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SpartanRocky said...
It also shows the importance of coaching in general, and that no program is truly "idiot proof".
Look at LSU under DiNardo, Bama post-Bryant, Texas under McWilliams/Mackovic, Oklahoma under Blake (plus Schnellenberger and Gibbs before that), Ohio State in their 1 year under Fickell, and quite frankly, the John Cooper era, Michigan under RichRod, Paul Hackett at USC . . . the list goes on and on.
All major schools that suffered major slumps.
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Some Michigan fans like to convince themselves of that, at the end of the day I'm darn sure if he was hired Michigan fans would go nuts (in happiness). He made a totally ridiculous and hypocritical comment about Michigan academics, but fans would get over it.
I think Michigan fans say he burned the bridges just to ease the sting of him turning us down. I dunno what the deal was 2 years ago, but there was some smoke he and our AD had a handshake agreement from after tOSU game he would be coach. Then he blew up, and we had no shot.
Harbaugh still idolizes Bo, and uses a lot of his phrases etc. for his teams. If he comes back to college if the timing is right he will be at Michigan. I think that ship has sailed though, he's an amazing coach I don't think he ever leaves the NFL.
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SpartanRocky said...
It also shows the importance of coaching in general, and that no program is truly "idiot proof".
Look at LSU under DiNardo, Bama post-Bryant, Texas under McWilliams/Mackovic, Oklahoma under Blake (plus Schnellenberger and Gibbs before that), Ohio State in their 1 year under Fickell, and quite frankly, the John Cooper era, Michigan under RichRod, Paul Hackett at USC . . . the list goes on and on.
All major schools that suffered major slumps.
This post was edited by MrWoodson on 4/18/2012 at 11:32 PM
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MrWoodson said...
Saban would be a disaster at ND. He could never run the ND program the way he runs the Alabama program. That's not a knock on Alabama, it's just a fact. But naming a specific coach who would be succesful at ND wasn't my point. My point was that ND needs to find the right fit. Michigan found that out the hard way when we hired RR. You can't just pluck a successful coach from one program and drop him into any other and expect the same results. It has to be the right fit.
Kelly was a very good fit for GVSU and Cincy but he's a bad fit for ND. Pat Fitzgerald is perfect for NW. Harbaugh was perfect for Stanford. Tressel was perfect for OSU. Holtz was perfect for ND. And Hoke is perfect for UM. Frankly, I think Alvarez or Barnett would have been perfect replacements for Holtz, but you went with Davie and then Willingham instead. IMO that's when you got off track. Urban Meyer might have worked out, but we'll never know because he went to UF and now OSU. And if you could ever get Pat Fitzgerald to leave NW (which I doubt, btw), I believe he would be perfect for ND. IMO Brian Kelly is simply a bad fit.
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Say what you want about Hoke he's got the job done. I know it's hard to admit, but ND hasn't seen that level of success in a long time on the field, or in recruiting.
You need to find a guy who loves ND, knows what it stands for and sells that well. Fitzgerald has been a great hire for NW, Dantonio for MSU. All these guys don't have the egos and are in it for the kids as opposed to themselves.
Kelly doesn't care about ND, he cares about his reputation and thought ND would be a good platform for him. ND is a sleeping giant, get someone in there who is blue collared loves the school and they will go to work IMO.
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CRgator1 said...
They're still relevant, imo.
I agree about the scheduling, man, they kill themselves repeatedly.
Its recruiting, which would be solved by a) A coach thats a household name, or b) joining a bcs conf.
Its gonna get tougher and tougher to pull kids if USC's rivalries pick up with Oregon/Stanford, likewise with Meyer vs Hoke.
Kids, nowadays, will more than likely follow the story, or in football sense, the media hype.
Recruiting nationally is gonna get tougher against bigger bcs confefences.
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Nah I’m thinking Skip Holtz.











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