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Trent Richardson....mediocre?

  • Man_A _War said...

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    yeh, i think the browns disagree.

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  • Actually I agree with RATT. I was completely against drafting a RB before 15 but with the new rookie cap it is a why not. You don't have to give them a huge bonus or a long contract. If this was two years ago there would be no way TR would be picked before 10. When you barely have to pay him you can pick guys that may not last very early.

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  • RATT said...

    What was AP's 40 time? He's still a better blocker, had less injury problems in college, and is a better catcher out of the backfield. If you want to call AP unreal and TR good because of .3 tenths of a second (maybe) in a 40 then I call that ridiculous.

    .3 would be a huge difference...but AP, although faster than Trent, is only about .1 faster. AP is one of the best out there. Though I think Trent may be as good of a PROSPECT, Im not ready to compare him to one of the best in the game right now. Trent is tailor made for the NFL though.

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  • kitemac said...

    Actually I agree with RATT. I was completely against drafting a RB before 15 but with the new rookie cap it is a why not. You don't have to give them a huge bonus or a long contract. If this was two years ago there would be no way TR would be picked before 10. When you barely have to pay him you can pick guys that may not last very early.

    That's not really true....see DMac, Ronnie Brown, Cadillac, etc. If a RB was truly elite, they were still drafted high.

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  • bigwilly64 said...

    That's not really true....see DMac, Ronnie Brown, Cadillac, etc. If a RB was truly elite, they were still drafted high.

    Which one has produced for the money they made?

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  • bigwilly64 said...

    .3 would be a huge difference...but AP, although faster than Trent, is only about .1 faster. AP is one of the best out there. Though I think Trent may be as good of a PROSPECT, Im not ready to compare him to one of the best in the game right now. Trent is tailor made for the NFL though.

    Oh he'll have to prove it for sure. I still think it's stupid to say that AP was an unreal prospect and TR only a good prospect when you look at their college careers coming in. How can ScarletnCream call AP an unreal prospect and not say that TR is only going to be good?

    TR is stronger, as fast or close to it while being heavier, a better blocker, less injury prone coming in, a better catcher and so on. It doesn't make sense to me.

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  • bigwilly64 said...

    That's not really true....see DMac, Ronnie Brown, Cadillac, etc. If a RB was truly elite, they were still drafted high.

    Those RB's were WAY before the new CBA and had wild ass signing bonuses along with 5-6 year guaranteed contracts. You don't have that anymore. If the new CBA wasn't in place I would wonder about taking a RB third overall. With the new one, I'm going to pick the best player I can for my team needs without blinking an eye. Your forgetting that Cam made 30 million dollars less than Bradford did and the guaranteed money is only three years and not 6.

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  • RATT said...

    Oh he'll have to prove it for sure. I still think it's stupid to say that AP was an unreal prospect and TR only a good prospect when you look at their college careers coming in. How can ScarletnCream call AP an unreal prospect and not say that TR is only going to be good?

    TR is stronger, as fast or close to it while being heavier, a better blocker, less injury prone coming in, a better catcher and so on. It doesn't make sense to me.

    I never said he was an unreal prospect. I said he is a better NFL back. Even with the injuries.

    IDWIW

  • kitemac said...

    Which one has produced for the money they made?

    None...just saying NFL teams showed they would draft elite talents at RB high even before the rookie cap.

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  • bigwilly64 said...

    None...just saying NFL teams showed they would draft elite talents at RB high even before the rookie cap.

    Yeah but it was a lot less of it lately.

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  • RATT said...

    Oh he'll have to prove it for sure. I still think it's stupid to say that AP was an unreal prospect and TR only a good prospect when you look at their college careers coming in. How can ScarletnCream call AP an unreal prospect and not say that TR is only going to be good?

    TR is stronger, as fast or close to it while being heavier, a better blocker, less injury prone coming in, a better catcher and so on. It doesn't make sense to me.

    No, I agree with you 100%. Trent has all the attributes to be an NFL stud for years.

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  • Trent is good, but comparing him to Adrian Peterson is silly in my opinion. Adrian Peterson is just on another level. Trent doesn't have AP's quicks or flat out speed. Adrian Peterson is a 6'1, 220 pound BURNER. Trent has good enough speed, but he doesn't have that kind of speed that Peterson has.

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  • supermario9 said...

    Trent is good, but comparing him to Adrian Peterson is silly in my opinion. Adrian Peterson is just on another level. Trent doesn't have AP's quicks or flat out speed. Adrian Peterson is a 6'1, 220 pound BURNER. Trent has good enough speed, but he doesn't have that kind of speed that Peterson has.

    Trent ran a high 4.3 and low 4.4 40 and is stronger than Peterson and that isn't even close. He blocks better, can take contact better, catch the ball better and so on coming out of college. He'll have to prove it but he's just as good a prospect if not better than AP was coming out of college. I would also love to see the agility number comparison between the two's combines.

