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What about that rape cover up? No one is crying about that.

  • CptAUmerica21 said...

    she was raped.

    Didn't that turn out to be a false accusation?

    And IMO even if it's a sexual assault case, pretty screwed up that they swept it under the rug.

    Also, as a PSU fan, the whole no witnesses thing is pretty retarded to bring up in a sexual assault case. Why would somebody commit sexual assault if somebody else was there to see it? That defies logic.

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  • Deuce22 said...

    She didn't look like a Rape victim bc she smiled? Dumbest thing I ever heard..... Have you ever seen somebody smile who just lost a loved one? Bc that happens all the time. Just bc people are sad doesn't mean they are 24/7 sad.

    My cousin was sexually assaulted. She was basically a shut in for a year & a half. She is still messed up a whole 6 years later. Thought she got past it after she got married, nope! She just got divorced & is in therapy. She has & still is a shell of her former self. No way she was or would have been out & about whopping it up at a tailgate. I feel for this young girl because I know & have seen first hand the fall out. The shitty part is, is that no one on here does they just use it as a bash ND topic. Like I said if you all are so outraged take it up with the Indiana St, Police & get something done instead of just sitting at a computer or smart phone whining about it.

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  • big john said...

    It was investigated by the Indiana St. Police. They found nothing. A little back round here. The young lady who took her own life had mental problems. Also she accused two different young men of the same thing in high school. The police department investigated those accusations & found nothing. They also warned her that the next time it happened she would be bought up on charges of falsifying police reports. A little bit after the alleged incident with the ND player she was photographed at a tail gate before a game looking cheerful & not like a rape victim. Now don't get me wrong this is very sad & a young life ended far too early. The poor young lady had
    some major mental issues & I hope that she is at peace.

    roflmao
    How is a rape victim supposed to look?

    Many girls are too terrified to bring up charges, and I'm sure there are some who try to act like it never happened.

    Saying its not likely a girl was raped because she was seen smiling with friends at an event days after the fact is ridiculous.

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  • Texas Lion said...

    Didn't that turn out to be a false accusation?

    And IMO even if it's a sexual assault case, pretty screwed up that they swept it under the rug.

    Also, as a PSU fan, the whole no witnesses thing is pretty retarded to bring up in a sexual assault case. Why would somebody commit sexual assault if somebody else was there to see it? That defies logic.

    It would be very screwed up. & heads need to roll if that is the case. Fact is the Indiana St. Police investigated & found nothing. People don't really care about the poor girl. They just use it as a bash ND topic. I get it people hate ND. But to use this as fodder is kind of sick. If they care they should get in contact with The State Police in Indiana & push them to look into this further. But they could care less about that.

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  • dpfenny said...

    ...and you continue to lie about the facts. It is obvious you care nothing about the girl, nor the facts and only that you can bash ND. IF you really cared you would have at least read the story of what happened instead of wasting time using the tragic incident to troll on a message board. You are the one here who is pathetic.

    As a PSU fan I can tell you that telling people to read the stories and get their facts straight is a futile endeavor.

    That being said, even by your account he sexually assaulted a girl and there was no investigation.

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  • Texas Lion said...

    roflmaoHow is a rape victim supposed to look?

    Many girls are too terrified to bring up charges, and I'm sure there are some who try to act like it never happened.

    Saying its not likely a girl was raped because she was seen smiling with friends at an event days after the fact is ridiculous.

    I've seen it my man. First hand. & no , she was not smiling a week later. Still not a whole six years later. The only good thing is, that the person who did that to her is in jail for the next 20 years.

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  • Texas Lion said...

    As a PSU fan I can tell you that telling people to read the stories and get their facts straight is a futile endeavor.

    That being said, even by your account he sexually assaulted a girl and there was no investigation.

    There was an investigation. By campus police & the Indiana St. Police. There was an investigation.

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  • big john said...

    It would be very screwed up. & heads need to roll if that is the case. Fact is the Indiana St. Police investigated & found nothing. People don't really care about the poor girl. They just use it as a bash ND topic. I get it people hate ND. But to use this as fodder is kind of sick. If they care they should get in contact with The State Police in Indiana & push them to look into this further. But they could care less about that.

    How many days after the fact was the investigation conducted?

    Memories get hazy very quickly, and people can be persuaded one way or another in the time between the investigation and the incident.

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  • big john said...

    I've seen it my man. First hand. & no , she was not smiling a week later. Still not a whole six years later. The only good thing is, that the person who did that to her is in jail for the next 20 years.

    Where any rapist or person who legitimately commits sexual assault should be.

    Everybody deals with traumatic events differently. Just because the person you know reacted that way doesn't mean another victim will too.

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  • Texas Lion said...

    How many days after the fact was the investigation conducted?

    Memories get hazy very quickly, and people can be persuaded one way or another in the time between the investigation and the incident.

    Fact is, is that it was investigated. You are right though sometimes things can get blurry. No one really knows what happened there. The only people that do is the player in question & the young lady who is sadly no longer here.

