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What is your opinion of obama and football

  • I don't really get what everyone is upset about ITT. He was asked a question. He answered. It's not like he called a press conference to voice his opinion, or is trying to implement any new rules for football. Any other president would've answered that question if it was asked as well. What should he have said?

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  • BlemBlam3 said...

    You said his concussions played no oart in his suicide I asked you to prove it You cant End of story Whether it did or not may never be known, but you made the declaritive ststement, not me Did Dave Duerson's condition have an imoact on his suicide? Go ahead, deny that Then you make another statement you cant back up That hus behavior started changing because he wss no longer in the spot light Complete BS That had nothing to do with who Jumior Seau was as a person You are basing your ststements on NOTHING Please stop

    And you can't prove they did either.

    Only hearsay from his family that he would have never done this.

    I've had enough of the rare suicide in sports being blamed on concussions.

    Some dudes just kill themselves.

    This post was edited by mriderblue12 on 1/28/2013 at 5:36 PM

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  • Head trauma lawsuits will kill the game as we know it....this will happen much sooner than you think.

    MarylandDawg

  • mriderblue12 said...

    And you can't prove they did either.

    Only hearsay from his family that he would have never done this.

    I've had enough of the rare suicide in sports being blamed on concussions.

    Some dudes just kill themselves.

    Blah Blah Blah
    You make statements that you cant back up with facts
    Not my problem
    I never said his brain issues were the reason he killed himself
    I simply said that there is a lot of reason to believe that it played at least a part
    Just as it did with Dave Duerson
    I notice in all our interaction, you have avoided his case
    I totally understand why
    You seem intractable, irascible and irritable
    I simply took issue with your definitive statement that brain damage issues had nothing to do with Junior Seau's suicide

    I have never declared it did

    I simply said that taking everything into consideration, there is enough evidence to believe it played at least a part

    You seem very invested in debunking this theory, despite the overwhelming agreement by the NFL, the players both present and past and the medical community that it is a problem that requires a cooperative and comprehensive effort to find a workable solution

    You sound like the know nothings who still deny global warning

    All from the comfort of your barcolounger

    Tough guy to the max, eh?

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by BlemBlam3 on 1/28/2013 at 8:01 PM

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  • BlemBlam3 said...

    Blah Blah Blah You make statements that you cant back up facts Not my problem I never said his brain issues were the reason he killed himself I simply said that there is a lot of reason to believe that it played at least a part Just as it did with Dave Duerson I notice in all our interaction, you have avoided his case I totally understand why You seem intractable, irascible and irritable I simply took issue with your definitive statement that brain damage issues had nothing to do with Junior Seau's suicide

    I have never declared it did

    I simply said that taking everything into consideration, there is enough evidence to believe it played at least a part

    You seem very invested in debunking this theory, despite the overwhelming agreement by the NFL, the players both present and past and the medical community that it is a problem that requires a cooperative and comprehensive effort to find a workable solution

    You sound like the know nothings who still deny global warning

    All from the comfirt of your barcolounger

    Tough guy to the max, eh?

    Calm down brah.

    I am Canadian, no one here denies Global Warming.

    I'm not that tough, just sick of the scape goating.

    Sick of football being ruined because "concussions cause suicides" without any definitive proof.

    Why does Duersons case prove anything? Just because he thought concussions made him crazy doesn't make it true. Suicide happens, it happens at a greater rate in general population than in football. So it's unlikely concussions are a killer like you and other MSM make it seem.

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  • MarylandDawg said...

    Head trauma lawsuits will kill the game as we know it....this will happen much sooner than you think.

    Which is very stupid. Like I've said, all of these athletes know the consequences.

    Jeff4SC

  • Jeff4SC said...

    Which is very stupid. Like I've said, all of these athletes know the consequences.

    Exactly.

    No one forced these dudes to play, they should live with the consequences of their own actions, just like every single other person on earth.

    Also these guys get compensated quite handsomely for their jobs. Danger pay IMO.

    Educate players, let them decide if they want to play or not. Let's not ruin football, because the players aren't the ones asking for changes, it seems like it's the MSM which is bullshit.

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  • mriderblue12 said...

    Calm down brah.

    I am Canadian, no one here denies Global Warming.

    I'm not that tough, just sick of the scape goating.

    Sick of football being ruined because "concussions cause suicides" without any definitive proof.

    Why does Duersons case prove anything? Just because he thought concussions made him crazy doesn't make it true. Suicide happens, it happens at a greater rate in general population than in football. So it's unlikely concussions are a killer like you and other MSM make it seem.

