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What School Is Defensive Line U.?

  • abs_da_don said...

    FSU doesn't produce good DL in the NFL, sure they get drafted but they stink once they get to the NFL, end of story

    Wimbley, Boulware, and Dockett all stink I guess

    Its amazing how retarded you continue to be abs, why do you even try ?

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    What did he play? I dont remember him and the draft list I looked at had him as DT. Probably a typo.

    No you just can't read

    And clearly don't understand what a bust is, also what is the difference between a super bust and a normal bust ?

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    Hahaha, you are too much, man.

    Hilarious that for all the energy you waste bad mouthing USC QB's and such, and (yes some have been busts) it turns out that FSUe's DLinemen are 3x the busts that USC QB's have been in the NFL. 3 of the 5 - 1st round DLineman from FSUe since 1998 were busts.

    First, using the 15 yr parameter for DLine U, 8 of the 12 draft picks in rounds 1-3 from FSUe are/were busts since 1998.

    All-time for Florida St = 12 of their 17 draft picks in the first 3 rounds are busts.

    That's 71% BUSTS !! lol

    Since 1998 1st rounders Andre Wadsworth - giant bust Jamal Reynolds - super bust Travis Johnson - bust

    2nd rounders Everett Brown - big bust Larry Smith - bust Tony Bryant - medium bust

    3rd rounders Mario Henderson - bust Andre Fluellen - still active, but appears to be another bust

    A look at FSUe DLineman being 3x the bust USC QB's are

    FSU Defensive line 3 NFL 1st round busts since 98 #3 Overall = Andre Wardsworth (12 approx value) #10 Overall = Jamal Reynolds (2 av) #16 Overall = Travis Johnson (16 av)

    The 3 FSU DL combined ..... all no longer play in the NFL, started in only 68 NFL games, managed to play only 12 total years in the league, started for a total of only 5 seasons, and combined have an approx value rating of 30 = an embarrassing 10 AV per player. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    USC QB's (who are allegedly the bigger busts) 2 - 1st round picks / 1 - 7th round pick #5 Overall = Mark Sanchez (27 av) #10 Overall = Matt Leinart (12 av) #230 Overall = Matt Cassel (39 av)

    The 3 USC QB's combined all still play in the NFL, have started in 142 games and counting, have 19 years in the league so far, have started 10 of those 19 seasons, and have a combined approx value rating of 78 = 26 per player or almost 3x as much as your 3 Dline busts avg of 10 AV.

    roflmao

    I used Cassel as the 3rd bust (even though he's far from a bust considering nothing was expected from the 7th rounder who didn't even start at SC) just to try and match all those 1st round busts from Florida St.

    Keep trying to deflect it elsewhere, but the disease of NFL Busts saturates Florida St Dlinemen, and now the world (or at least anyone who reads tBB) will laugh harder with every post about the Noles Elite D and how all your Dline guys are studs and how big time they are or other recockulous claims you make.

    Hey, at least Florida State's DB's have done extremely well in the NFL. They are almost the best DB group out there, just a notch below USC and Ohio State.

    roflmao its amazing that you took the time to write all this out

    None of it is worth reading though

    At least no FSU DL will be on blooper reels for the rest of mans time on earth

    Also FSU sends DL to the NFL all the time, because they are beasts in college and that much can't be debated

    Most players wash out in the NFL, its an entirely different animal and most big fat dudes get lazy once paid

    But you can continue to blame this on FSU if it makes you feel better

    Facts are plenty of FSU DL have done well in the NFL, but when you send a lot almost every year... then some will wash out, its life..... ask LSU or Miami, they have had many DL busts too

    USCw on the other just can't produce a good QB to save its life, now they are so bad that they even suck while at USCw..... look at Barkley and his homofied season as proof.... preseason #1 my anus

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 3/16/2013 at 10:37 AM

    Play

    Mark Sanchez runs into his lineman's ASS a...

    can you watch this without LAUGHING???

    http://www.youtube.com/v/JxVa6V304f4
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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Wimbley, Boulware, and Dockett all stink I guess

    Its amazing how retarded you continue to be abs, why do you even try ?

    Chill dawg I didn't see they all were busts.

    R.I.P Sean Taylor.

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  • valenoles said...

