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US backs UN arms treaty.

  • rollingtide2004 said...

    [facepalm]

    It is not the US's job to police the world. banghead

    I agree. That's why great powers in alliance have traditionally had the most success.

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  • amrollZ71 said...

    Would you like the long drawn out answer or the short and condensed?

    Whichever you prefer

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  • rollingtide2004 said...

    [facepalm]

    It is not the US's job to police the world. banghead

    Thats whats weird, im fairly certain joetheogre is a liberal but by saying what he is saying he is wanting a more active(conservative) military

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  • amrollZ71 said...

    Would you like the long drawn out answer or the short and condensed?

    Long drawn out please answer please.

    xxmgobluexx

  • Give me a bit and ill reply with the info

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  • amrollZ71 said...

    Thats whats weird, im fairly certain joetheogre is a liberal but by saying what he is saying he is wanting a more active(conservative) military

    I actually think we should draw back our military expenditures. I am merely arguing in favor of multi-national bodies that prevent the emergence of rogue states and thus wars.

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  • joetheogre said...

    I actually think we should draw back our military expenditures. I am merely arguing in favor of multi-national bodies that prevent the emergence of rogue states and thus wars.

    That's what the nuclear bomb is for, to put those who eff up in their place. Seemed to work well with Japan, woudln't you agree?

    ROLL TIDE!

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  • amrollZ71 said...

    Give me a bit and ill reply with the info

    Thank you. Can I get the short answer also?

    xxmgobluexx

  • rollingtide2004 said...

    That's what the nuclear bomb is for, to put those who eff up in their place. Seemed to work well with Japan, woudln't you agree?

    It did, but I'm not sure that kind of brinkmanship is appropriate in the modern world.

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  • rollingtide2004 said...

    That's what the nuclear bomb is for, to put those who eff up in their place. Seemed to work well with Japan, woudln't you agree?

    Yes. It did work well when no one else had any.

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  • rollingtide2004 said...

    That's what the nuclear bomb is for, to put those who eff up in their place. Seemed to work well with Japan, woudln't you agree?

    Let's kill a few million people for the actions of what was probably a few thousand. Sounds like fun!

    hownowbrowncow

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Thank you. Can I get the short answer also?

    The short answer is taht I do not think it would have mattered what we would have done leading up to WWII.

    I am not aware of any factual data that could support it, but as everyone knows, some things just happen.

    Either way, here is a pretty dang good source IYAM.

    Note: There was only one little nod in that that says isolationism may have helped Hitler rise to power.

    Did Isolationism Cause World War II? by Phil Duffy

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig5/duffy-p3.html

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  • joetheogre said...

    I actually think we should draw back our military expenditures. I am merely arguing in favor of multi-national bodies that prevent the emergence of rogue states and thus wars.

    I mistook your words then.

    I do disagree that any multi-national body would be able to prevent war. MAYBE, MAYBE deter war a little but war finds a way to happen unfortunately.

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  • amrollZ71 said...

    I mistook your words then.

    I do disagree that any multi-national body would be able to prevent war. MAYBE, MAYBE deter war a little but war finds a way to happen unfortunately.

    Fortunately for us, I don't see another traditional war happening again anytime soon. Most of the great military powers are on our side. The only real threats are terrorism, insurgencies, and rouge nations like North Korea getting access to nuclear weapons.

    This post was edited by joetheogre on 11/8/2012 at 5:59 PM

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  • joetheogre said...

    Fortunately for us, I don't see another traditional war happening again anytime soon. Most of the great military powers are on our side. The only real threats are terrorism, insurgencies, and rouge nations like North Korea getting access to nuclear weapons.

    Also, globalization deters this as well

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  • elmn12 said...

    Let's kill a few million people for the actions of what was probably a few thousand. Sounds like fun!

    Before all is said and done I'm afraid we will have to drop several on China.

    ROLL TIDE!

    rollingtide2004

  • joetheogre said...

    Fortunately for us, I don't see another traditional war happening again anytime soon. Most of the great military powers are on our side. The only real threats are terrorism, insurgencies, and rouge nations like North Korea getting access to nuclear weapons.

    I agree completely with traditional wars not happening.

    Those days are long gone, if another major war did occur it would be something vastly different, much like the difference between WWI and all the previous wars. So much better technology and the vast battlefields would be replaced with close quarter combat, and bombing along with a few tanks would take the place of infantry in huge fields. JMO

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  • rollingtide2004 said...

    Before all is said and done I'm afraid we will have to drop several on China.

    No. We won't.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Also, globalization deters this as well

    Exactly.

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  • amrollZ71 said...

    I agree completely with traditional wars not happening.

    Those days are long gone, if another major war did occur it would be something vastly different, much like the difference between WWI and all the previous wars. So much better technology and the vast battlefields would be replaced with close quarter combat, and bombing along with a few tanks would take the place of infantry in huge fields. JMO

    Exactly. Maybe drone wars are possible. But large numbers of human combatants taking the field would about as outdated as cavalry charges in WWI

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  • rollingtide2004 said...

    Before all is said and done I'm afraid we will have to drop several on China.

    I really, really doubt it. Our relationship with China is improving and to declare war on them would have drastic economic consequences. Both countries just benefit too much from one another.

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  • joetheogre said...

    I really, really doubt it. Our relationship with China is improving and to declare war on them would have drastic economic consequences. Both countries just benefit too much from one another.

    Good way to get rid of national debt.

    ROLL TIDE!

    rollingtide2004

  • joetheogre said...

    Exactly. Maybe drone wars are possible. But large numbers of human combatants taking the field would about as outdated as cavalry charges in WWI

    Thats the dang truth

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  • rollingtide2004 said...

    Good way to get rid of national debt.

    Because starting a major worldwide nuclear war is a better option than owing some money?

    facepalm_msu

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by joetheogre on 11/8/2012 at 6:49 PM

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  • joetheogre said...

    Because starting a major worldwide nuclear war is a better option than owing some money?

    facepalm_msu

    Your sarcasm meter broken?

    ROLL TIDE!

    rollingtide2004

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