010 @Minnesota 3-9 1996 @Illinois 2-9

USC Road Losses - 10 1994 @Penn St 12-0 1993 @Notre Dame 11-1 1998 @Florida St 11-2 2002 @Kansas St 11-2 1996 @Penn St 11-2 ** 1993 @Penn St 10-2 1991 @Notre Dame 10-3 1995 @Notre Dame 9-3 2001 @Notre Dame 5-6 1999 @Notre Dame 5-7 ========================================================================== USC Totals- Road Games (22-10)

USC Home Wins - 20 (12 vs winning teams) 1991 Penn St 11-2 2008 Ohio St 10-3 2006 Notre Dame 10-3 2002 Notre Dame 10-3 1990 Penn St 9-3 1998 Notre Dame 9-3 1998 Purdue 9-4 *** (Anaheim,CA) 2002 Auburn 9-4 2006 Nebraska 9-5 1996 Notre Dame 8-3 1994 Baylor 7-5 2008 Notre Dame 7-6 2004 Notre Dame 6-6 2011 Syracuse 5-7 2005 Arkansas 4-7 2010 Virginia 4-8 2001 Colorado 3-8 2011 Minnesota 3-9 1995 Houston 2-9 1993 Houston 1-9-1

USC Home Losses - 7 1997 Florida St 11-1 1992 Notre Dame 10-1-1 1993 N.Carolina 10-3 *** 2000 Notre Dame 9-3 1990 Notre Dame 9-3 2010 Notre Dame 8-5 2001 Kansas St 6-6 ================== 1994 Notre Dame 6-5-1 (Tie)

Vs AQ Conferences & ND USC Overall Home (20-7-1) Overall Road (22-11) USC Totals (42-18-1)

USC Losses vs Non AQ Teams - 1 Memphis 5-6

USC Wins vs Non AQ Conf - 18 @Hawaii 10-4 Hawaii 9-5 @Hawaii 9-4

Fresno St 8-5 La Tech 8-3 San Diego St 7-5 San Jose St 7-5

BYU 5-6 San Diego St 5-6 @Hawaii 5-7 Utah St 4-7 BYU 4-8 Colorado St 4-8 San Jose St 3-8 UNLV 3-8 San Jose St 3-9 San Jose St 2-10 Idaho 1-11 =============== @San Diego St 5-5-1 (Tie)

USC (60-19-2) Overall =================== 42-18-1__61g vs AQ 18-1-1___20g vs Non AQ 0-0_____0g vs D1aa 22-11___32g vs AQ road games 25-11-1__36g - all road games

Alabama (68-14) Overall ==================== 9-6____15g vs AQ 52-8___60g vs Non AQ 7-0____7g vs D1aa 3-2____5g vs AQ road games 7-3____10g all road games

These numbers aren't even close, it's time to man up SEC and play a big boy schedule.

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Notorious URB said...

In his defense USC has tried scheduling SEC schools and they all decline.

"We've talked to a lot, if not all, of the SEC schools about playing in the future," Lopes said. "I can't get into who said yes and who said no, but we have conversations with a lot of schools. Scheduling is a hard thing because sometimes you want to play each other but it doesn't work out from a timing standpoint."

USC is 4-0 vs. the SEC under coach Pete Carroll. The Trojans outscored Auburn and Arkansas 167-38 in those home-and-home matchups, including a 23-zip win at then-No. 6 Auburn in 2003 and a 50-14 bludgeoning of the eventual SEC West Division champion Razorbacks in 2006.

The SEC has since then stopped all talks with USC for scheduling OOC games.

"They are a football scheduler's dream," said Dave Brown, ESPN's Vice President, Programming & Acquisitions. "They are one of the rare schools that continues to play all of their nonconference games -- in most years -- against BCS teams ... If everybody did it that way, it would certainly be a lot easier for us to schedule games."

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Notorious URB said...

In his defense USC has tried scheduling SEC schools and they all decline.

"We've talked to a lot, if not all, of the SEC schools about playing in the future," Lopes said. "I can't get into who said yes and who said no, but we have conversations with a lot of schools. Scheduling is a hard thing because sometimes you want to play each other but it doesn't work out from a timing standpoint."

USC is 4-0 vs. the SEC under coach Pete Carroll. The Trojans outscored Auburn and Arkansas 167-38 in those home-and-home matchups, including a 23-zip win at then-No. 6 Auburn in 2003 and a 50-14 bludgeoning of the eventual SEC West Division champion Razorbacks in 2006.

The SEC has since then stopped all talks with USC for scheduling OOC games.

"They are a football scheduler's dream," said Dave Brown, ESPN's Vice President, Programming & Acquisitions. "They are one of the rare schools that continues to play all of their nonconference games -- in most years -- against BCS teams ... If everybody did it that way, it would certainly be a lot easier for us to schedule games."

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theFightingtide said...

There is much anger in this thread. So much in fact that 2 OSU fans have to chime in and try to take some joy in others beating SEC teams, when they themselves have only succeeded once, LAWL.