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What a stupid B$#%&!!!

  • VTSmitty said...

    Many different levels of PTSD. Some is very nominal and doesn't have a noticeable effect, some is extreme. What level should prohibit a person from owning a gun? Who evaluates a person and makes the determination?

    We are obviously talking about moderate to severe PTSD.

    Anyone can have PTSD, its not just limited to soldiers.

    A psychiatrist would obviously make the diagnosis and make the final evaluation.

    Nole of 16

  • wps88 said...

    Let's lower the drinking age to 18 then, too.

    They should. If a man or woman can be sent to war at 18, they should be able to drink

    Jeff4SC

  • Jeff4SC said...

    They should. If a man or woman can be sent to war at 18, they should be able to drink

    No man or woman can be sent to war unless they voluntarily join the military. So, I agree that anyone with a military ID should be able to drink at age 18.

    VTSmitty

  • Jeff4SC said...

    They should. If a man or woman can be sent to war at 18, they should be able to drink

    coffee

    I am all for Underage drinking. Thins the competition for the competitive jobs with people self imposing handicaps on themselves.

    If people are so god damn stupid to harm their bodies they can IMO. I have no problem with people doing hard drugs etc. As long as drug testing is added to welfare certification and DUIs= mandatory attempted manslaughter charge I am happy. Hopefully mothers of fetal alcohol/drug syndrome get charged with murder also.

    Also did I say we turn prisons into work camps not colleges and all the murderers should be killed not given life if there is enough evidence?

    America is making way to many mistakes in our justice system and overall becoming soft, in a couple dozen years we will be like Norway. Maniacs can kill 77 kids and only get a maximum of 24 years in prison.

    Nole of 16

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    There is that inherent risk with everyone.

    But the risk with those with mental illnesses is much greater.

    It's like giving out mortgage loans to those who can't afford to pay back the loans. There's going to be a risk giving out a loan to everyone, but lenders do credit checks to make sure that individuals can pay back their loans. We saw with the housing crisis what happens when the public is at the mercy of high-risk individuals.

    CliftonHokie09

  • Nole of 16 said...

    DUIs= mandatory attempted manslaughter charge I am happy. Hopefully mothers of fetal alcohol/drug syndrome get charged with murder also.

    Wat.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • Sorry, but even though I'm not a fan of Feinstein I have to agree here. Letting someone with a serious mental illness have a gun is asking for it, veteran or no.

    Although I'm curious to know how she defines "assault weapon".

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  • VTSmitty said...

    No man or woman can be sent to war unless they voluntarily join the military.

    Psst, buddy, the mechanism for the draft still exists. The Selective Service System is still in place.

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    CMXI

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    Wat.

    Driving under the influence = Voluntary Attempted Manslaughter
    Drinking/drugs while being pregnant = Voluntary Mutilation/Maiming + Voluntary Attempted manslaughter

    Nole of 16

  • Nole of 16 said...

    Driving under the influence = Voluntary Attempted Manslaughter Drinking/drugs while being pregnant = Voluntary Mutilation/Maiming + Voluntary Attempted manslaughter

    I can read. I was just expressing shock because that's retarded.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • Jeff4SC said...

    They should. If a man or woman can be sent to war at 18, they should be able to drink

    I agree... that's why I said that... man.

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  • The guy who killed Americas most famous sniper was
    A veteran suffering from PSTD.

    rms02d

  • Jeff4SC said...

    I really hope you are kidding.

    Any man/woman who goes to fight for this country should be able to have a gun.

    What a freaking joke

    If you have a documented mental disorder, for your protection and those in your community, you should NOT be allowed to carry a weapon.

    If they go and fight, and do not have PTSD, then they do have a right to bear arms.

    WRobins

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    I can read. I was just expressing shock because that's retarded.

    Tell me how voluntarily endangering someone's life/entire future and not getting charged with stiffer penalties is retarded?

    Tens of thousands of people are killed by drunk drivers.

    Are you telling me these people are involuntarily taking a drink and getting behind the wheel?

    Or are you telling me these people aren't endangering anyone unless they hit and kill/maim someone?
    To me it is akin to taking a gun and firing it into a crowd of people. There is a chance you will miss but you attempted it.

    Right now you get a fine of a couple grand for DUIs then you get right back to it.

    Maybe the fact my Aunt was hit in college by a drunk driver and she suffered severe mental and physical handicaps where she lost 100% of her memory (she needed to relearn how to talk and even go the restroom!) and needs a care taker 20 years later makes me little bias. Especially because the person who did it only got 5 years in prison. Then he got out and had another drunken crash, expectably thankfully he only killed himself. The guy ruined her entire future and life, every single person getting behind a wheel drunk is basically setting out to do the same.

    Drinking/doing drugs is just as bad IMO. You are basically destroying someones body and mind out of selfishness. If it wasn't a fetus you would get the death penalty/life in prison for trying to do something similar to a child/adult.

    Nole of 16

  • Nole of 16 said...

    Tell me how voluntarily endangering someone's life/entire future and not getting charged with stiffer penalties is retarded?

    Tens of thousands of people are killed by drunk drivers.

    Are you telling me these people are involuntarily taking a drink and getting behind the wheel?

