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What is your opinion of obama and football

  • CoachGomez214591 said...

    No, I'm not a sarcastic azzhole like others on this board. Your points are VERY valid and well taken, but to the rest of the cavemen on this board, they don't see things from a human perspective, but rather an entertainment one. If it was up to the majority on this board, they would bring back the gladiators and sacrifice people to lions. SMH...

    roflmao

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    NoVaNoles

  • CoachGomez214591 said...

    No, I'm not a sarcastic azzhole like others on this board. Your points are VERY valid and well taken, but to the rest of the cavemen on this board, they don't see things from a human perspective, but rather an entertainment one. If it was up to the majority on this board, they would bring back the gladiators and sacrifice people to lions. SMH...

    My I think was directed more at the incredibly small hill it takes to be called someone's favorite poster

    For most, it just means you are a bigger A$$hole than the other A$$holes voting

    We are on the same page, trust me

    BlemBlam3

  • Blem, not sure what the CFL is doing about concussions. It's a garbage league and I never watch it, or pay attention. I know they are doing something as I've heard it on TV, but never paid attention close enough attention to know specifically what they are doing.

    Also maybe concussions and head trauma affected Seau's persona, but I'm guessing many other factors were the main contributor to his suicide and "erratic behavior". Mainly being out of the spotlight, no longer having that feeling of being on a team, lots of factors of transitioning from pro athlete to regular joe. Heck we saw he had issues with it when he retired and un-retired a couple times.

    Plus you say I have no proof that this does affect someones behavior, but no one has concrete proof the opposite way either. Seems like there is more of a cause and effect conclusion as opposed to hard evidence connecting the two. Perhaps they are tied together, perhaps not. You chose to believe one, I chose to believe the other.

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  • Why are you guys making this into something? He specifically said nfl guys are paid and have things to take care of them. College players have nothing and theyre putting their lives at risk for free.

    If obama says he won't let his children drive motorcycles is it really that bad? He simply says football is dangerous as hell and it's avoidable.

    ReasonableDoubt

  • Kaepernick just said "if I was worried about my health, I wouldn't be playing football"

    Haha

    Jeff4SC

  • ReasonableDoubt said...

    Why are you guys making this into something? He specifically said nfl guys are paid and have things to take care of them. College players have nothing and theyre putting their lives at risk for free.

    If obama says he won't let his children drive motorcycles is it really that bad? He simply says football is dangerous as hell and it's avoidable.

    College players are getting a free education. Also, they know the consequences as well

    Jeff4SC

  • Jeff4SC said...

    College players are getting a free education. Also, they know the consequences as well

    He only said that's why he wouldn't do it. He never said you couldn't....I would certainly take issue if he did.

    Is it such a big deal to have an opinion or is everything about political correctness?

    ReasonableDoubt

  • mriderblue12 said...

    Blem, not sure what the CFL is doing about concussions. It's a garbage league and I never watch it, or pay attention. I know they are doing something as I've heard it on TV, but never paid attention close enough attention to know specifically what they are doing.

    Also maybe concussions and head trauma affected Seau's persona, but I'm guessing many other factors were the main contributor to his suicide and "erratic behavior". Mainly being out of the spotlight, no longer having that feeling of being on a team, lots of factors of transitioning from pro athlete to regular joe. Heck we saw he had issues with it when he retired and un-retired a couple times.

    Plus you say I have no proof that this does affect someones behavior, but no one has concrete proof the opposite way either. Seems like there is more of a cause and effect conclusion as opposed to hard evidence connecting the two. Perhaps they are tied together, perhaps not. You chose to believe one, I chose to believe the other.

    So grest, we are having a discussion
    If you had said' "I am not convinced Junior Seau's suicide is tied to his head injuries" I may have never even commented
    But yiur initial statement was so black and white, it left you zero wiggle room
    So we are having a good discussion, but it's like you have just kind of given yourself a Mulligan on your first statement
    We can keep this up for days, but I will never let that one go, because of it's finality and complete closing of the door to discussion
    You keep trying to use the back door and it is making it hard to have a real discussion with you
    Which is sad, because I believe we could find a lot of common ground

    This post was edited by BlemBlam3 on 1/29/2013 at 12:11 PM

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  • Jeff4SC said...

