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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    That holds a ton of water, but in the end it comes down to choices made by the individual.

    Personal experience shows that for me. My wife came from a family of 6. My wife and two other take care their life, the other 3 are lazy asses. My dad also had the same thing, 2 of his siblings and him were successful, the other 3 were wastes. In both situations nothing changed for any of the kids growing up.

    But 9/10 times, if the parent is actively teaching their kids that hard work pays off and other values like that, they are going to learn and use those skills in their adult lives.

    If the parent refuses to teach their kids those kinds of values, how can the kid ever learn them?

    Magic?

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  • blue2468 said...

    You never answered the other question.

    Did you have to learn those skills or did they just magically pop into your head?

    I learned some and taught myself others. My dad never once mad me go into a forrest and use and ax or maul, but we sawed down two large sweet gum trees, and my 2 buddies and I hauled them off and split them. Because i LEARNED MYSELF.

    My dad didn't tell me how to workout, my bddy and I learned by trial and error.

    Our first gym was a little bar with some weights in his grandfathers old hog house!! We purchased out first olympic bar by ourselfs. I do not want excuses.

    If people want something, then at some point in their lives THEY have the power to change it. It might not be as early as mine but they will have a point.

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  • GONIG BUCK said...

    Laziness? Or because healthy food (for the most part, for most kids) tastes like shit?

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    Reported for language.

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  • theFightingtide said...

    I learned some and taught myself others. My dad never once mad me go into a forrest and use and ax or maul, but we sawed down two large sweet gum trees, and my 2 buddies and I hauled them off and split them. Because i LEARNED MYSELF.

    My dad didn't tell me how to workout, my bddy and I learned by trial and error.

    Our first gym was a little bar with some weights in his grandfathers old hog house!! We purchased out first olympic bar by ourselfs. I do not want excuses.

    If people want something, then at some point in their lives THEY have the power to change it. It might not be as early as mine but they will have a point.

    So did your dad teach you ANYTHING at all?

    Did he ever push you to work hard or anything or was he just a dead beat?

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  • blue2468 said...

    So did your dad teach you ANYTHING at all?

    Did he ever push you to work hard or anything or was he just a dead beat?

    He taught me a lot about yard work and things such as that nature.

    He gave me a lot of things in life. I taught myself how to do others though.

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  • blue2468 said...

    But 9/10 times, if the parent is actively teaching their kids that hard work pays off and other values like that, they are going to learn and use those skills in their adult lives.

    If the parent refuses to teach their kids those kinds of values, how can the kid ever learn them?

    Magic?

    I understand what your saying, but in the end it comes down to choices made by the individual. Those taught values to work harder, are just that, taught. They make the choice on whether or not to follow that teaching.

    xxmgobluexx

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    I understand what your saying, but in the end it comes down to choices made by the individual. Those taught values to work harder, are just that, taught. They make the choice on whether or not to follow that teaching.

    Of course it does, and those choices made by that individual are usually based on the values put into them by their parents.

    Children don't just magically turn into lazy brats on their own, their parents are major contributors to it.

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  • theFightingtide said...

    Well, data may chow that, but I know people that have lost the weight they wanted to because of getting out and doing something.

    I know you know what you are talking about nutrition wise, and it carries a lot of weight, but my point is, you can always change the way things go for you.

    As I am sure you know, changing a diet and exercise isn't easy, but giving up because it is hard and the circumstances aren't your way is.

    I understand, I am proof. The reason I made exercise and nutrition my life is I was 200+ at 11. I am the only one of 7 in my family that is not insulin resistant. I watched my grandfather die due to diabetes and last time I saw my birth father he was over 400lbs. Luckily for me I was an athlete, so when I got to high school I got very seriously into sports and then taught my self how to eat to help reach my athletic goals. Parents are the decision-makers and primary developers of lifestyle behaviors; healthy eating habits and activity levels, you develop those at a very young age. Sure you can change, but it is a whole heck of a lot easier if you simply never develop those bad habits. The first rule of population health: prevention before treatment.

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  • blue2468 said...

    Of course it does, and those choices made by that individual are usually based on the values put into them by their parents.

    Children don't just magically turn into lazy brats on their own, their parents are major contributors to it.

    To a point, as I stated earlier, out of 12 people it was 50/50 on how they turned out. Great parent =/= great kids/future adults, just as crappy parents =/= crappy kids/crappy adults.

    You'll be surprised at how many do.

    xxmgobluexx

  • NoVaNoles said...

    Video games happened

    This is the only answer.

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    To a point, as I stated earlier, out of 12 people it was 50/50 on how they turned out. Great parent =/= great kids/future adults, just as crappy parents =/= crappy kids/crappy adults.

    You'll be surprised at how many do.

    To a very great point.

    To say otherwise is to suggest that parenting has no effect whatsoever on children and their future lives. While it may not be 100%, it is a crap tons more likely than the other way around.

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  • blue2468 said...

    To a very great point.

    To say otherwise is to suggest that parenting has no effect whatsoever on children and their future lives. While it may not be 100%, it is a crap tons more likely than the other way around.

    Honestly, I think we are in agreement.

    We both think that parenting is a key influence, and a very big one at that, right?

    We both think that in the end, the person's choice rules out good or bad, right?

    xxmgobluexx

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Honestly, I think we are in agreement.

    We both think that parenting is a key influence, and a very big one at that, right?

    We both think that in the end, the person's choice rules out good or bad, right?

    I do believe so.

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  • stoptothink said...

