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What about that rape cover up? No one is crying about that.

  • dpfenny said...

    Based on her story he was exposing her breast, etc against her will and then decided to make a phone call and leave.

    Is that what you, personally, think happened?

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  • Snake Plissken said...

    Those are facts or your opinion? Not that you care about the facts.

    Her statement and the police statement of the phone records have all been made public so those are not my opinions.

    dpfenny

  • gabe_c_ua said...

    Is that what you, personally, think happened?

    That was her claim and then what the phone records show. The only discrepancy was that she claimed he was interrupted by a call when the records show he made a call.

    dpfenny

  • So, what do you think happened?

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  • gabe_c_ua said...

    So, what do you think happened?

    Hard to say. I would guess he did actually touch her breast, etc. I have no idea why he would stop and make a phone call. Did he do it against her will and continue to after she told him to stop? I have no idea. They are in a dorm room most likely with others withing shooting distance, but who knows how a person would react in each situation. I would think if she was fighting much at all there would have been marks on her arms/wrist whatever. Either he forced himself on her then stopped and made a phone call or they were going at it and he stopped and made a phone call. Only Seeburg and the player know what really happened. I do know she was not raped nor did she claim she was raped...but the haters do not genuinely care about the girl or what happened.

    This post was edited by dpfenny on 1/17/2013 at 9:26 PM

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  • dpfenny said...

    That was her claim and then what the phone records show. The only discrepancy was that she claimed he was interrupted by a call when the records show he made a call.

    C'mon man. Based on the facts, was the player in the right or the wrong? And do you think the police should have questioned him sooner? And don't you think Kelly knew who the player was? If Kelly knew, wouldn't it be grounds for kicking the kid off the team?

    Stop being a ridiculous homer and open your eyes. The poor girl was already suffering from depression and then she was sexually assaulted, and then she got the courage to report it, and then she got threats according to her friend, and then... Nothing happened. End result? She killed herself.

    Go ahead and keep trying to justify it dumbass.

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  • VegasTide said...

    C'mon man. Based on the facts, was the player in the right or the wrong? And do you think the police should have questioned him sooner? And don't you think Kelly knew who the player was? If Kelly knew, wouldn't it be grounds for kicking the kid off the team?

    Stop being a ridiculous homer and open your eyes. The poor girl was already suffering from depression and then she was sexually assaulted, and then she got the courage to report it, and then she got threats according to her friend, and then... Nothing happened. End result? She killed herself.

    Go ahead and keep trying to justify it dumbass.

    How do you know if the player was right or wrong? NO WITNESSES. NO MARKS In a dorm room by themselves, the other two left the room. Tell us all how you know the player was in the wrong dumbass?

    dpfenny

  • Mr. Woodson starts a thread on this topic every week & it has been discussed & debated from every angle. Can we just let this one go? If there is a cover up it goes beyond ND, all the way up to the Indiana St. Police. So people who are so concerned with this matter & who truly want justice give them a buzz.

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  • dpfenny said...

    How do you know if the player was right or wrong? NO WITNESSES. NO MARKS In a dorm room by themselves, the other two left the room. Tell us all how you know the player was in the wrong dumbass?

    You're right. She probably killed herself for fun.

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  • gabe_c_ua said...

    You're right. She probably killed herself for fun.

    So according to you, the fact that she killed herself is proof that she was sexually assaulted?

    BTW, I have said multiple times I have no idea what happened. I do know she was not raped (nor did she claim she was raped) like the OP and others in this thread have claimed.

    dpfenny

  • It's not proof, but it's evidence. And you act like nothing can be done because there are "no witnesses and no marks."

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  • gabe_c_ua said...

    It's not proof, but it's evidence. And you act like nothing can be done because there are "no witnesses and no marks."

    How is her committing suicide evidence? What could have been done with NO evidence? What is your proof that she was sexually assaulted?

    dpfenny

  • dpfenny said...

    How is her committing suicide evidence? What could have been done with NO evidence? What is your proof that she was sexually assaulted?

    How is her committing suicide evidence?
    - It's quite clear that a sexual assault could be motivation for a suicide. In fact, there have been studies that indicate higher rates of suicide among those who have been sexually assaulted. That makes it evidence.

    What could have been done with NO evidence?
    - See my answer to your first question.

    What is your proof that she was sexually assaulted?
    - I don't have proof. No one does. I would just like to see a thorough investigation of a possible crime that contributed to a death.

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  • Generally, when it comes to sexual assault, you err on the side of the victim. Just sayin'.