    Sounds like a personal problem if you ask me. Pro athletes know the consequences. As far as high school and college players, their parents know the risks as well. If they don't agree with them, then do not let them play. Pretty simple concept.

    This is exactly right and is basically what our great president was alluding to when asked his opinion. He's also a parent and is allowed to think, speak, and answer a question as one.

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    he wouldn't let his players pose in the Playboy All-American magazine edition, he said, "Cause you can't play football with an erection."

    Urban Buckeye

  • Urban Buckeye said...

    This is exactly right and is basically what our great president was alluding to when asked his opinion. He's also a parent and is allowed to think, speak, and answer a question as one.

    Meh....nothing great about him.

    He has two girls anyway, he can put them in cheerleading.

    Jeff4SC

  • BlemBlam3 said...

    He can comment about the safety issues in football, and still tackle the issue of the alarming suicide rate in our Armed Forces

    Do you have some evidence that he isn't concerned?

    I know for a fact that the government is concerned because my daughter in law just got hired as a Psychologist at Ft Campbell to work with Soldiers and their families, with suicide prevention being at the top of her job description. And I know how many places she could have chosen from and I know there are a lot of jobs like hers openng up all over the country. Literally hundreds of openings to fill from what she told me

    I sure dont get why people think a President can't multi- task

    Sweet Strawman there BlemBlam3!

    Black Shipley

  • Black Shipley said...

    Sweet Strawman there BlemBlam3!

    In English?
    I will be glad to discuss this with you if I knew what you were referencing
    I was adding context to the Armed Forces Mental Health issue that OTHERS inserted into the discussion
    I have no inkling that Obama isn't concerned about it
    But I do know the government he runs is very concerned about it, based on personal knowledge
    My son and his wife just moved to Clarksville TN last week
    The company who hired her has a lot of those positions to fill, all over the country, specifically working with returning troops and their famiies
    So IMO, unless you can demonstrate otherwise, I believe Obama IS concerned about the situation

    BlemBlam3

  • BlemBlam3 said...

    In English? I will be glad to discuss this with you if I knew what you were referencing I was adding context to the Armed Forces Mental Health issue that OTHERS inserted into the discussion I have no inkling that Obama isn't concerned about it But I do know the government he runs is very concerned about it, based on personal knowledge My son and his wife just moved to Clarksville TN last week The company who hired her has a lot of those positions to fill, all over the country, specifically working with returning troops and their famiies So IMO, unless you can demonstrate otherwise, I believe Obama IS concerned about the situation

    roflmao people like you just further prove to me that football is done and will no longer be a sport anybody cares about sooner than later

    Its truly sad but Im over it and no longer care for I saw this coming 4 or 5 years ago, its not like Im playing anymore and I could easily live without watching it... its already gayer than its ever been by far and its only getting worse at a rapidly fast pace

    Lolz at this idea that pussies like you think you can " change " the game for the better

    What we should be doing is stop letting the players use steroids and PED's, that is a far bigger problem than how physical the game was always meant to be

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 1/30/2013 at 4:10 AM

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    roflmao people like you just further prove to me that football is done and will no longer be a sport anybody cares about sooner than later

    Its truly sad but Im over it and no longer care for I saw this coming 4 or 5 years ago, its not like Im playing anymore and I could easily live without watching it... its already gayer than its ever been by far and its only getting worse at a rapidly fast pace

    Lolz at this idea that pussies like you think you can " change " the game for the better

    What we should be doing is stop letting the players use steroids and PED's, that is a far bigger problem than how physical the game was always meant to be

    You are too stupid to debate with
    And too much of an asshole for me to want to
    Too dumb to realize you quoted a thread where I didn't even mention football
    Another fake tough guy
    Maybe you stopped playing because you sucked and no Pee Wee coach would pick you?

    This post was edited by BlemBlam3 on 1/30/2013 at 6:37 AM

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  • BlemBlam3 said...