    Suicide is a side issue
    It is the severe brain damage and brain diseases that are the issue at the heart of this
    Did you ever watch John Mackey at the end if his life?
    Have you seen Ex Eagles Fullback Kevin Turner try to speak with ALS which NFL players are getting at a rate of 8 times the rate if the non foitball playing public?
    You keep saying the players know the risks and are handsomely compensated
    What about youth football players? High School Players? College Players?
    And yes, they are aware of the risks now
    But they werent 20 years ago, or even 10

    Did you see the comments by Ravens Safety Bernard Pollarc when he said he is just waiting for someone to die on the field

    I dont know what the answer is, but I sure as hell know there is a problem, and I am telling you that the current players are worried as hell

    You know, the guys that actually have skin in the game

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  • BlemBlam3 said...

    Suicide is a side issue It is the severe brain damage and brain diseases that are the issue at the heart of this Did you ever watch John Mackey at the end if his life? Have you seen Ex Eagles Fullback Kevin Turner try to speak with ALS which NFL players are getting at a rate of 8 times the rate if the non foitball playing public? You keep saying the players know the risks and are handsomely compensated What about youth football players? High School Players? College Players? And yes, they are aware of the risks now But they werent 20 years ago, or even 10

    Did you see the comments by Ravens Safety Bernard Pollarc when he said he is just waiting for someone to die on the field

    I dont know what the answer is, but I sure as hell know there is a problem, and I am telling you that the current players are worried as hell

    You know, the guys that actually have skin in the game

    Sounds like a personal problem if you ask me. Pro athletes know the consequences. As far as high school and college players, their parents know the risks as well. If they don't agree with them, then do not let them play. Pretty simple concept.

    Jeff4SC

  • I will put it this way. I don't feel guilty watching football ad Obama thinks I should feel. I like watching NASCAR ESP for the wrecks and fights. I like seeing people get knocked put on mma. You sissies can kiss my ass

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  • Jeff4SC said...

    Which is very stupid. Like I've said, all of these athletes know the consequences.

    The argument will be the NFL knew it and didn't tell them.

    The recent rule changes for player safety was probably suggested by lawyers

    MarylandDawg

  • mriderblue12 said...

    Exactly.

    No one forced these dudes to play, they should live with the consequences of their own actions, just like every single other person on earth.

    Also these guys get compensated quite handsomely for their jobs. Danger pay IMO.

    Educate players, let them decide if they want to play or not. Let's not ruin football, because the players aren't the ones asking for changes, it seems like it's the MSM which is bullshit.

    If they have brain damage , this would be a workers comp issue that the players will win.

    MarylandDawg

  • pcgamecock2001 said...

    I will put it this way. I don't feel guilty watching football ad Obama thinks I should feel. I like watching NASCAR ESP for the wrecks and fights. I like seeing people get knocked put on mma. You sissies can kiss my ass

    Wow
    What a badass

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  • Jeff4SC said...

    Sounds like a personal problem if you ask me. Pro athletes know the consequences. As far as high school and college players, their parents know the risks as well. If they don't agree with them, then do not let them play. Pretty simple concept.

    I dont disagree, i was just countering the compensation argument.
    If you read my first post on this thread, you will notice that I stuck to the original topic, which was in regards to President Obama joining the debate about player safety.
    I tried to add context and made almost zero comment on the actual issue itself

    But when I see a guy who with zero facts make a blanket ststement that he knows for a fact that Junior Seau's SEVERE brain injuries had nothing to do with his suicide, then yes, I guess it becomes a little personal given what I know about the concern people close to him had shown over his increasingly erratic behavior

    And the guy still refuses to give an inch, which I find troubling

    But I an not the one who brought suicide into the discussion, and my contention is that suicide is not even the real issue

    The real problem is the brain diseases and conditions and I am glad that it is being taken seriously by all of the involved parties

    The fact a bunch of pretend tough guys, who's only investment in the whole deal is the time they spend in front of their TV's gorging their fat asses on Pork Crackllns and swilling cheap beer is of little consequence to my overall outlook

    The last paragraph was in jest, mostly, so dont all you tough guys get your cammie briefs in a bunch

    This post was edited by BlemBlam3 on 1/29/2013 at 7:26 AM

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  • Obama wants to concern himself with an issue of American heroes committing suicide? He should look at our veterans and figure out what can be done to help. But he probably will never address that while in office because its a political quagmire.

    Black Shipley

  • BlemBlam3 said...

    I dont disagree, i was just countering the compensation argument. If you read my first post on this thread, you will notice that I stuck to the original topic, which was in regards to President Obama joining the debate about player safety. I tried to add context and made almost zero comment on the actual issue itself

    But when I see a guy who with zero facts make a blanket ststement that he knows for a fact that Junior Seau's SEVERE brain injuries had nothing to do with his suicide, then yes, I guess it becomes a little personal given what I know about the concern people close to him had shown over his increasingly erratuc behavior

    And the guy still refuses to give an inch, which I find troubling

    But I an not the one who brought suicide into the discussion, and my contention is that suicide is not even the real issue

    This is a real problem is the brain diseases and I am glad that it is being taken seriously by all of the involved parties

    The fact a bunch of pretend tough guys, who's only investment in the whole deal is the time they spend in front of their TV's gorging their fat asses on Pork Crackllns and swilling cheap beer is of little consequence in my overall outlook

    The last paragraph was in jest, mostly, so dont all you tough guys get your cammie briefs in a bunch

    Who is pretending to be a tough guy? Not sure why you keep bringing this up.