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  • sf2k4 said...

    Generally, when it comes to sexual assault, you err on the side of the victim. Just sayin'.

    For real, I understand loving your school but damn sweeping a sexual assault case under the rug acting like nothing happened? Damn.

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  • ThaJoker said...

    For real, I understand loving your school but damn sweeping a sexual assault case under the rug acting like nothing happened? Damn.

    But then there was that whole Duke Lacrosse thing, where they jumped the gun &............

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  • big john said...

    But then there was that whole Duke Lacrosse thing, where they jumped the gun &............

    she was raped.

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  • CptAUmerica21 said...

    she was raped.

    It was investigated by the Indiana St. Police. They found nothing. A little back round here. The young lady who took her own life had mental problems. Also she accused two different young men of the same thing in high school. The police department investigated those accusations & found nothing. They also warned her that the next time it happened she would be bought up on charges of falsifying police reports. A little bit after the alleged incident with the ND player she was photographed at a tail gate before a game looking cheerful & not like a rape victim. Now don't get me wrong this is very sad & a young life ended far too early. The poor young lady had
    some major mental issues & I hope that she is at peace.

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  • big john said...

    It was investigated by the Indiana St. Police. They found nothing. A little back round here. The young lady who took her own life had mental problems. Also she accused two different young men of the same thing in high school. The police department investigated those accusations & found nothing. They also warned her that the next time it happened she would be bought up on charges of falsifying police reports. A little bit after the alleged incident with the ND player she was photographed at a tail gate before a game looking cheerful & not like a rape victim. Now don't get me wrong this is very sad & a young life ended far too early. The poor young lady had
    some major mental issues & I hope that she is at peace.

    She didn't look like a Rape victim bc she smiled? Dumbest thing I ever heard..... Have you ever seen somebody smile who just lost a loved one? Bc that happens all the time. Just bc people are sad doesn't mean they are 24/7 sad.

    Deuce22

  • dpfenny said...

    She never accused anyone of rape at least not at Notre Dame but don't let facts get in the way. Hate on!

    Hate on? 42-14. Hate on that.

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  • big john said...

    It was investigated by the Indiana St. Police. They found nothing. A little back round here. The young lady who took her own life had mental problems. Also she accused two different young men of the same thing in high school. The police department investigated those accusations & found nothing. They also warned her that the next time it happened she would be bought up on charges of falsifying police reports. A little bit after the alleged incident with the ND player she was photographed at a tail gate before a game looking cheerful & not like a rape victim. Now don't get me wrong this is very sad & a young life ended far too early. The poor young lady had some major mental issues & I hope that she is at peace.

    You insensitive asshole. Plenty of women and girls are raped and they never find any DNA evidence because the rapist clean up. My gf is one of those girls. You are covering for your school over the RAPE AND DIRECT SUICIDE of a mentally unstable woman due to her sexual assault. You are a sad piece of crap, please tone down your fandom and become a human being.

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  • sf2k4 said...

    Generally, when it comes to sexual assault, you err on the side of the victim. Just sayin'.

    So guilty until proven innocent? If she was lying, then who was the victim?

    dpfenny

  • CptAUmerica21 said...

    You insensitive asshole. Plenty of women and girls are raped and they never find any DNA evidence because the rapist clean up. My gf is one of those girls. You are covering for your school over the RAPE AND DIRECT SUICIDE of a mentally unstable woman due to her sexual assault. You are a sad piece of crap, please tone down your fandom and become a human being.

    ...and you continue to lie about the facts. It is obvious you care nothing about the girl, nor the facts and only that you can bash ND. IF you really cared you would have at least read the story of what happened instead of wasting time using the tragic incident to troll on a message board. You are the one here who is pathetic.

    dpfenny

  • Deuce22 said...

    She didn't look like a Rape victim bc she smiled? Dumbest thing I ever heard..... Have you ever seen somebody smile who just lost a loved one? Bc that happens all the time. Just bc people are sad doesn't mean they are 24/7 sad.

    SHE NEVER CLAIMED TO BE A RAPE VICTIM. Read the f'n report before you make any more ignorant comments.

    dpfenny

  • CPT You are a clown. You don't give one shit about that girl. You are just using this to bash ND. If you really care, why don't you start a petition online & demand that the Indiana St. Police do more. Your not getting anything done here on a message board. Or why don't you call them & ask them what they are doing about it. But you don't really care. For the record there is a difference between fondling & rape. There were two witnesses. One was her friend.

    This post was edited by big john on 1/18/2013 at 7:42 AM

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