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Was what Alabama did to Darius Philon right?

  • HowardRoarkAU said...

    You're asking for me to be banned but you want me to take the time to answer your question?

    You deserve to be banned for the way you have conducted yourself in this thread. Go back and read it. All you are doing is flaming, yelling, and using foul language. If you had any intention of actually having an intelligent football conversation you would have addressed the rest of my post.

    bamadvm

  • bamadvm said...

    You deserve to be banned for the way you have conducted yourself in this thread. Go back and read it. All you are doing is flaming, yelling, and using foul language. If you had any intention of actually having an intelligent football conversation you would have addressed the rest of my post.

    Sorry for my foul language. Will do better.

    HowardRoarkAU

  • Cuthbert xxii said...

    Are you honestly gonna sit there and try and tell me with a straight face that you "care" about what happens to a kid in South Alabama in regards to his school of choice? If you don't have a family member involved you don't "care".

    Actually yes. If the kid has busted his a$$ so that he can go to school somewhere (wether that be from athletics, or academics) and does everything asked of him, yet gets denied, then yes, I do care. It just goes against the general idea of the American dream. Doesn't matter if I know the kid or not.

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  • HowardRoarkAU said...

    Sorry for my foul language. Will do better.

    It's cool. Now please feel free to address the content of the thread.

    bamadvm

  • That's it. I'm locking this thread.

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    This post was edited by Freeze on 2/2/2012 at 10:20 PM

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  • spcbuzzard said...

    Actually yes. If the kid has busted his a$$ so that he can go to school somewhere (wether that be from athletics, or academics) and does everything asked of him, yet gets denied, then yes, I do care. It just goes against the general idea of the American dream. Doesn't matter if I know the kid or not.

    He went to school "somewhere".....not saying I agree with the practice, but some of you are acting like Saban robbed the kid of his future. He still had a scholly offer to Bama.

    Who was the kid that Stanford yanked the scholarship from (not a grayshirt offer, YANKED the scholly)? What about Michael Flint? Kid was an AU legacy, committed to AU early (first to commit in this class I think), yet AU dropped him because they said he was "fat". Why no mention of these other schools? It is good to be king.

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  • Cuthbert xxii said...

    Do you "care" about him more than homeless or abused kids? Do you think they are getting a fair shake in life? The answer is obviously no. The kid was not "denied" the opportunity to go to college. He was asked to delay his enrollment. He declined and chose to go elsewhere to pursue his education. We wished him well. There is nothing more to it than that. Quit buying what the media is selling. Care about the abused and homeless. You can actually impact their situation with your time and $.

    Actually the situation with the abused and homeless is harder to fix, This is much easier. 2nd If I want to concern myself with this I will.

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  • bigwilly64 said...

    He went to school "somewhere".....not saying I agree with the practice, but some of you are acting like Saban robbed the kid of his future. He still had a scholly offer to Bama.

    Who was the kid that Stanford yanked the scholarship from (not a grayshirt offer, YANKED the scholly)? What about Michael Flint? Kid was an AU legacy, committed to AU early (first to commit in this class I think), yet AU dropped him because they said he was "fat". Why no mention of these other schools? It is good to be king.

    hadn't heard a thing about them. If they are in fact the way you say, it's pretty low.

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  • bigwilly64 said...

    He went to school "somewhere".....not saying I agree with the practice, but some of you are acting like Saban robbed the kid of his future. He still had a scholly offer to Bama.

    Who was the kid that Stanford yanked the scholarship from (not a grayshirt offer, YANKED the scholly)? What about Michael Flint? Kid was an AU legacy, committed to AU early (first to commit in this class I think), yet AU dropped him because they said he was "fat". Why no mention of these other schools? It is good to be king.

    Less fat than perpetually injured and not a legacy. Also, he couldn't deliver Kwon Alexander.

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  • Freeze said...

    Less fat than perpetually injured and not a legacy. Also, he couldn't deliver Kwon Alexander.

    But he COMMITTED! Honor your word....

    Haha.

    bigwilly64

  • Cuthbert xxii said...

    Wrong. Again. It is much easier to fix. Quit hiding behind the morality your keyboard allows you to portray and get out there and help someone who actually needs it. Darius will be fine.

    Ok then get out there and fix it you self righteous hypocrite.

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  • bigwilly64 said...

    But he COMMITTED! Honor your word....

    Haha.

    Are you being for real?

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  • Cuthbert xxii said...

    I never complained about Darius. You shouldn't let your anger detract from your caring heart and ability to make a difference in a kid's life though.

    You and me, we come from different worlds. You like to laugh at me when I look at other girls. Sometimes you're crazy, makes me wonder why I'm such a baby cause the Dolphins made me cry.

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  • you must be one of those big-10+2 that don't know shat

    bamageorge

  • Cuthbert xxii said...

    I never complained about Darius. You shouldn't let your anger detract from your caring heart and ability to make a difference in a kid's life though.

    regardless you should go "make a difference in a kids life" since you are apparently Ghandi. As I said I wasn't coming here to stir the pot, I just wanted to know peoples honest feelings and I guess that I have found them, however f***** up they may be. Way to reflect on your fan base there bud.

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  • bamageorge said...

    you must be one of those big-10+2 that don't know shat

    This is the best first post I've ever seen. I'm completely baffled at who you are referring to and you made absolutely no point. I'm looking forward to you becoming a regular here.

