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Top 20 jobs in college football...

  • TP30 said...

    Georgia produces more talent but that means more talent for the surrounding states. They can only sign 25-28 a year and Richt, Donnan have had that state on lockdown for sometime. A few stars have gotten away but not many. Maybe their level of competition is a little overrated at the high school level? I can see JC's point but I think Georgias talent level has always been a tad overrated.

    I don't know... It seems every year top players leave that shouldn't.. I mean some really, really good/ game changing type players have left the state... Injuries hurt them, too.

    I personally think Alabama is the better job.. I mean it's Alabama and more appealing than Georgia. I know the argument against that though.

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  • Sorry USC isn't #2 bro. No home stadium. private school. wherever you have them you need to put Miami right next to them because the same reasons USC is that high, Miami has them too. JC is talking about overall programs ie (facilities, stadium, recruiting, location, money, national appeal)
    I am a Miami alum but here is my non biased list as of 2011 without considering allegations and ncaa investigations.
    1. Texas - money, own tv network, pick of Tx, fertile recruiting
    2. Alabama - Money, Saban, location ( recruiting and no pro teams)
    3. Florida - money, recent success, recruiting in FLA, facilities
    4. Ohio State - money, flagship of big ten, no compitition for OH recruits & ties to FLA) facilities
    5. LSU - La only big program, money, facilities
    6. FSU - FLA recruits, money, location (GA, AL & LA proximity), facilities, no pro teams
    7. Michigan - National appeal in recruiting & own Detroit, tradition, Facilities
    8. Oklahoma - talent from Tx always, facilities, tradition, Stoops
    9. Georgia - fertile recruiting ground, facilities, tradition, money
    10. Penn State - money, facilities, pa recruits, tradition
    11. Miami/USC - best programs in terms of recruiting hotbeds, pro pipelines, The most recognizable brands in football, LOCATION (South Beach, Hollywood)
    13. Oregon - Nike, Nike, Nike
    14. Auburn
    15. Notre Dame - tradition, money

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  • JC Shurburtt said...

    Three primary reasons.

    -Bad facilities -Bad home atmosphere -Loss of swagger

    I hope the swagger returns under Golden. Everything else would take care of itself.

    The home atmosphere is a very fair point. Unfortunately that will only change once we start winning (always will be this way for any Miami team)

    The football team is getting a facility built (very large locker room and players lounge, staff rooms, training center, etc) so our facilities should be very good soon.

    The swag will return when the wins do lol

    Cane_305

  • Lesticals said...

    I don't know... It seems every year top players leave that shouldn't.. I mean some really, really good/ game changing type players have left the state... Injuries hurt them, too.

    I personally think Alabama is the better job.. I mean it's Alabama and more appealing than Georgia. I know the argument against that though.

    Yeah, I'm not a homer. There's about 6-7 jobs in the SEC that are even. I was just wondering how JC felt about Georgia high school competition. Just seems like tons of guys from Georgia seem to never live up to their hype.

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  • what do people think of the UCLA job? Everything seems to be in place (resources, elite talent next door, great location, top school, etc) but they haven't done much.

    Cane_305

  • Bama #9 and barely better than AU?

    Alabama is coming off, arguably, its worst decade of football and still managed the following:
    National Championships: 1
    SEC Championships: 1
    SEC West Champions: 3
    BCS Bowl Games: 2
    Top 10 Finishes: 4
    Wins: 83
    Iron Bowl Wins: 3
    Iron Bowl Points: 211

    On the other hand AU just had, arguably, its best decade of football:
    National Championships: 1
    SEC Championships: 2
    SEC West Champions: 3
    BCS Bowl Games: 2
    Top 10 Finishes: 3
    Wins: 93
    Iron Bowl Wins: 7
    Iron Bowl Points: 187

    And Oklahoma #11?

    Georgia #8?

    FSU #3?

    I'm not even going to explain what is wrong with your list, it would take too long.

    hines011

  • How does Oklahoma, Notre Dame and Michigan not crack the top 10?

    I don't get the lure of USC anymore. Pete Carroll is gone...Idiot boy is a horrible coach! Shame on UCLA for not taking advantage of the situation at Southern Cal

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  • Y'all are asking toooooooooo many questions!

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  • Lesticals said...

    Y'all are asking toooooooooo many questions!

    WHY DO YOU HATE MY TEAM!!!!!

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  • Lesticals said...

    Y'all are asking toooooooooo many questions!

    How the hell does LSU rank?? I Kid, I kid

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  • Oryhara said...

    WHY DO YOU HATE MY TEAM!!!!!

    Who is your team?

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  • Meeechigan said...

    How the hell does LSU rank?? I Kid, I kid

    In a sad way, I'm glad y'all didn't get Les. His interviews and every time he talks is worth keeping. Hoke is going to do good things for you guys, great hire.

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  • Lesticals said...

    Who is your team?

    That was pure sarcasm.

    But I am a Husker fan. 15 is depressing but reasonable.

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  • Oryhara said...

    That was pure sarcasm.

    But I am a Husker fan. 15 is depressing but reasonable.

    Haha

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  • Cane_305 said...

    what do people think of the UCLA job? Everything seems to be in place (resources, elite talent next door, great location, top school, etc) but they haven't done much.