    Or are you telling me these people aren't endangering anyone unless they hit and kill/maim someone? To me it is akin to taking a gun and firing it into a crowd of people. There is a chance you will miss but you attempted it.

    Right now you get a fine of a couple grand for DUIs then you get right back to it.

    Maybe the fact my Aunt was hit in college by a drunk driver and she suffered severe mental and physical handicaps where she lost 100% of her memory (she needed to relearn how to talk and even go the restroom!) and needs a care taker 20 years later makes me little bias. Especially because the person who did it only got 5 years in prison. Then he got out and had another drunken crash, expectably thankfully he only killed himself. The guy ruined her entire future and life, every single person getting behind a wheel drunk is basically setting out to do the same.

    Drinking/doing drugs is just as bad IMO. You are basically destroying someones body and mind out of selfishness. If it wasn't a fetus you would get the death penalty/life in prison for trying to do something similar to a child/adult.

    "Or are you telling me these people aren't endangering anyone unless they hit and kill/maim someone? To me it is akin to taking a gun and firing it into a crowd of people. There is a chance you will miss but you attempted it."

    You must not know what reckless endangerment is.

    "If it wasn't a fetus you would get the death penalty/life in prison for trying to do something similar to a child/adult."

    Obviously. Children/adults have legal rights. Fetuses don't. Hence, legal abortion. This isn't complicated.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • CMXI said...

    Psst, buddy, the mechanism for the draft still exists. The Selective Service System is still in place.

    Don't I feel stupid. Had no idea kids were currently being drafted and sent to war.

    VTSmitty

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    "Or are you telling me these people aren't endangering anyone unless they hit and kill/maim someone? To me it is akin to taking a gun and firing it into a crowd of people. There is a chance you will miss but you attempted it."

    You must not know what reckless endangerment is.

    "If it wasn't a fetus you would get the death penalty/life in prison for trying to do something similar to a child/adult."

    Obviously. Children/adults have legal rights. Fetuses don't. Hence, legal abortion. This isn't complicated.

    It is more than reckless endangerment IMO. It takes multiple decisions to get behind a wheel and drive that makes it more planned IMO and it should have harsher punishments for that.

    A aborted fetus never sees the life of day.
    A fetus exposed to drugs and alcohol is forced to live a entire life disfigured and with limited mental capacity.

    Nole of 16

  • My Brother just got an AR-15.. Thing is fun as hell to shoot. We shot it on the range the other day and man we had some fun.

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  • VTSmitty said...

    Don't I feel stupid. Had no idea kids were currently being drafted and sent to war.

    Not sure if sarcastic, but I wasn't saying anyone's currently being drafted and sent to war. You said "No man or woman can be sent to war unless they voluntarily join the military" and I provided an example of a method where a man could be sent to war without voluntarily joining the military.

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    CMXI

  • Nole of 16 said...

    It is more than reckless endangerment IMO.

    Like I said, apparently you don't know what reckless endangerment is.

    I'm done with this. Good luck making sure that every woman who has a glass of wine during pregnancy gets the chair.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • Lesticals said...

    My Brother just got an AR-15.. Thing is fun as hell to shoot. We shot it on the range the other day and man we had some fun.

    Was he required to take a mental stability test?

    xxmgobluexx

  • CliftonHokie09 said...

    But the risk with those with mental illnesses is much greater.

    It's like giving out mortgage loans to those who can't afford to pay back the loans. There's going to be a risk giving out a loan to everyone, but lenders do credit checks to make sure that individuals can pay back their loans. We saw with the housing crisis what happens when the public is at the mercy of high-risk individuals.

    That maybe. I still feel that you can't take their right to own a gun away if they have done nothing wrong. It doesn't sit right.

    xxmgobluexx

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    That maybe. I still feel that you can't take their right to own a gun away if they have done nothing wrong. It doesn't sit right.

    Where exactly do you draw the line?

    Would you give someone who has gone online and said they have thought about shooting up a school a gun? They haven't done anything wrong.

    Would you give someone who is a paranoid schizophrenic and is convinced the world is out to get them a gun? They also haven't done anything wrong.

    Not trying to be a dick, I just wanna know if you would draw the line on two examples of people who obviously aren't fit to carry a weapon.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    Where exactly do you draw the line?

    Would you give someone who has gone online and said they have thought about shooting up a school a gun? They haven't done anything wrong.

    Would you give someone who is a paranoid schizophrenic and is convinced the world is out to get them a gun? They also haven't done anything wrong.

    Not trying to be a dick, I just wanna know if you would draw the line on two examples of people who obviously aren't fit to carry a weapon.

    Have they committed a crime preventing them from owning a gun?

    What are the levels of PTSD? Are there levels? Which ones get there rights taken away?

    xxmgobluexx

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Have they committed a crime preventing them from owning a gun?

    What are the levels of PTSD? Are there levels? Which ones get there rights taken away?

    You ignored the question. I'm honestly just asking your opinion.

    Would you give someone who has gone online and said they have thought about shooting up a school a gun? They haven't done anything wrong.

    Would you give someone who is a paranoid schizophrenic and is convinced the world is out to get them a gun? They also haven't done anything wrong.

    Neither of those people have anything in their file beyond parking tickets. Should they be allowed to have weapons?

    ramssuperbowl99