    Lol at Mario Henderson being a DL


    Almost as funny as Nova calling Wimberley and Boulware DL. roflmao
    roflmao

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    Almost as funny as Nova calling Wimberley and Boulware DL. roflmao
    roflmao

    Lolz at wimberley, you don't even know their names

    Both played DE at FSU, that makes them DL that FSU produced

    What the NFL does with them is the NFL's business

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  • abs_da_don said...

    Chill dawg I didn't see they all were busts.

    See ?

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    See ?

    Say.

    R.I.P Sean Taylor.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    1- its amazing

    2- None of it is worth reading though

    3- At least no FSU DL will be on blooper reels for the rest of mans time on earth

    4- Also FSU sends DL to the NFL all the time, because they are beasts in college and that much can't be debated

    5- Most players wash out in the NFL, its an entirely different animal and most big fat dudes get lazy once paid

    6- But you can continue to blame this on FSU if it makes you feel better

    7- Facts are plenty of FSU DL have done well in the NFL, but when you send a lot almost every year... then some will wash out, its life..... ask LSU or Miami, they have had many DL busts too

    8- USCw on the other just can't produce a good QB to save its life

    9- preseason #1 my anus


    1 - Yes, amazing that 11 of 16 FSUe Dlinemen drafted in the first 3 rounds have busted.
    (70%) busts, in comparison USC has had only 6 of 17 bust (35%) w/ 2 active players on the fence

    2 - You should have used hilarious dancing midget with "didn't read."

    3 - I ain't gonna lie, the butt fumble is hilarious.

    4 - FSUe sends DLine all the time to the NFL huh? Currently FSUe has 4 active NFL DLinemen.
    (might have been impressed until I saw USC has 11 current NFL Dlinemen) 11 > 4 last time I checked.

    5 - Let me try this lame excuse routine real quick.....
    (Yeah, ya know Leinart and Sanchez get so much trim being rich NFL QB's
    that they barely have enough legs left to try and play hard or even care)

    6 - Not blaming FSUe, busts happen. At the WR and DB (you know the little fast guys),
    FSUe has done well in the NFL, but when it comes to the trenches-aka grown man football, FSUe
    is just a little boy.

    7 - Facts are plenty huh? FSUe has only 7 Dlinemen all-time that have started at least 4 yrs in the NFL.
    Probably USC's weakest position group in the NFL but they still have 11 - 4 year or more starters with
    4 other active players that might.

    8 - Ya, let me know when another school has 3 QB's starting in the NFL
    for 4 or 5 years in a row at the same time.

    9 - I thought you said your anus preferred 3 or 4 fingers, not just 1.

    10- roflmao

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  • You trolling is just weak

    1- you don't even know the names of the players you troll

    2- what you consider a bust is subjective and not fact

    3- this thread is about who produces DL, not who has the best NFL players

    4- you don't give credit to DE's at FSU who turn into outside LB's in the NFL

    5- lolz at you repping Sanchez and Leinart getting pussy too, that is why you are gay as shit my friend

    6- FSU has done well at WR ? says who ? are you really this misinformed ? Boldin... okay there is one, who is #2 ?

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 3/16/2013 at 4:34 PM

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said... but when it comes to the trenches-aka grown man football, FSUe is just a little boy.

    Must be why you went 7-5, lost to GT roflmao and had the gayest team in america in terms of failing hard after unwarranted hype

    Only school in history to start preseason #1 and finished unranked = USCw Trojans

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 3/16/2013 at 4:44 PM

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    You trolling is just weak

    1- you don't even know the names of the players you troll

    2- what you consider a bust is subjective and not fact

    3- this thread is about who produces DL, not who has the best NFL players

    4- you don't give credit to DE's at FSU who turn into outside LB's in the NFL

    5- lolz at you repping Sanchez and Leinart getting pussy too, that is why you are gay as shit my friend

    6- FSU has done well at WR ? says who ? are you really this misinformed ? Boldin... okay there is one, who is #2 ?


    1-Who cares how Wimbleywhatever spells his name, especially when you apparently have never heard
    of Fred Biletnikoff.

    2-Used same criteria for both FSUe and USC for comparison.
    But really what world do you live in where 3 Dlinemen all drafted in the top half of the 1st round (#16 overall or better) that can't hold a starting spot in the NFL for more than 3 years aren't considered busts.