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  • Black Shipley said...

    Obama wants to concern himself with an issue of American heroes committing suicide? He should look at our veterans and figure out what can be done to help. But he probably will never address that while in office because its a political quagmire.

    He can comment about the safety issues in football, and still tackle the issue of the alarming suicide rate in our Armed Forces

    Do you have some evidence that he isn't concerned?

    I know for a fact that the government is concerned because my daughter in law just got hired as a Psychologist at Ft Campbell to work with Soldiers and their families, with suicide prevention being at the top of her job description. And I know how many places she could have chosen from and I know there are a lot of jobs like hers openng up all over the country.
    Literally hundreds of openings to fill from what she told me

    I sure dont get why people think a President can't multi- task

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  • BlemBlam3 said...

    You mean like Dave Duerson's family? He shot himself in the heart so they could study his brain And how the fack do you know why Junior Seau shot himself? Either state your proof or STFU

    There is plenty of evidence based on alarming changes in his behavior over the last few years to at least make it safe to assume it was a contributing factor

    Anyone who ever met or knew Junior has a hard time believing it didnt play a part, because he was as upbeat and positive as a person could be and that act was completely out of character for him

    Just for him to put his family through that was just not in his makeup, especially his mother and father and children

    And if you think I am talking out if my ass, my niece is married to a member of his extended family and something drastically changed in the man over the last five years or so and plenty of people noticed and were worried about it

    I will breathlessly wait on pins and needles for you to post your proof

    clap +1. and my condolences.

    CoachGomez214

  • Jeff4SC said...

    Sounds like a personal problem if you ask me. Pro athletes know the consequences. As far as high school and college players, their parents know the risks as well. If they don't agree with them, then do not let them play. Pretty simple concept.

    Yup

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  • mriderblue12 said...

    Who is pretending to be a tough guy? Not sure why you keep bringing this up.

    And I dont see why you have never given me any real information to prove your statement that support your claim that Junior Seau's brain injuries played no part in his suicide

    Best you have done is " Hey, dudes kil themselves sometimes"

    I just see the stance that some of you are taking, basically " No one forces them to play, so fack em" as phony macho bluster

    Kind of like Chicken Hawk Politicians who never served, and who's kids will never serve, advocating military intervention at the drop of a hat
    No skin in the game

    While the people who do have skin in the game, are very concerned about the issue

    I simply believe there is a midlle ground, and a lot of steps that can be taken to make the game safer, and to still make it enjoyable for us fans, fun to play for the people who play it for fun, and less risky over the long term for those fortunate enough to have football as a career option

    I do not see it as an either or situation

    I am being reasonable IMO and in return, get accused of hating football

    Madness

    On a sidenote, I would be interested in learning what the CFL is doing on the matter

    This post was edited by BlemBlam3 on 1/29/2013 at 8:25 AM

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Yup

    Oh isht, I just won
    ElFacktardoGrande has joined the fray

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  • BlemBlam3 said...

    And I dont see why you have never given me any real information to prove your statement that support your claim that Junior Seau's brain injuries played no part in his suicide

    Best you have done is " Hey, dudes kil themselves sometimes"

    I just see the stance that some of you are taking, basically " No one forces them to play, so fack em" as phony macho bluster

    Kind of like Chicken Hawk Politicians who never served, and who's kids will never serve, advocating military intervention at the drop of a hat No skin in the game

    While the people who do have skin in the game, are very concerned about the issue

    I simply believe there is a midlle ground, and a lot of steps that can be taken to make the game safer, and to still make it enjoyable for us fans, fun to play for the people who play it fir fun, and less risky over the long term for those fortunate enough to have football as a career option

    I do not see it as an either or situation

    I am being reasonable IMO and in return, get accused of hating football

    Madness

    On a sidenote, I would be interested in learning what the CFL is doing on the matter

    You just became my favorite poster on the board....

    CoachGomez214

  • Thank God somebody gets it....

    CoachGomez214

  • CoachGomez214591 said...

    You just became my favorite poster on the board....

    Thanks, I think

    BlemBlam3 ●

  • BlemBlam3 said...

    Thanks, I think

    No, I'm not a sarcastic azzhole like others on this board. Your points are VERY valid and well taken, but to the rest of the cavemen on this board, they don't see things from a human perspective, but rather an entertainment one. If it was up to the majority on this board, they would bring back the gladiators and sacrifice people to lions. SMH...

    CoachGomez214

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