    You are too stupid to debate with And too much of an asshole for me to want to Toi dumb to realize you quoted a thread where I didn't even mention football Another fake tough guy Maybe you stopped playing because you sucked and no Pee Wee coach would pick you?

    roflmao yeah you nailed it, Im way " toi " dumb for sure..... whatever that means

    Since when do Pee Wee coaches pick you like its recess in the 4th grade, Im pretty sure at that age that if you pay.. you play, end of story

    Maybe its different wherever the hell you are from, not sure

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    roflmao yeah you nailed it, Im way " toi " dumb for sure..... whatever that means

    Since when do Pee Wee coaches pick you like its recess in the 4th grade, Im pretty sure at that age that if you pay.. you play, end of story

    Maybe its different wherever the hell you are from, not sure

    Oh, sorry
    I meant too dumb
    But you knew that anyway
    Or maybe not
    To underestimate your dumbness would be dumb

    This post was edited by BlemBlam3 on 1/30/2013 at 6:40 AM

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  • BlemBlam3 said...

    Oh, sorry
    I meant too dumb
    But you knew that anyway
    Or maybe not
    To underestimate your dumbness would be dumb

    I like how this is written in poetic form!

    CoachGomez214

  • I am so thankful he has expressed his thoughts on this sensitive topic - I know he's an advocate of safety and will do whatever it takes to place his imprimatur on a new policy. He speaks for the people.

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    johnhunt

  • BlemBlam3 said...

    Blah Blah Blah
    You make statements that you cant back up with facts
    Not my problem
    I never said his brain issues were the reason he killed himself
    I simply said that there is a lot of reason to believe that it played at least a part
    Just as it did with Dave Duerson
    I notice in all our interaction, you have avoided his case
    I totally understand why
    You seem intractable, irascible and irritable
    I simply took issue with your definitive statement that brain damage issues had nothing to do with Junior Seau's suicide

    I have never declared it did

    I simply said that taking everything into consideration, there is enough evidence to believe it played at least a part

    You seem very invested in debunking this theory, despite the overwhelming agreement by the NFL, the players both present and past and the medical community that it is a problem that requires a cooperative and comprehensive effort to find a workable solution

    You sound like the know nothings who still deny global warning

    All from the comfort of your barcolounger

    Tough guy to the max, eh?

    This is the reason for the wussification of America folks. This and Mothers of America.

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    USMCAG

  • I really think it boils down to his concern over the lost tax revenue if a players career is cut short

    Go bucky go

  • Someone should ask him about the budget.

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  • USMCAG said...

    This is the reason for the wussification of America folks. This and Mothers of America.

    I have said nothing in this thread that people like Mike Ditka and Steve Young and Terry Bradshaw havent said
    I really only dusputed the contention that we know for a fact that Junior Seau wasnt impacted by the brain condition his autopsy proved he had
    I have never said anything more than it is a problem and the more they do to make it less o a problem is a good thing
    I heard Steve Young, who had his career ended by head issues say one thing they could do is establish a way to do base line testing for all kids so they can at least make informed decisions on their own health
    Not that a knee jerk reactionary like you would understand or even contemplate that
    It is people like YOU who will ruin the game, not Steve Young or me

    This post was edited by BlemBlam3 on 1/31/2013 at 8:42 AM

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  • Obama is a fan just like the rest of us. If he is asked a question on the subject it would be hard not to have an opinion and respond. On the other hand, they have to know the position they are in and the fact that when they express their opinions it carries much more weight than when others do. I do not think the gov has any business getting involved from a legislative standpoint.

    This post was edited by dpfenny on 1/31/2013 at 9:01 AM

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  • BlemBlam3 said...

    I have said nothing in thus thread that people like Mike Ditka and Steve Young and Terry Bradshaw havent said
    I really only dusputed the contention that we know for a fact that Junior Seau wasnt impacted by the brain condition his autopsy proved he had
    I have never said anything more than it is a problem and the more they do to make it less if a problem is a good thing
    I heard Steve Young, who had his career ended by head issues say one thing they coukd do us establish a way to do base line testing for all kids so they can at least make informed decusions on their own health
    Not that a knee jerk reactionary like you would undersrand or even contemplate that
    It us people like YOU who will ruin the game, not Steve Young

    Wrong. You aren't a conservative either.

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  • USMCAG said...

    Wrong. You aren't a conservative either.

    Brilliant, nonsensical retort
    Cant debate, change course and hope no one notices
    Pretty funny

    This post was edited by BlemBlam3 on 1/31/2013 at 8:47 AM

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