    3-Right, and this thread didn't include Kamerion Wimpy because he, like Boulware was drafted to play LB and both did for the majority of their career. Let's pay attention especially if you gonna call me out on something = fail.

    4-Using same parameters as OP, except I'm looking at the NFL performance angle, instead of draft.

    5-Like I said lame excuse = lame excuse

    6- Biletnikoff, Boldin, Laveraneus Coles, Jessie Hester, and Javon Walker (until he signed his big FAgent deal)
    make a pretty solid group of NFL receivers. Only bust was Warrick.

    LMAO at how badly you and FSUe DLine fail in this thread
    Somebody from the NovaCamp needs to throw in the towel for you.

    NcaaAssassinG13


  • roflmao

    Just realized how badly your RB's have busted. Dunn was great, but 7 out of 12 FSUe RB's drafted
    in the first 3 rounds were busts in the NFL. That combined with 11 of 16 Dlinemen =
    18 of 28 busts between RB & DL.

    Dang,I think FSUe is officially Bust U.

    So many overrated over-hyped players out of Florida.

    NcaaAssassinG13

  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    1-Who cares how Wimbleywhatever spells his name, especially when you apparently have never heard of Fred Biletnikoff.

    6- Biletnikoff, Boldin, Laveraneus Coles, Jessie Hester, and Javon Walker (until he signed his big FAgent deal) make a pretty solid group of NFL receivers. Only bust was Warrick.

    Heard of Biletnikoff, that list is weak as shit and lolz at the only bust being Warrick

    Once again, you prove to contradict yourself and show you no zero about FSU history

    Here is a list of WR's who busted in the NFL, its a lot more than just Warrick you stupid bastard roflmao

    Chris Davis
    Willie Reid
    Snoop Minnis
    Ron Dugans
    Lawrence Dawsey
    Cro Thorpe
    PK Sam
    Talman Gardner
    EG Green
    Phil Riley
    Tamarick Vanover
    Kez McCorvey
    Omar Ellison
    Kevin Knox
    Shannon Baker
    Ron Lewis
    Weegie Jones

    Should I keep going into the 70's and 60's ?

    So 5 good ones in over 60 years and a lot more busts is doing well, but this similar stance can't be applied to the DL according to you.... when in fact the DL is more successful to most people for obvious reasons.... see how you contradict yourself ?

    I mean how stupid can you be man ?

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 3/16/2013 at 5:34 PM

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Heard of Biletnikoff, that list is weak as shit and lolz at the only bust being Warrick

    Once again, you prove to contradict yourself and show you no zero about FSU history

    Here is a list of WR's who busted in the NFL, its a lot more than just Warrick you stupid bastard

    Chris Davis Willie Reid Snoop Minnis Ron Dugans Lawrence Dawsey Cro Thorpe PK Sam Talman Gardner EG Green Phil Riley Tamarick Vanover Kez McCorvey Omar Ellison Kevin Knox Shannon Baker Ron Lewis Weegie Jones

    Should I keep going into the 70's and 60's ?

    So 5 good ones in over 60 years and a lot more busts is doing well, but this similar stance can't be applied to the DL according to you.... when in fact the DL is more successful to most people for obvious reasons.... see how you contradict yourself ?

    I mean how stupid can you be man ?

    So many busts now even you are pointing them out roflmao ]

    Actually only looked at 1st rd WR when I said that, but since you pointed it out
    looks like FSUe WR bust with the same regularity as DL and RB.

    I only count guys drafted in the first 3 rounds as busts though, so
    10 out of 15 WR from FSUe were busts.

    That's right on pace with your other busts
    11 out of 16 DL
    7 out of 12 RB's

    The difference is at least at WR you have produced 1 HOF, and 2 other guys who have
    done very well (Boldin & Coles) All 3 have more value in the NFL than any of your DLine
    with Dockett being the only one close to being at their level, even if you count
    LB's Boulware & Wimpy as DLine.

    Stupid is not realizing what a bust/ choke factory FSUe is. That's why FSUe is the Atlanta Braves
    of college football. roflmao

    NcaaAssassinG13

  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    So many busts now even you are pointing them out roflmao ]

    Actually only looked at 1st rd WR when I said that, but since you pointed it out looks like FSUe WR bust with the same regularity as DL and RB.