    I understand, I am proof. The reason I made exercise and nutrition my life is I was 200+ at 11. I am the only one of 7 in my family that is not insulin resistant. I watched my grandfather die due to diabetes and last time I saw my birth father he was over 400lbs. Luckily for me I was an athlete, so when I got to high school I got very seriously into sports and then taught my self how to eat to help reach my athletic goals. Parents are the decision-makers and primary developers of lifestyle behaviors; healthy eating habits and activity levels, you develop those at a very young age. Sure you can change, but it is a whole heck of a lot easier if you simply never develop those bad habits. The first rule of population health: prevention before treatment.

    congrats on all that good work man. No doubt there was a lot of times you wanted to quit, but you persevered.

    I think people are misunderstanding me in this thread. I think parenting does have an influence, but at some point you choose to continue down that path or stray away from it.

    i would say Parenting- 35-40%

    Self choice 60-65%

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  • Could always be due to the fact that home owners are worried about personal liability issues. A lawn service ensures itself and is responsible for any workman's comp issues. If a kid gets hurt cutting your grass, then you could have some serious liability. There has also been changes in the types of things parents feel safe about ther children doing. I was cutting grass by the second grade. I wouldn't let my daughter that is in 5th grade cut grass. Kids not cutting grass is not a sign of the apocolyps.

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  • GONIG BUCK said...

    Laziness? Or because healthy food (for the most part, for most kids) tastes like shit?

    Just do what my parents did. If your kids don't eat their veggies, just melt a ton of Cheez Whiz and pour it over them. Veggies become delicious in an instant.

    Seriously though, that is how my parents did it. I don't know if that's the reason why or my tastebuds just got more experienced but I eat veggies like they are going out of style now.

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  • Most kids cut their own grass and usually don't want to take the time or even want to mow someone elses lawn. I got an allowance every time I mowed the lawn, shoveled the snow, etc. and that was enough for me. Was it laziness? Sort of. But if you did your responsibility of helping out your family with your yard and other stuff, do kids really need to do anything for other people if they don't want to?

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  • They are cutting it and smoking it rockon

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  • I love cutting grass, we have a big yard when I was growing up, so I rode on the bush hog and cut grass. When I turned 18, I started drinking beer while cutting grass and now I'm on a Dixie chopper with a cup holder

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  • 1 An increase in laziness is not the primary cause for increase in obesity, our diet has changed rapidly over the past 50-60 years with a huge increase in simple carbohydrates and sugars.

    2 People aren't more lazy today, in fact I'd say most people work much longer hours as the work week has shifted from a norm of about 40 hours to anywhere from 60-100 hours for some people.

    3 People are cheap/less willing to trust kids cutting their lawn or even being on their property/around their home. Likewise, some parents are less likely to trust their kid running around and interacting with strangers

    4 Parents have found more valuable uses of their kids' time(music lessons, camps, foreign language instruction, etc.) That build human capital and will end up being far more valuable to them later in life than the 5 dollars they earn per lawn.

    5 How are manually labor and "good values" related at all?

    6 Standards of living have risen dramatically allowing families to afford things like video games without requiring them to work in order to gain the needed income in order to make such a purchase.

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  • Wendel Clark said...

    1 An increase in laziness is not the primary cause for increase in obesity, our diet has changed rapidly over the past 50-60 years with a huge increase in simple carbohydrates and sugars.

    2 People aren't more lazy today, in fact I'd say most people work much longer hours as the work week has shifted from a norm of about 40 hours to anywhere from 60-100 hours for some people.

    3 People are cheap/less willing to trust kids cutting their lawn or even being on their property/around their home. Likewise, some parents are less likely to trust their kid running around and interacting with strangers

    4 Parents have found more valuable uses of their kids' time(music lessons, camps, foreign language instruction, etc.) That build human capital and will end up being far more valuable to them later in life than the 5 dollars they earn per lawn.

    5 How are manually labor and "good values" related at all?

    6 Standards of living have risen dramatically allowing families to afford things like video games without requiring them to work in order to gain the needed income in order to make such a purchase.

    1.Yes an increase in laziness is indeed a cause for obesity. Primary, probably not. I have already addressed the food issue as being a large cause but people can change their diet.

    2. Just because someone works longer doesn't mean it is harder, so there really isn't all that much correlation between work length and difficulty. Could it be stressing to the brain? Most likely, that doesn't mean people could not squeeze in time for some exercise.

    3. You third point is mostly true, especially for a lot of areas. I know I was able to do that, but some areas it would not be safe to.

    4. I will agree that this is the case, especially in more urban areas. Not so much in rural areas.

    5. Working out in the nice hot sun shoveling or doing some sort of hard labor will no doubt teach perseverance and determination when things get tough. If you have ever done that, then you know what I mean.

    6. In other words people baby their kids by just giving them things?

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  • If people want something, then at some point in their lives THEY have the power to change it. It might not be as early as mine but they will have a point.

    You shouldn't speak in absolutes. Are there some people who have the power to change it? Of course. Are their some people who, because of circumstances beyond their control, are powerless to make meaningful changes? Yes.

    I've noticed a disturbing overraction to the perceived lack of "personal accountability" in our country. On the one hand, we, as a society, do need more personal accountability. The overrraction to it is really irritating, though. We have huge portions of the population who look down on people because of their life circumstances, with no knowledge or understanding of the factors that lead someone into those circumstnaces.

    Poverty begets more poverty. And poverty also leads to obesity, because healthy food is expensive and in most poor neighborhoods, doesn't even exist. We have thousands of "food deserts" in the poorest neighborhoods in our country, where the closest grocery store is more than 3 miles away. What are those people supposed to do to get healthy food?

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