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  • This post was edited by 92DT on 1/18/2013 at 8:06 AM

    What about that rape cover up? No one is crying about that.

    Also, why have none of the ESPN talking heads said a god dang word about this? Serious questions must be asked

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  • big john said...

    CPT You are a clown. You don't give one shit about that girl. You are just using this to bash ND. If you really care, why don't you start a petition online & demand that the Indiana St. Police do more. Your not getting anything done here on a message board. Or why don't you call them & ask them what they are doing about it. But you don't really care. For the record there is a difference between fondling & rape. There were two witnesses. One was her friend.

    Fondling is sexual assault I believe, and the two witnesses wouldn't be able to help much because they were gone from the room whenever the incident happened.

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  • Texas Lion said...

    Fondling is sexual assault I believe, and the two witnesses wouldn't be able to help much because they were gone from the room whenever the incident happened.

    Yes class A sexual assault. That is not rape. If it was we'd all be in jail. Unless you are a loser who never got past first base.

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  • ilovelamp51 said...

    So you are saying she is the type girl who attracts rapist ?

    Interesting..... coffee

    No. Just pointing out that there is a pattern. Think long & hard, if it was you or a friend or male relative accused of such a thing by someone who has accused multiple people of the same thing. There are women who do this kind of thing for attention.

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  • dpfenny said...

    SHE NEVER CLAIMED TO BE A RAPE VICTIM. Read the f'n report before you make any more ignorant comments.

    No you are ignorant. My post was a comment about another poster who said she did not look like a rape victim, not that she was raped. I never claimed her to be. Just responded to his post about it. Reread my post then come eat crow.

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  • big john said...

    My cousin was sexually assaulted. She was basically a shut in for a year & a half. She is still messed up a whole 6 years later. Thought she got past it after she got married, nope! She just got divorced & is in therapy. She has & still is a shell of her former self. No way she was or would have been out & about whopping it up at a tailgate. I feel for this young girl because I know & have seen first hand the fall out. The shitty part is, is that no one on here does they just use it as a bash ND topic. Like I said if you all are so outraged take it up with the Indiana St, Police & get something done instead of just sitting at a computer or smart phone whining about it.

    I'm truly sorry to hear that, but people behave differently. Just because she acted like that doesn't mean every person acts like that.

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  • Texas Lion said...

    As a PSU fan I can tell you that telling people to read the stories and get their facts straight is a futile endeavor.

    That being said, even by your account he sexually assaulted a girl and there was no investigation.

    He was accused of sexual assault and there was a poor investigation. However, based on the facts that have been released, there was really no evidence to go on. No marks, no witnesses. A girl and a guy in a dorm room. She accused him of forcibly touching her breast until he was interrupted by the phone and then he stopped. The phone records supported the guys story. Other than that they had nothing to go on.

    This post was edited by dpfenny on 1/18/2013 at 8:57 AM

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  • Deuce22 said...

    No you are ignorant. My post was a comment about another poster who said she did not look like a rape victim, not that she was raped. I never claimed her to be. Just responded to his post about it. Reread my post then come eat crow.

    I apologize. With the multiple trolls pretending outrage and claiming rape I assumed you were falling for their claims.

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  • Unfortunately, nobody truly knows what happened with Seeberg.

    However, there are multiple things that ND could do/have done about it. First of all, the police could have started on the case much sooner. IIRC, she committed suicide in the lull between when she submitted the complaint and when the police got around to asking questions about it.

    Second, ND and its fans could stop this misguided, often blatantly false, and low attempt to dishonor Seeberg. It's really sad.

    Third, the ND community could stop harrassing women who are raped. Based on what I've read, these women have been bullied for decades. A woman in 2011 supposedly had hundreds of text messages sent to her saying not to mess with ND football, and Seeberg got the same messages. ND supposedly threatened a woman in 1974 and already had a smear campaign ready for her as well. No matter what happened - how can that be an acceptable way to think and act for ND?

    Yes, I know what PSU did was awful (because apparently the best defense for ND fans is to attack the school I root for, rather than address potential concerns of their own), but whatever happened...I would hope that people would learn from it. There seems to be a culture at many schools of brushing this sort of thing under the rug, but thanks to the Seeberg case, ND is at the forefront.

    Reported sexual assault at Notre Dame campus leaves more questions than answers | National Catholic Reporter

    http://ncronline.org/news/accountability/reported-sexual-assault-notre-dame-campus-leaves-more-questions-answers

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  • Texas Lion said...

    How many days after the fact was the investigation conducted?

    Memories get hazy very quickly, and people can be persuaded one way or another in the time between the investigation and the incident.

    http://www.wsbt.com/news/wsbt-seeberg-case-timeline-122610,0,7387271.story

    Have to cut and paste the link.

    This post was edited by dpfenny on 1/18/2013 at 9:40 AM

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  • Bump for the rape cover up

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