    I only count guys drafted in the first 3 rounds as busts though, so 10 out of 15 WR from FSUe were busts.

    That's right on pace with your other busts 11 out of 16 DL 7 out of 12 RB's

    The difference is at least at WR you have produced 1 HOF, and 2 other guys who have done very well (Boldin & Coles) All 3 have more value in the NFL than any of your DLine with Dockett being the only one close to being at their level, even if you count LB's Boulware & Wimpy as DLine.

    Stupid is not realizing what a bust/ choke factory FSUe is. That's why FSUe is the Atlanta Braves of college football. roflmao

    Lolz at Coles being better than Dockett

    The best part of all of this is it means nothing to the original argument

    The more NFL players you send, the more busts you have

    USCw has had a lot more busts recently because they send more players to the NFL than FSU

    Lots of your WR's suck too, so do many of your steroid infested LB's and DL and your secondary is king of faggotry in terms of NFL success... Robey being the next total homo you will send to the NFL

    Remember that wannbe Sean Taylor.... the female version was more like it, Taylor Mays ?

    Lendale White, Reggie Bush... all busts.... because again, the more you send the more that will fail

    The NFL is a different animal, and has nothing to do with a school sending players to the NFL

    Facts are FSU produces a shit ton of DL talent, therefor they quality for a DL U stigma

    What the players do in the NFL is not even apart of this discussion until you felt like trolling FSU.... and I feel you because if my team was as gay as USCw right now I'd be really pissed off too

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Lendale White, Reggie Bush... all busts....

    Facts are FSU produces a shit ton of DL talent, therefor they quality for a DL U stigma

    Hmmm, interesting. So based on your logic and what you said above about FSUe DLine, you are saying USC produces a shit ton of QB talent. I'm surprised you finally admit it, since you normally obsess about how terrible you claim them to be.

    Lulz at Bush being a bust

    This post was edited by NcaaAssassinG13 on 3/16/2013 at 7:05 PM

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    Hmmm, interesting. So based on your logic and what you said above about FSUe DLine, you are saying USC produces a shit ton of QB talent. I'm surprised you finally admit it, since you normally obsess about how terrible you claim them to be.

    Lulz at Bush being a bust

    Produce ? Yes, never said they didn't

    I just troll how all of USC QB's are totally gay and suck once in the NFL

    And that makes you mad, this you trolling FSU and failing miserably

    Lots of players bust in the NFL, doesn't mean a school doesn't produce NFL players

    Reggie Bush is on his 3rd team, for a pick that high... He isn't that good and is a bust in many eyes, your opinion doesn't change this fact

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    1 - Yes, amazing that 11 of 16 FSUe Dlinemen drafted in the first 3 rounds have busted.
    (70%) busts, in comparison USC has had only 6 of 17 bust (35%) w/ 2 active players on the fence

    2 - You should have used hilarious dancing midget with "didn't read."

    3 - I ain't gonna lie, the butt fumble is hilarious.

    4 - FSUe sends DLine all the time to the NFL huh? Currently FSUe has 4 active NFL DLinemen.
    (might have been impressed until I saw USC has 11 current NFL Dlinemen) 11 > 4 last time I checked.

    5 - Let me try this lame excuse routine real quick.....
    (Yeah, ya know Leinart and Sanchez get so much trim being rich NFL QB's
    that they barely have enough legs left to try and play hard or even care)

    6 - Not blaming FSUe, busts happen. At the WR and DB (you know the little fast guys),
    FSUe has done well in the NFL, but when it comes to the trenches-aka grown man football, FSUe
    is just a little boy.

    7 - Facts are plenty huh? FSUe has only 7 Dlinemen all-time that have started at least 4 yrs in the NFL.
    Probably USC's weakest position group in the NFL but they still have 11 - 4 year or more starters with
    4 other active players that might.

    8 - Ya, let me know when another school has 3 QB's starting in the NFL
    for 4 or 5 years in a row at the same time.

    9 - I thought you said your anus preferred 3 or 4 fingers, not just 1.

    10- roflmao

    Assassin strikes again.

    Dockett a beast though.

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