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Unions suck

  • Liberals and Labor Unions: proudly sending jobs overseas.

    That is all. Good day.

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    wps88 ●

  • Pretty sure foreign workers "willing" to work for $1 a day is why jobs are going overseas.

    shrug

    FTR: Not a fan of unions.

    This post was edited by sf2k4 on 11/16/2012 at 7:02 PM

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  • sf2k4 said...

    Pretty sure foreign workers "willing" to work for $1 a day is why jobs are going overseas.

    shrug

    FTR: Not a fan of unions.

    Very true. And all these liberals that demand higher wages and medical care don't like it at all. Of course they'll post about it while they enjoy their PS3's, Samsung TV's and Bangladesh cotton shirts straight from the brow sweat of a 10 year old.

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  • Conceptually and 50 years ago, unions were a good thing. Nowadays, just like with nearly everything else political that began with good intentions, it's become a corrupt, problematic strain on the country and its leaders generally make self-serving decisions rather than using common sense.

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  • wps88 said...

    Liberals and Labor Unions: proudly sending jobs overseas.

    That is all. Good day.

    Not mine bro. I.B.E.W. Local 17. Google it, you'll understand why "our" jobs will never be sent oversees.

    I get where u r coming from though

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    michagain

  • JC Shurburtt said...

    Conceptually and 50 years ago, unions were a good thing. Nowadays, just like with nearly everything else political that began with good intentions, it's become a corrupt, problematic strain on the country and its leaders generally make self-serving decisions rather than using common sense.

    I'll always support a workers right to organize. My father was a teamster for 40 years. He gave the union more hell than the company he worked for but maintained he'd rather be unionized than not.

    Take a look at the asburd increase of CEO pay over the past 30 years. Talk about corrupt and a problematic strain on our country. There it is.

    This post was edited by devidee on 11/16/2012 at 7:36 PM

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  • JC Shurburtt said...

    Conceptually and 50 years ago, unions were a good thing. Nowadays, just like with nearly everything else political that began with good intentions, it's become a corrupt, problematic strain on the country and its leaders generally make self-serving decisions rather than using common sense.

    Unions got too powerful (most general labor unions), they are past their prime IMO but still cause some unneeded issues. Ill only stick up for mine specifically as its not an easy trade and is extremely dangerous. I earn the good Cheddar and Benny's I get (overhead linemen).

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  • Take a look at the asburd increase of CEO pay over the past 30 years. Talk about corrupt and a problematic strain on our country. There it is.

    +1, well said

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  • My stepfather is a plant manager. The skunk he says about unions is unbelievable. Unions, for the most part, are nuts.

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by deltadawg82 on 11/16/2012 at 8:56 PM

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    wps88 ●

  • While I'm not generally a fan of unions, it's hard to blame them for very much... private sector unions and their influence are rapidly vanishing. It's the public sector ones that are doubling down.

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  • wps88 said...

    Liberals and Labor Unions: proudly sending jobs overseas.

    That is all. Good day.

    I would LOVE for you to explain to me how unions are "proudly sending jobs overseas."

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  • CMXI said...

    I would LOVE for you to explain to me how unions are "proudly sending jobs overseas."

    They're stupid and too extreme, forcing their bosses to close the company. This makes the head honchos move their companies overseas where people aren't little babies and whine about everything. There's a reason why the CEO is a CEO. There's a reason why you work in manual labor or on an assembly line. Respect them. Do your job. Shut up.

    (this isn't aimed at you)

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  • devidee said...

    I'll always support a workers right to organize. My father was a teamster for 40 years. He gave the union more hell than the company he worked for but maintained he'd rather be unionized than not.

    Take a look at the asburd increase of CEO pay over the past 30 years. Talk about corrupt and a problematic strain on our country. There it is.

    I'd like to see a comparative percentage of salary increases between CEO's and employees with degrees over a 40 year period. I'd bet they're pretty close.

    This post was edited by DrStache on 11/16/2012 at 8:15 PM

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  • CMXI said...

    I would LOVE for you to explain to me how unions are "proudly sending jobs overseas."

    Because they make ridiculous demands to the point many businesses just say f*** it, and relocate their operations overseas.

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  • TroyTide said...

    Because they make ridiculous demands to the point many businesses just say f*** it, and relocate their operations overseas.

    Thank you. This is what I was trying to say.

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  • wps88 said...

    Thank you. This is what I was trying to say.

    There used to be an employee on an assembly line that got paid 30 bucks an hour to install lug nuts on tires. I think they finally sub-contracted that job out to monkeys now.

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  • Mr.Stache said...

    I'd like to see a comparative percentage of salary increases between CEO's and employees with degrees over a 40 year period. I'd bet they're pretty close.

    I would bet you are wrong.
    Doesn't say who has degrees but if you aren't a CEO, then I would imagine it is not close.

    This post was edited by MichRedWingFan7 on 11/16/2012 at 8:39 PM

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  • michagain said...

    Not mine bro. I.B.E.W. Local 17. Google it, you'll understand why "our" jobs will never be sent oversees.

    I get where u r coming from though

    I belong to I.B.E.W. Local 136 out of Birmingham, Al.

    Bama RTR

  • Hmmm, how many CEOs are there and how many employees earning $30 an hour doing that job a trained monkey can do?

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  • VaHorn said...

    Hmmm, how many CEOs are there and how many employees earning $30 an hour doing that job a trained monkey can do?

    Are you trying to say that the average American worker is no better than a trained monkey?
    If so, you must be in favor of jobs going overseas.

    I do agree with JC though especially with business nowadays.

    This post was edited by MichRedWingFan7 on 11/16/2012 at 8:51 PM

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  • Just like most things Unions have their Pros and Cons

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  • Mr.Stache said...

    I'd like to see a comparative percentage of salary increases between CEO's and employees with degrees over a 40 year period. I'd bet they're pretty close.

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  • Any job that has gone overseas was going over anyways, union or not.

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  • Mr.Stache said...

    I'd like to see a comparative percentage of salary increases between CEO's and employees with degrees over a 40 year period. I'd bet they're pretty close.

    CEO Pay Grew 127 Times Faster Than Worker Pay Over Last 30 Years: Study

    Its good to be chief executive.

    www.huffingtonpost.com
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  • CMXI said...

    I would LOVE for you to explain to me how unions are "proudly sending jobs overseas."

    It's more complicated than this...

    I will give you a real world example for a company I know.

    Huffy Bicycles. Great American made company. Based in Ohio. manufacturing plants in Ohio, Missouri, Mississippi, California and Washington. Sub contracting plants all over. They also owned 5 other related companies.

    Walmart was obviously their largest customer. Walmart would not pay Huffy a price that was realistic. If Huffy were to lower the price of a bicycle to the level that Walmart would pay they would have to cut salaries...across the board by 45%. The cost to manufacture (or sub) a bicycle from china, ship the unit, impot taxes was 10% the cost of making that same unit in The U.S.

    So really we ALL are to blame.

    Walmart for demanding cheap products that are not made in the states
    The Union for demanding wages beyond what the market could hold
    The company for allowing the union to take more than they should have
    You, me, all of us for buying a bike from china because it was so much cheaper

    Huffy really had an easy decision. Move manufacturing overseas and save some jobs and the brand. Close the company. Welcome to 2012.

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