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Way OT: What is your opinion on Interplanetary Colonization

  • They already have the propulsion system & technology to travel to mars & beyond & have been doing it for decades. The "Black space Program" has been to places we can't even imagine. The U.S Government has had the technology since they reversed engineered what they found out in the N.M desert back in 1947.

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  • Look up Cold Fusion Element 15. They have had this technology for a very long time & it makes all other forms of energy obsolete. It is clean safe & costs nothing.

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  • SCirish843 said...

    The universe expands faster than the speed of light so any attempt to explore it will take some form of space/time manipulation...

    Well now this is just wrong. In no conceivable way is there any truth to this statement. Reminds me of the guy on the mainboard who thought that the solar winds were causing the flag that Armstrong and Aldrin put up to billow in the solar breeze. I mean-it's oddly endearing, but radically misinformed.

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  • davispb said...

    Well now this is just wrong. In no conceivable way is there any truth to this statement. Reminds me of the guy on the mainboard who thought that the solar winds were causing the flag that Armstrong and Aldrin put up to billow in the solar breeze. I mean-it's oddly endearing, but radically misinformed.

    Sooooo...you're saying in public that the universe does not expand faster than the speed of light? And then also questioning my intelligence without offering any evidence of your own? Care to add anything else?

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  • WTF are you people smoking?

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  • FL Buckeye said...

    WTF are you people smoking?

    Space weed.

    SCirish843

  • big john said...

    They already have the propulsion system & technology to travel to mars & beyond & have been doing it for decades. The "Black space Program" has been to places we can't even imagine. The U.S Government has had the technology since they reversed engineered what they found out in the N.M desert back in 1947.

    Please stop. That'sd be like saying we went back in time, gave an ape an IPhone and he re-engineered it. If we found alien technology we'd poop our pants for decades just looking at it.

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  • SCirish843 said...

    'Life' is expected to develop under any circumstances, I think the largest bottleneck being between single cell and multi cell organisms. I believe single cell life has at one time been all over the galaxy and could've easily died out already since our sun is so young in terms of stars . Once multi cell organisms form, which you guessed to be less than 1,000 ever, it's only a matter of time before they become intelligent life so there has to be a smaller second bottleneck we haven't hit yet. I can see manipulating space/time as being rather difficult for any specie of life.

    I'm intrigued by your initial sentence. The formation of life out of inorganic chemistry is THE question mankind faces. It's a philosophical and scientific misunderstanding that the Higs Bosom particle answers those level questions as some have intimated. If we found out how or simply that life originates from inorganic chemistry then even the most spiritual person would struggle to retain deistic faith.

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  • I forget where i saw this, but Stephen Hwking had a very interesting idea of constructing a series of massive mirrors positioned to amplify the sun's energy and collect it in one central point ( all in space ) and this energy could be used to fuel interplanetary, and inter galactic travel...

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  • Fuzz said...

    I forget where i saw this, but Stephen Hwking had a very interesting idea of constructing a series of massive mirrors positioned to amplify the sun's energy and collect it in one central point ( all in space ) and this energy could be used to fuel interplanetary, and inter galactic travel...

    Wiki Dyson Spheres. Will blow your mind. To think we may one day construct one blows my mind.

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  • The Higgs Boson would be nice to have but we've already concluded that quantumly speaking 'something from nothing' happens rather freqiently in space, how it gets mass(what the Higgs will prove) is tertiary. In terms of life and inorganic chemistry, I'm just not qualified to answer that. All I know is that single cell organisms, especially prokaryotic cells, 'live' in some of the harshest environments known to man and carry DNA. Whether it's RNA DNA and can reproduce I don't even know as I haven't taken chemistry in 3 years and I'm too lazy to look up.

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  • SCirish843 said...

    The Higgs Boson would be nice to have but we've already concluded that quantumly speaking 'something from nothing' happens rather freqiently in space, how it gets mass(what the Higgs will prove) is tertiary. In terms of life and inorganic chemistry, I'm just not qualified to answer that. All I know is that single cell organisms, especially prokaryotic cells, 'live' in some of the harshest environments known to man and carry DNA. Whether it's RNA DNA and can reproduce I don't even know as I haven't taken chemistry in 3 years and I'm too lazy to look up.

    I think you're obviously intelligent and learned on the topic but you made a declaration that is theorized to be inevitably true but cant be stood on with any kind of stability quite yet. What you got right for sure is that where we keep finding life on earth continues to suggest that space will have multitudes of homes for life available. That said, the "life" from inorganic Chemistry issue is the root of faith in many ways. At this stage we don't understand how it could possibly happen and the general reaction is god.

    I agreed with you or whoever earlier said that this was either THE great filter or at least one of two. By the very nature of the universe and the current understanding, "life" occurring is astoundingly rare. The Fermi Paradox more pertains to the discussion that whether the great filter between chemistry and life occurring has yielded only one instance of life ever, on Earth, or whether a second filter occurs later down the road there is an inconceivable aspect surrounding our lack of documentable evidence for extra-terrestrial life.

    Basically, from our current mathematical models, if they exist anywhere we should have met them and subsequently should be some kind of new member in a galactic neighborhood or civilizations. And, well, there are many who believe we have met them but most were either extremely rudimentary people painting on cave walls or that guy in the History Channel with the crazy hair.

    This post was edited by fsufsu on 12/17/2012 at 9:03 PM

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  • The crazy hair guy and Neil Tyson Degrasse have to be on salary by now. It was a bold statement, lost most bearings when we switched from a macro to a micro perspective. We see some much life but can't explain the building blocks, it's frustrating lol. Even on a planet so young, we've lost 99% of all living things that have lived, so I still think theres a chance of finding 'signs' of life in our own solar system let alone galaxy or universe...not still living or anything...but a bacteria somewhere that could've been dead billions of years.

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  • Bump a good thread

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  • fsufsu said...

    For us to be in our still infant years as a truly technological civilization the company SpaceX is doing remarkable things. The owner/founder/chief engineer Elon Musk was a major inspiration for Iron Man's main character.

    Musks' company Tesla is pretty impressive as well, the Tesla Model S is one hell of a car

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  • CLF4L said...

    Musks' company Tesla is pretty impressive as well, the Tesla Model S is one hell of a car

    Yeah, he also invented paypal and started Solarcity with his brother in law. Their Thanksgiving meal convos must be interesting.

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