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Number of 5 star players per class:
2012: 25
2013: 10

2012: Lowest ranked player with a 95 rating: 147
2013: Lowest ranked player with a 95 rating: 65

Does this mean the 2012 class is that much better or does it mean you guys are grading the 2013 players using the same "prospect rating system" as the 2012 players and hence we can expect the 2013 players to mature/get better and likely have comparable numbers at this time next year?

We are all really high on Browne. I saw him in person at a camp last spring (Stanford Elite 11) and his junior film really checked out.

I think folks are going to unfairly label him a bit being from Jake Heaps' school (Heaps was a system quarterback- a good one- but a system guy), but if you pay close attention, he's much different.

Also, I am personally high on J.T. Barrett out of Texas, who Gerry Hamilton has been raving about for several months now. He could be an eventual five-star. He's No. 36 overall now.

Yeah, he's the top priority for SC as far as QB prospects are concerned in 2013. Troy Williams is another prospect as well. You guys have him ranked 107th.

Georgia is absolutely unreal in 2013, agree.

Special year in that state.

I did not mean to come off as attacking on that post. I only said stats, especially from that high school should not be taken as gospel. Also considering Shane Morris' WR and o-line I don't feel his stats are a fair way to judge him. Wolverine fans are obviously bias, but the kids got a legit case to be the top QB. His arm is powerful, knows how to put touch, can throw on the run, and his intangibles are all great attributes to have. He also wants to the best and makes that clear.

Barton, I think the Michigan fan attacked you unfairly, Browne and Morris both have legit cases to the "#1 QB" title.

Browne might be taller than Morris by an inch or two...but so what. Morris' arm strength blows his out of the water. Shane probably has the strongest arm in the entire nation.

As far as productivity goes, well one kid plays for a power-house program in his state that wins state titles like clockwork pumps out BCS talent year after year...the other kid plays for a small private prep school that has literally no talent, hasn't won a state title since the 1970s and was a complete joke and disaster of a football prorgam until Shane started playing there as a 9th grader and starting at QB for the varsity team as a frosh.

All I know is that when comparing the two, Shane Morris is a little bit more impressive to me. His body is more filled out and his arm is much stronger than Browne's. Shane has the best arm in america, JR or SR included.

I have seen them both throw and there is not a ton of difference RE: arm strength between the two. Maybe Morris has a little more, but it's not by much if at all.

I don't have a problem with where Morris is at. Being considered the #2 QB is a great in it's own right. One thing that is glaring in the article is the lack of any Midwest kids being discussed. Maybe there were some that moved up, but if

One thing to keep in mind is that the main factor in this update was the three major combines and there really weren't a whole lot of midwest guys that stood out at the combines. At least not more so than the other areas. With the more frequent updates of the list, there may be an update where almost all the movements are Florida kids, or California kids. If there is a stretch of midwest camps, there may be a strictly midwest update. We're just going to move guys as we see them.

I have seen them both throw as well. Shane's arm is definitely stronger. Ball pops off his arm better, his release is quicker and cleaner as well. Shane has that "lefty" release that is just oooh soo clean and smooth. Weird thing about lefties, the way they just throw the ball is just....really nice.

Anyways, I like Browne, but Shane's arm is DEFINITELY noticeably stronger. He has more velocity and he can push it further.

Strongest armed HS kid that I have ever seen was Mallett, hands down. Nobody else was even remotely CLOSE. Always lmfao'ed at Rivals for rating Jimmy Clawsoon higher than Mallett. I think you had a hand in that ranking BTW JC. Anyways, Stafford was probably next. Shane is right in that same realm as Stafford in terms of ability to cover every blade of grass with his arm- but like Stafford he is a mere mortal compared to Mallett in terms of the arm strength.

Jalin is very explosive no doubt....but so is Robert Foster. Foster is also a...you know...Wide Receiver. Jalin plays QB/RB and some D, he's never really played WR.

I love Jalin Marshall though, he is awesome, but if I had to pick between the two I'm taking Robert Foster every time. That is a AJ Green type WR. Maybe not quite at that level as a prospect...but man...he's close. He's really, really, really, really fricken good. I think he's easily a top 5 player in the country...kind of shocked he isn't rated that high to be honest.

And if you give me the Jalin = Percy thing...alright...I could see that....but to me an AJ Green type >x1,000 than a Percy type.

I'm just giving you a hard time.

Anyway, I agree with what you said there.

I don't think Clausen and Mallett were the same in college though. Mallett was definitely better down in Arkansas in my opinion. Clausen was a major disappointment considering the hype. This is a kid that was on the cover of Sports Illustrated as a JR and was billed as "the LeBron James" of football. Mallett tore apart the SEC in 2 years as a starter, and would have been a top 5 pick if not for some off the field questions. Ok, let's cut to the chase- the drug allegations- pretty much killed his draft stock.

And c'mon....Mallett is backing up maybe the greatest QB of all-time. Carolina wasn't sold on Jimmy and they drafted Cam Newtown, and Newton beat Jimmy out. Pretty different set of circumstances. No offense to Cam- I love the guy- but I think chances of beating out Cam is better than say...beating out Tom Brady.

Good call on the Stafford > Tebow > Mustain ranking.