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  • The more I see, the more I think nothing happens. There won't just be a vote where it takes a majority to decide what to do. All the commissioners have to agree unanimously on the format, or nothing changes.

    We either have a lot of posturing to keep fanbases happy at the moment, or this June 25th or 26th meeting could end with nothing changed.

    Either way, everyone is talking about it, which is what they want I guess.

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  • Agreed, but a 4 game playoff is great for the SEC. That means a one loss SEC team will more than likely get in. Once they are in, I feel like we would be able to take the rest of the conferences the vast majority of the time. Our biggest obstacle was overcoming a loss when other conference teams go undefeated. We would have a very difficult time jumping and undefeated team when we already lost. But with this format that won't matter. Please let this happen

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  • Here's a great article about how the B1G are morons on this topic

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--big-ten-surrenders-fight-for-on-campus-playoff-games-for-wrong-reasons.html;_ylt=AiGhlw5J2ZTUrTpisiszGng5nYcB

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  • Weedline said...

    Agreed, but a 4 game playoff is great for the SEC. That means a one loss SEC team will more than likely get in. Once they are in, I feel like we would be able to take the rest of the conferences the vast majority of the time. Our biggest obstacle was overcoming a loss when other conference teams go undefeated. We would have a very difficult time jumping and undefeated team when we already lost. But with this format that won't matter. Please let this happen

    Bad logic.

    If you got in with a 1 loss team to quell your worry then it would likely be the #1 seed (undefeated SEC champ) vs the 4 seed (1 loss SEC team) with the other conferences undefeated teams facing off.

    I still think 2 teams from the same conference shouldn't be allowed in the playoff.

    *If you didn't win your conference then it is entailed that you are not the best team in your conference. If you aren't the best team in your conference then you shouldn't be playing for the NC because you can't be the best in the nation but not the best in your conference.*

    That's all IMO of course.

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  • Weedline said...

    Agreed, but a 4 game playoff is great for the SEC. That means a one loss SEC team will more than likely get in. Once they are in, I feel like we would be able to take the rest of the conferences the vast majority of the time. Our biggest obstacle was overcoming a loss when other conference teams go undefeated. We would have a very difficult time jumping and undefeated team when we already lost. But with this format that won't matter. Please let this happen

    I completely agree with you. I try to not really look at conferences too much as I really just want what's best for football as a whole. Besides, the SEC will always be a strong conference based on location and the emphasis that is put on football in the region, but it's not like we will be "the" conference for good. 2006 would have seen 2 B1G teams, 2007 was a fluke that LSU got back in the mix, and last year was close to having 2 PAC12 teams as well. Add that with there having been a good number of years not too long ago that OU and Texas would have both been in the mix.

    The reactionary argument based on just last year isn't the way to go, as the same people making that argument will be wanting to change the system again, if and when it works against them. I just don't like a situation that tries to correct or change itself every 4 or 5 years. Hell, the BCS system tweeks itself every couple of years already based on formulas and the such.

    BetterOff

  • FL Buckeye said...

    Here's a great article about how the B1G are morons on this topic

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--big-ten-surrenders-fight-for-on-campus-playoff-games-for-wrong-reasons.html;_ylt=AiGhlw5J2ZTUrTpisiszGng5nYcB

    I agree, although when the ADs at most of the schools polled the players, they were also in favor of not playing the games at their homefield.

    Everyone won't be pleased with anything that's done, IMO.

    BetterOff

  • T-Noles813 said...

    Bad logic.

    If you got in with a 1 loss team to quell your worry then it would likely be the #1 seed (undefeated SEC champ) vs the 4 seed (1 loss SEC team) with the other conferences undefeated teams facing off.

    I still think 2 teams from the same conference shouldn't be allowed in the playoff.

    *If you didn't win your conference then it is entailed that you are not the best team in your conference. If you aren't the best team in your conference then you shouldn't be playing for the NC because you can't be the best in the nation but not the best in your conference.*

    That's all IMO of course.

    I don't think that matters. As long as one of the 4 is an SEC team then I really like our chances.

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  • BetterOff said...

    I agree, although when the ADs at most of the schools polled the players, they were also in favor of not playing the games at their homefield.

    Everyone won't be pleased with anything that's done, IMO.

    The reason I think playing semi's at home is in the B1G interst is, lets take OSU for example. We would have to sell out a road game for the B1G championship game. Then we would have to go on the road (twice) to two warm weather climates thousands of miles from home. Travel for fans and team is harder. Also, it would be in the B1G interests to force warm weather teams to come up north, instead of us northern teams always going south. We essentially play road games in every bowl we go to, thankfully we travel well so at least we aren't giving up that advantage.

