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xxmgobluexx said...
That holds a ton of water, but in the end it comes down to choices made by the individual.
Personal experience shows that for me. My wife came from a family of 6. My wife and two other take care their life, the other 3 are lazy asses. My dad also had the same thing, 2 of his siblings and him were successful, the other 3 were wastes. In both situations nothing changed for any of the kids growing up.
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theFightingtide said...
I learned some and taught myself others. My dad never once mad me go into a forrest and use and ax or maul, but we sawed down two large sweet gum trees, and my 2 buddies and I hauled them off and split them. Because i LEARNED MYSELF.
My dad didn't tell me how to workout, my bddy and I learned by trial and error.
Our first gym was a little bar with some weights in his grandfathers old hog house!! We purchased out first olympic bar by ourselfs. I do not want excuses.
If people want something, then at some point in their lives THEY have the power to change it. It might not be as early as mine but they will have a point.
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blue2468 said...
But 9/10 times, if the parent is actively teaching their kids that hard work pays off and other values like that, they are going to learn and use those skills in their adult lives.
If the parent refuses to teach their kids those kinds of values, how can the kid ever learn them?
Magic?
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theFightingtide said...
Well, data may chow that, but I know people that have lost the weight they wanted to because of getting out and doing something.
I know you know what you are talking about nutrition wise, and it carries a lot of weight, but my point is, you can always change the way things go for you.
As I am sure you know, changing a diet and exercise isn't easy, but giving up because it is hard and the circumstances aren't your way is.
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stoptothink said...
I understand, I am proof. The reason I made exercise and nutrition my life is I was 200+ at 11. I am the only one of 7 in my family that is not insulin resistant. I watched my grandfather die due to diabetes and last time I saw my birth father he was over 400lbs. Luckily for me I was an athlete, so when I got to high school I got very seriously into sports and then taught my self how to eat to help reach my athletic goals. Parents are the decision-makers and primary developers of lifestyle behaviors; healthy eating habits and activity levels, you develop those at a very young age. Sure you can change, but it is a whole heck of a lot easier if you simply never develop those bad habits. The first rule of population health: prevention before treatment.
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Wendel Clark said...
1 An increase in laziness is not the primary cause for increase in obesity, our diet has changed rapidly over the past 50-60 years with a huge increase in simple carbohydrates and sugars.
2 People aren't more lazy today, in fact I'd say most people work much longer hours as the work week has shifted from a norm of about 40 hours to anywhere from 60-100 hours for some people.
3 People are cheap/less willing to trust kids cutting their lawn or even being on their property/around their home. Likewise, some parents are less likely to trust their kid running around and interacting with strangers
4 Parents have found more valuable uses of their kids' time(music lessons, camps, foreign language instruction, etc.) That build human capital and will end up being far more valuable to them later in life than the 5 dollars they earn per lawn.
5 How are manually labor and "good values" related at all?
6 Standards of living have risen dramatically allowing families to afford things like video games without requiring them to work in order to gain the needed income in order to make such a purchase.
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