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fsufsu said...
I mean that's been my opinion for years. I think America will be in a depression many people will not be able to believe in 5-7 years. Thought it was a pretty radical opinion though, not like.....mainstream.
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There was a good 60 minutes segment on the EU's financial woes two weeks ago. I highly recommend it.
Basically, because the countries in financial trouble don't own their own currency, they can't use economic tools like interest rates and currency valuation to manage their own problems. So guess who essentially owns them? Germany. Naturally that invokes WWII/Nazi memories, which incites the citizens to favor political candidates who want to pull out of the EU. Since the EU and most currencies are stabilized significantly by foreign debt, there's a lot of fear of the unknown with countries leaving the EU. Which brings the tricky situation of Germany using said debt from bailouts to control elections and incites even more populous turmoil.
Basically it's a giant mess and Germany, whether intentional or not, will own the bankrupt countries unless they revolt against the EU. Then who do we side with?
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PTCcock195 said...
France is even favoring essentially anti-EU candidates. There's an Economist article this week on it and the potential repercusssions but I haven't gotten around to reading it.
Germany is already, basically controlling the Greek government. But with elections coming up its getting into in unchartered waters whether or not they'll try to suspend those elections if unfavorable candidates look like they'll win.
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fsufsu said...
I mean that's been my opinion for years. I think America will be in a depression many people will not be able to believe in 5-7 years. Thought it was a pretty radical opinion though, not like.....mainstream.
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There was a good 60 minutes segment on the EU's financial woes two weeks ago. I highly recommend it.
Basically, because the countries in financial trouble don't own their own currency, they can't use economic tools like interest rates and currency valuation to manage their own problems. So guess who essentially owns them? Germany. Naturally that invokes WWII/Nazi memories, which incites the citizens to favor political candidates who want to pull out of the EU. Since the EU and most currencies are stabilized significantly by foreign debt, there's a lot of fear of the unknown with countries leaving the EU. Which brings the tricky situation of Germany using said debt from bailouts to control elections and incites even more populous turmoil.
Basically it's a giant mess and Germany, whether intentional or not, will own the bankrupt countries unless they revolt against the EU. Then who do we side with?
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Spain would get bailed out by the IMF or EU before going "bankrupt"
The value of the Euro would decrease relative to the dollar. (Remember a few years ago people said the EURO could replace the $ as reserve currency, HA) probably only short term, but imports to US would be cheaper, and exports more expensive to Europe.
Spain is a small economy relatively speaking. It would prolong the world recession and the Euro crisis, but it wouldn't hurt the US that much. The US economy's stregthis based on consumer spending, not exports to Spain.
Spain isn't going bankrupt.
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What effect would Spain going bankrupt have on U.S.?