    It's not the be all end all, but why give up the advantage you have for the sake of the Rose Bowl

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  • FL Buckeye said...

    The reason I think playing semi's at home is in the B1G interst is, lets take OSU for example. We would have to sell out a road game for the B1G championship game. Then we would have to go on the road (twice) to two warm weather climates thousands of miles from home. Travel for fans and team is harder. Also, it would be in the B1G interests to force warm weather teams to come up north, instead of us northern teams always going south. We essentially play road games in every bowl we go to, thankfully we travel well so at least we aren't giving up that advantage.

    It's not the be all end all, but why give up the advantage you have for the sake of the Rose Bowl

    I don't know. The B1G has a love affair with the Rose Bowl. The tradition is great, but I agree that it is doing a disservice to each individual school and local economies by doing so.

    BetterOff

  • *If you didn't win your conference then it is entailed that you are not the best team in your conference. If you aren't the best team in your conference then you shouldn't be playing for the NC because you can't be the best in the nation but not the best in your conference.*

    That's all IMO of course.

    If UCLA had beat Oregon last year, would you really call them the best team in the PAC-12?

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  • Rocket_Play said...

    If UCLA had beat Oregon last year, would you really call them the best team in the PAC-12?

    Last year was an aberration with USC being ineligible. You can argue that either USC or Oregon would have deserved a spot in the playoff last year had they played for the conference crown.

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  • Under Review said...

    Last year was an aberration with USC being ineligible. You can argue that either USC or Oregon would have deserved a spot in the playoff last year had they played for the conference crown.

    The truth is that there could and probably will be a year soon where the PAC 12 will have two teams that will deserve to be in the four team playoff. Take the four best teams. This conference champion crap is pathetic. The conferences that want it that way should just come out and say that their conferences suck.

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  • Grand Slam said...

    The truth is that there could and probably will be a year soon where the PAC 12 will have two teams that will deserve to be in the four team playoff. Take the four best teams. This conference champion crap is pathetic. The conferences that want it that way should just come out and say that their conferences suck.

    The only thing that bothers me about the top four teams getting in is who decides the top four teams?

    If a no biased way to actually pick the top four teams can be found I'm all for that format. Computers can't be trusted as they just spit out what a biased programmer has designed them to and a panel of "experts" is always going to have regional and other biases.

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  • the only thing that changes is we're arguing over who is fourth and who is fifth

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  • Like I said in other threads they need to get rid of preseason and coaches polls, because that gives some teams an unfair advantage at the end of the season. For example last year Oklahoma state had an uphill climb while Alabama and lsu did not not since they were already top 5 to start the season.

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  • Under Review said...

    The only thing that bothers me about the top four teams getting in is who decides the top four teams?

    If a no biased way to actually pick the top four teams can be found I'm all for that format. Computers can't be trusted as they just spit out what a biased programmer has designed them to and a panel of "experts" is always going to have regional and other biases.

    I agree. That will be the toughest part, but no matter what it's a better option than just having the conference champions.

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  • I just don't see the need for a neutral site semi-final. Higher seed team has home game, then neutral site championship ala Super Bowl. How much more fun would semi-finals be in Happy Valley, Gainesville, Austin, etc. It won't be nearly as electric in Dallas or Indy.

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  • FL Buckeye said...

    I just don't see the need for a neutral site semi-final. Higher seed team has home game, then neutral site championship ala Super Bowl. How much more fun would semi-finals be in Happy Valley, Gainesville, Austin, etc. It won't be nearly as electric in Dallas or Indy.

    Having been to neutral site games quite often, I can say that they are plenty electric. I think the argument for the round(s) leading up to the final game being at a home site should be as a reward to the higher ranked team and to the fans that have to shell out the money to follow their teams. I will travel, but for a lot of families that want to support their teams, traveling to Phoenix one week and to Miami a week later isn't that easy. Eventually when the luster wears off a "new" system, attendance will suffer.

    BetterOff

  • FL Buckeye said...

    the only thing that changes is we're arguing over who is fourth and who is fifth

    And what happens if the Top 5 teams are conference champs and only one loss each?

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  • brandon21mc said...

    And what happens if the Top 5 teams are conference champs and only one loss each?

    And there's a very good chance of that. Do you then take an undefeated mid-major or a one loss B1G champ?

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  • FL Buckeye said...

    And there's a very good chance of that. Do you then take an undefeated mid-major or a one loss B1G champ?

    This is where a formula would have to be involved. SOS, scores against like opponents, etc...

    If they do that the days of FCS lollipops is over for the SEC.

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