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  • RATT said...

    Trent ran a high 4.3 and low 4.4 40 and is stronger than Peterson and that isn't even close. He blocks better, can take contact better, catch the ball better and so on coming out of college. He'll have to prove it but he's just as good a prospect if not better than AP was coming out of college. I would also love to see the agility number comparison between the two's combines.

    fair enough...Adrian Peterson sucks, Trent rules...happy?

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  • RATT said...

    Trent ran a high 4.3 and low 4.4 40 and is stronger than Peterson and that isn't even close. He blocks better, can take contact better, catch the ball better and so on coming out of college. He'll have to prove it but he's just as good a prospect if not better than AP was coming out of college. I would also love to see the agility number comparison between the two's combines.

    BS. Trent ran a high 4.3 and low 4.4 when and where? Not buying that.

    Sorry man, I know Trent is your guy, but give it a rest. Adrian Peterson is 6'1, 220 and strong as an ox and faster than every RB in the NFL save for maybe Jamaal Charles and Chris Johnson.

    When Trent runs for 296 yards in an NFL game as a rookie like AP did, get back to me.

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  • RATT said...

    Brown might just be the overall greatest athlete to ever live but he never had to play against competition like the NFL has today from top to bottom. He wouldn't have done what he did in the sixties if he played in today's game.

    Bo Jackson may have never been tackled in the 60's and i doubt he ever hit a 475 ft blast vs MLB pitching either .

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  • greensooner said...

    fair enough...Adrian Peterson sucks, Trent rules...happy?

    I'm not saying that at all. I think that if you compare the two coming out of college that it's not fair to say that AP was unreal and Trent was not just as good of a prospect, coming out of college.

    Trent is going to have to prove it but the two numbers at combines and college production makes it stupid to automatically assume that Trent is going to be an average RB while AP is unreal. I'm saying that a team has every reason to think that TR has the potential to be just as good.

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  • RATT said...

    I'm not saying that at all. I think that if you compare the two coming out of college that it's not fair to say that AP was unreal and Trent was not just as good of a prospect, coming out of college.

    Trent is going to have to prove it but the two numbers at combines and college production makes it stupid to automatically assume that Trent is going to be an average RB while AP is unreal. I'm saying that a team has every reason to think that TR has the potential to be just as good.

    I don't agree at all with Trent being average, I don't think he will make the impact Adrian did in his first year but that doesn't mean he won't still be a stud and a really good player. I think Trent will get a lot of touches this year to prove he's worth a 3rd round pick, especially with the injury situation in Cleveland throughout the season. He will be relied upon early so I'd say we will know what kind of player he will be halfway through the season.

    I respect Brown's opinion but I disagree. But I don't think he will be the league's next AP.

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  • greensooner said...

    I don't agree at all with Trent being average, I don't think he will make the impact Adrian did in his first year but that doesn't mean he won't still be a stud and a really good player. I think Trent will get a lot of touches this year to prove he's worth a 3rd round pick, especially with the injury situation in Cleveland throughout the season. He will be relied upon early so I'd say we will know what kind of player he will be halfway through the season.

    I respect Brown's opinion but I disagree. But I don't think he will be the league's next AP.

    Worth a 3rd Round pick? That has to be a typo. It wasn't you that I was responding to either. It was scarletncream that said TR would be no better than Ingram in the NFL. He said that TR would be good to average while AP is unreal. I said that it was very premature to say that based on the two coming out of college.

    TR will have to prove what he will be but he has skills that Ingram never did.

    This post was edited by RATT on 4/26/2012 at 8:26 PM

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  • RATT said...

    Worth a 3rd Round pick? That has to be a typo.

    yes typo...3rd overall pick

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  • RATT said...

    Worth a 3rd Round pick? That has to be a typo. It wasn't you that I was responding to either. It was scarletncream that said TR would be no better than Ingram in the NFL. He said that TR would be good to average while AP is unreal. I said that it was very premature to say that based on the two coming out of college.

    TR will have to prove what he will be but he has skills that Ingram never did.

    I said good not great. Stop putting words you think I said into your mouth.

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  • ScarletnCream said...

    I said good not great. Stop putting words you think I said into your mouth.

    Did you even read the quote that you responded to?

    NM I did put the "average" quote in your mouth.

    This post was edited by RATT on 4/26/2012 at 8:40 PM

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  • Would you please go to another site.
    You are by far the worst Michigan poster here.
    Thanks in advance.

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  • Mich&RedWingFan said...

    Would you please go to another site. You are by far the worst Michigan poster here. Thanks in advance.

    would you please stop following me around in every thread and go fvck yourself? You are by far the gayest Michigan poster here. Thanks in advance.

    supermario9

  • supermario9 said...

    would you please stop following me around in every thread and go fvck yourself? You are by far the gayest Michigan poster here. Thanks in advance.

    Would you please link the every thread comment? thanks in advance.

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