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  • I was at work reading this whole thread and i wanted to pose a question since i have no idea. I know multiple times you bama fans have stated that the kids always end up getting the greyshirt and not just getting cut loose. I know its been mentioned that its almost exclusively offered because of injury. Have there been any times where the kid either got his greyshirt and then went on medical hardship or before he got the greyshirt went on hardship if thats even possible?

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  • bamadvm said...

    It's cool. Now please feel free to address the content of the thread.

    If you're stil looking for an answer to the number of scholarship players we've "signed" since 2008, it's already been answered by others here.

    This post was edited by HowardRoarkAU on 2/3/2012 at 12:00 AM

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  • Cuthbert xxii said...

    Are you honestly gonna sit there and try and tell me with a straight face that you "care" about what happens to a kid in South Alabama in regards to his school of choice? If you don't have a family member involved you don't "care".

    It is kind of sad watching that video. It's hard to care when its just a news story with text but once you see the kids emotions and hear about the tears in the hallway....well yes it does tend to strike a chord. It's pretty sad and i get that the practice is allowed by the NCAA but it would just be nice to see a couple of bama fans say yeah that was a pretty terrible thing. I just dont understand why it always has to be yeah thats a terrible thing but blah blah blah. It was sad period. Then again i get that too. Your fanbase is always under assault for the practice so there is no choice but to fight it out with your rivals and big 10 detractors. I just think everyone would be better off if we could just agree to the simple statement that it was a sad thing that a kid got hurt over a bad rule that someone took advantage of

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  • Cuthbert xxii said...

    Do you "care" about him more than homeless or abused kids? Do you think they are getting a fair shake in life? The answer is obviously no. The kid was not "denied" the opportunity to go to college. He was asked to delay his enrollment. He declined and chose to go elsewhere to pursue his education. We wished him well. There is nothing more to it than that. Quit buying what the media is selling. Care about the abused and homeless. You can actually impact their situation with your time and $.

    Why isn't it ok to "care" about more then just the extreme situations in life. Also i don't think he was denied anything. If the timeline one of your own posted is correct he was hoping they would honor his pledge after he told them he didnt want to greyshirt. Then when it got down to it and they said a week before he had to greyshirt or go it made him lose his faith in the program and make a decision he hated since he loved bama. I can't sit here and convey his emotions but watching him it looked like he lost faith in something he loved that he wanted to be a part of and it tore him up to not go there. He certainly could have gone there at a later enrollment date but why would you want to play for someone if you felt betrayed by the circumstances.

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  • 42-14 loser. Such a phoney.

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  • bamageorge said...

    you must be one of those big-10+2 that don't know shat

    Shhhh... they are in denial. Don't burst their bubble...

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  • HowardRoarkAU said...

    Or looking at it another way... Force more stringent numbers rules upon coaches and you do 2 things:

    1. Reduce the number of "fluff signees" - players you sign ONLY for the purpose of keeping them from your rivals.

    2. Force coaches to honor their commitments to recruits and make more public the instances when they don't.

    You can't just "eliminate scholarship limits", since the big state schools in the more talented states would have a complete monopoly on college football. If Texas/USC could sign as many Texas/California kids as wanted to sign, they'd never lose a football game. Ever.

    What is wrong with kids getting to go to the college of their choice if that college can offer them a scholarship?

    What's wrong with that is exactly what you say here:

    "You can't just "eliminate scholarship limits", since the big state schools in the more talented states would have a complete monopoly on college football. If Texas/USC could sign as many Texas/California kids as wanted to sign, they'd never lose a football game. Ever."

    What you are saying is that "my school and others like them would never be able to compete with those traditional powers where talented prospects would really like to attend so we need some governmental style regulation to allow us to compete on a forced basis"...

    That is what is causing situations like this and what costs many kids who may never have a chance at a college education otherwise an opportunity. Limiting scholarships to falsely level a playing field has a price and it is being borne by those who can afford it the least in a lot of situations.

    If your school (or the one that I pull for) can't attract athletes without inappropriate forced regulation then your school (or mine if that were the case) should play with other schools in similar situations; That is why there are different classes at the high school level - bigger schools play against bigger schools; In college, however, the farce of forced parity so that those schools who cannot attract top level talent consistently but want the revenue and attention associated with a winning football program creates a situation where kids get "managed" out of being able to play for the school of their choice.

    The Philon case is a sad but clear picture of the flaw of signing limits forced upon college football by the small schools who "wannabe" big time programs. Do I wish that had ended better.. absolutely. But the system is where the blame lies.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by dbamafan on 2/3/2012 at 6:19 AM

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  • HowardRoarkAU said...

    If you're stil looking for an answer to the number of scholarship players we've "signed" since 2008, it's already been answered by others here.

    No one has answered my questions. Nobody has explained how Auburn is serving young men better thanks Alabama even though the number of players that graduate and/or go to the NFL is nowhere near that of Alabama. Honestly I don't expect you to address this because you really don't care about these young men, you only pretend to when it fits your argument to flame Alabama.

    bamadvm

  • bamadvm said...

    No one has answered my questions. Nobody has explained how Auburn is serving young men better thanks Alabama even though the number of players that graduate and/or go to the NFL is nowhere near that of Alabama. Honestly I don't expect you to address this because you really don't care about these young men, you only pretend to when it fits your argument to flame Alabama.

    Please show me numbers to prove that Auburn sends "nowhere near" as many players to the NFL or has them graduate. Watch this:

    Nobody has explained to me why so many more Alabama players are confirmed Satanist than the rest of college football combined.

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