The Blue Board

Yes, it is!!

1. Saban
2. Chris Petersen
3. Gary Patterson
4. John Chavis (See LSU's downward tracjectory in terms of their Season Record before Chavis joined the staff in 2009. Since his arrival, their record has improved each year. Funny that Les Miles has a background as an Offensive Line Coach and an Offensive Coordinator and LSU's offense looked like a Middle School Team in the BCS Championship Game)
5. Bobby Petrino- If this guy would ever realize that teams don't just get points for their Offense and Special Teams........DEFENSE actually matters if you can't stop anyone.......He could be in the top 2-3 once he understands that Defense matters
6. Chip Kelly- Will improve once he realizes that this is College Football and not the Olympic 4X100 Meter Relay Finals. I was amazed by one of his interviews in regards to his team lifting weights.....He said something to the effect of his being more concerned with speed.......Players should be running sprints instead of lifting so much. How'd that work for him against the SEC. Speed and Power/Strength is essential
7. Stoops- Big "Flop" Bob- Amazing how a couple of wins in the early 2000s buys a coach equity. If coaches are evaluated based on End of Season Rankings- Preseason Rankings...........I don't think he even makes the top 10 as his teams have underachieved each of the last 3 years. Keep him here for now due to "equity" of earlier success.

****Urban Meyer- Guy is burned out. I think he'll last a maximum of 3 seasons and be burned out again. He doesn't understand "delegation" and tries to do his job as well as that of his assistant coaches.

I do agree that he lost to both as he is sans defense. But I do believe that is changing for them. I just personally think he is a coach that has turned a solid program into a perennial top 10. Blotting did good things there but chip has turned it into a power on the field and recruiting. Not an Oregon fan just been impressed with what he has done.

must be a troll attempt.... if not, please explain how Miles is a better coach.

1) Saban is a better recruiter
2) Saban can actually coach the side of the ball he is most involved in (Bama is known for their defenses, while LSU is certainly not known for their offenses)
3) Saban just dominated Miles in the national title game

We could go on.

Serious? What does the championship game have to do with anything?

Ive heard plenty of Bama fans claim that the Tide have way better players than LSU also. Cant have it both ways, dude. Which is it? Better players, or better coach?

Does it really matter? LSU has won the last 2 out of 3 right?

Saban is a great coach, Miles is a great coach. In my opinion, Saban has the better players by far.

The last three gms:

Qb: Bama
Rb:Bama
Wr:LSU (except for Julio last yr)
Lb:Bama
Secondary: Tie
Oline:Bama
Dline:Bama
Special Tms:LSU

I dont think Mike K is the greatest bball coach either. Knight won all those gms while only having, 1 lottery pick in his career. Players matter big time.

Do coaches get any credit for players being better?

By your logic Bill Walsh and Chuck Knoll wered the worst coaches in the history of thed NFL.

How many recruiting classes have Bama had ranked outside the top 5 since Saban?

The guy kills Miles in recruiting. When Urban was here at UF it was the same thing. He had the perfect players for his schemes. It makes it alot easier to coach.

Im not dissing Saban. But, come on. Are you guys really gonna downplay your talent for the sake of this argument?

Whose defense was better this yr? Bama's or LSU's?

Whose offense was better?

As a whole, Bama's d was better.

Point blank: If Les Miles ever recruits a qb, every team should be scared.

Les has had QBs.

Both Lee and Jefferson were 4* guys. He just can't coach them or find anyone that can.

Chip has done well but his hire coincided with a massive influx of cash from Phil Knight and Oregon is under NCAA investigation for his recruiting.

Oregon has run roughshod over programs that can't prepare for the pace of their game in a week. This is why they often don't perform well in their first game or their bowl game because those coaches have more than a week to prepare. Plus all of the teams in the Pac are shifting their D's to stop the spread. Losing both Thomas and James will hurt this year. Their replacements are good but how good are their replacements who are key to the fast attack? DAT is a great speed back and receiver but can he take the pounding of a full season of what he's been doing plus 15-20 more carries a game?

Urban Meyer - 104-23 overall 17-6 @ BGSU 22-2 @ Utah 65-15 @ UF
Has turned around every program he's been too immediately.

Chris Peterson - 73-6 He can flat out coach. Has made every qb at Boise a star. Dinwiddie, Zabrasky, Kellen Moore. He does more with less talent than anyone

Les Miles 103-39 He's a true players coach. Love how he motivates his players.

Bob Stoops 139-34 Turned around a down OU program and made them a perennial national power. Comes from the cradle of coaching in Youngstown Ohio

Nick Saban - 146-54-1 There is no denying he is a great defensive mind, but without the oversigning advantage at Bama we are left to look at his resume at MSU where he was average.

Does subUrban know this rule or is he just ignoring it?

Did you see Meyer w/o Tebow, Hernandez, Percy, Spikes, Haden, Major Wright, Nelson, Cooper, Dunlap, Cunningham, the Pouncey twins?

They arent at OSU either.

Or could it have been that it was his first head coaching job (and it was at a program that was far from elite)? Alabama, and to a lesser extent LSU, are elite programs where it is easier to win period. Almost any coach will have a better record at Alabama or LSU than they would at MSU, that's just a fact. Still, Saban went 9-2 in his last year there. People have a skewed view of MSU because they have had recent success. That success is due solely to the fact that OSU and Michigan have been down. Let's see how many Big 10 titles they win the next few years with Meyer at OSU and Hoke getting Michigan going. My guess is 0.

As far as the pros, everyone, even the biggest Saban fans, admits that he is not suited to be a pro coach. Even Nick realizes that, which is why he left and won't go back. It isn't his style to be an NFL head coach. He is suited to the college game, and it isn't because of oversigning. As BetterOff said, you are all conveniently ignoring Les Miles' and Urban Meyer's histories of oversigning because it suits your arguement. IMO, the whole issue is overblown because a couple extra players a year isn't going to make such a gigantic difference that no other team can ever win. If it did, Alabama, LSU, etc. would never lose. OSU would never lose another game from here on out. But all those teams will lose from time to time because it doesn't make a damn difference.