    Hate the uniforms. Stadium needs a huge overhaul. Plus I think their academic requirements are not in line with most schools that care about football if ya know what I mean. ( could be wrong)

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  • OK, gotcha. UGA is more 'set up" for success. UA is in a smaller, less talented producing state that competes with AU. Since UA leads the SEC in all time everythings, I guess their actual success counts for less than UGA's great set up. The nation's leading underachievers have a better "job" than one of the nation's highest overachievers and a universisally aknowledged blue-blood. UGA has accommplished litle more than BYU on the national stage. LLOOLL.

    AshleyUA2010

  • Lesticals said...

    In a sad way, I'm glad y'all didn't get Les. His interviews and every time he talks is worth keeping. Hoke is going to do good things for you guys, great hire.

    Ohh man....I wanted the Hatter BAD. If we would have gotten him right after Lloyd Carr, Michigan would have never fallen into the abyss like we did. I wasn't thrilled with Hoke when we were hearing Harbaugh then Leslie as done deals, but he has certainly impressed since he has taken over.

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  • Cane_305 said...

    what do people think of the UCLA job? Everything seems to be in place (resources, elite talent next door, great location, top school, etc) but they haven't done much.

    Could be a great program. Hire the right coach and you win the PAC-12 South in 2 years. Good coaches that would jump at UCLA.

    Mike Leach
    Charlie Strong
    June Jones
    Gus Malzahn
    Kirby Smart
    Manny Diaz
    Mark Stoops
    Paul Cryst

    hines011

  • TP30 said...

    Georgia produces more talent but that means more talent for the surrounding states. They can only sign 25-28 a year and Richt, Donnan have had that state on lockdown for sometime. A few stars have gotten away but not many. Maybe their level of competition is a little overrated at the high school level? I can see JC's point but I think Georgias talent level has always been a tad overrated.

    You make an interesting observation, but the NFL numbers tell you otherwise. Georgia has more players on rosters than most other states not named Florida, California or Texas. Now, the issue could be evaluation. I don't know.

    Georgia high school football is very good. The coaches there tend to run more conservative offenses (lots of wing t, wishbone, power I type stuff) than maybe coaches in Alabama or South Carolina, but it's good competition at nearly every level. Also, the greater Atlanta area continues to grow and with it has come a ton of talent production.

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  • AshleyUA2010 said...

    OK, gotcha. UGA is more 'set up" for success. UA is in a smaller, less talented producing state that competes with AU. Since UA leads the SEC in all time everythings, I guess their actual success counts for less than UGA's great set up. The nation's leading underachievers have a better "job" than one of the nation's highest overachievers and a universisally aknowledged blue-blood. UGA has accommplished litle more than BYU on the national stage. LLOOLL.

    Please up your paragraph use and argument skills if you plan on continuing posting on this site.

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  • AshleyUA2010 said...

    OK, gotcha. UGA is more 'set up" for success. UA is in a smaller, less talented producing state that competes with AU. Since UA leads the SEC in all time everythings, I guess their actual success counts for less than UGA's great set up. The nation's leading underachievers have a better "job" than one of the nation's highest overachievers and a universisally aknowledged blue-blood. UGA has accommplished litle more than BYU on the national stage. LLOOLL.

    I think you're taking his opinion to personal man. Sorry If I read the wrong. I think there's less pressure to win at UGA and they pay top dollar. That's the bottom line and that's why its a great job. Even if suck you bank.

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  • AshleyUA2010 said...

    OK, gotcha. UGA is more 'set up" for success. UA is in a smaller, less talented producing state that competes with AU. Since UA leads the SEC in all time everythings, I guess their actual success counts for less than UGA's great set up. The nation's leading underachievers have a better "job" than one of the nation's highest overachievers and a universisally aknowledged blue-blood. UGA has accommplished litle more than BYU on the national stage. LLOOLL.

    Again, you argument is better suited for "what are the best programs in the country" rather than what are the best jobs.

    You could make the argument that most of Alabama's success is due to great coaching by Wallace Wade, Frank Thomas, Bear Bryant, Gene Stallings and Nick Saban because the other coaches there have done very little and that the actual program isn't as set up for success so much as it's had the right leadership and at several distinct times made the right choices as far as the person to lead their program.

    You are splitting hairs between No. 6 and No. 9, but I Georgia is still the better job.

    This post was edited by JC Shurburtt on 6/8/2011 at 9:06 PM

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  • nm

    This post was edited by AshleyUA2010 on 6/8/2011 at 9:14 PM

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  • JC, please just tell Ashley that bama is number one so that she'll "understand."

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  • JC Shurburtt said...

    You make an interesting observation, but the NFL numbers tell you otherwise. Georgia has more players on rosters than most other states not named Florida, California or Texas. Now, the issue could be evaluation. I don't know.

    Georgia high school football is very good. The coaches there tend to run more conservative offenses (lots of wing t, wishbone, power I type stuff) than maybe coaches in Alabama or South Carolina, but it's good competition at nearly every level. Also, the greater Atlanta area continues to grow and with it has come a ton of talent production.

    True about NFL players from Georgia. I am not arguing with your list because it's splitting hairs when you're talking about the top 10 jobs in the country. But by god if Mike Shula can win 10 games at Alabama the sky is the limit for a good coach. Saban has shown with good coaching Alabama can be a top 1-10 job/ program at any time. Gene stallings did as well. Of course Bill Curry would be a good example of why it might not be a great job. Win 10 games a year and lose to Auburn you get a brick through your window and a pink slip. :)

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