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What makes Walter Payton

  • rolBAMAballs said...

    I like to think Barry is the best runner of all time. I'm only 30, so I won't really argue it much. And Barry probably wasn't the blocker Payton and others were, but the best runner IMO

    Agreed.

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  • rolBAMAballs said...

    I like to think Barry is the best runner of all time. I'm only 30, so I won't really argue it much. And Barry probably wasn't the blocker Payton and others were, but the best runner IMO

    I'm just 21, so I can't say first hand, I just like Walter a lot lol

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  • theFightingtide said...

    Jim Brown- "Give me the heart of Walter Payton, there's never been a greater heart."

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  • theFightingtide said...

    I find it ironic that anyone is, because in that same video it says that Walter was the most complete player to ever play the game.

    And I disagree with this.

    Sammy Baugh is the most complete player. He played in all 3 phases of the game, and excelled in all of them. Offense, defense, special teams.

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  • theFightingtide said...

    Jim Brown- "Give me the heart of Walter Payton, there's never been a greater heart."

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  • BamaShack said...

    Brown

    Pretty good, just not Walter. I mean Brown even admits he probably didn't have the most talent in the video.

    I do respect him saying that and then saying that all that mattered was that he was ready when it was game time, it makes him seem less arrogant.

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  • RabidWolverine said...

    And I disagree with this.

    Sammy Baugh is the most complete player. He played in all 3 phases of the game, and excelled in all of them. Offense, defense, special teams.

    That guy played in one of the weakest eras of pro football...

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  • theFightingtide said...

    That guy played in one of the weakest eras of pro football...

    Let's be honest, so did Ruth. On the one hand it's awesome a guy could pound beers and stuff his face with hot dogs at games and still dominate, but on the other hand, how bad was everyone else that he could do so and succeed?

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  • theFightingtide said...

    That guy played in one of the weakest eras of pro football...

    lol

    It's not like the standouts from the past were superman and everybody else completely sucked. Sure, people today are more athletic, but I'd say everybody back then were also remotely on the same level athletically.

    It levels out.

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  • sf2k4 said...

    Let's be honest, so did Ruth. On the one hand it's awesome a guy could pound beers and stuff his face with hot dogs at games and still dominate, but on the other hand, how bad was everyone else that he could do so and succeed?

    The man hit tennis balls with oak trees over 500 ft walls. And was one of the most dominant post season pitches of all time.

    All while pounding beers. Smoking cigars. And running through dames. He is Bassball. Should be called the game of Ruth.

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  • sf2k4 said...

    Let's be honest, so did Ruth. On the one hand it's awesome a guy could pound beers and stuff his face with hot dogs at games and still dominate, but on the other hand, how bad was everyone else that he could do so and succeed?

    Indeed, I mean those guys were obviously talented to be able to do what they did, but everyone else wasn't all that good compared to athletes in later decades.

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  • Payton was the best that I ever saw personally. He could and did more on the field than Brown ever showed imo. Had Brown played more than 9 seasons this debate might be a moot point though too. Walter could pass a ball 60 yards, punt it 70, kick a 45 yd field goal,bench 390 lbs., leg presses with 700 lbs., and could walk from one side of the field to other side...on his hands.All this from a back who weighed less than 205 lbs. but with the most vicious stiff arm this side of Barry Sanders. He only missed 1 game in 13 years, which is unheard for any pro player, much less a running back.

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  • theFightingtide said...

    Jim Brown- "Give me the heart of Walter Payton, there's never been a greater heart."

    Well then Jim Brown stole my answer to the O.P.'s question...first thing that pops into my head when Payton's name is mentioned

    Seriously though, while Sweetness is my personal favorite of all time--I never saw a player play with more heart--I never saw Jim Brown play.

    But those who have seen both are unequivocal in their assessments: Jim Brown = GOAT...at least as far as RBs go, anyway.

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  • Knot Hole Cock said...

    Payton was the best that I ever saw personally. He could and did more on the field than Brown ever showed imo. Had Brown played more than 9 seasons this debate might be a moot point though too. Walter could pass a ball 60 yards, punt it 70, kick a 45 yd field goal,bench 390 lbs., leg presses with 700 lbs., and could walk from one side of the field to other side...on his hands.All this from a back who weighed less than 205 lbs. but with the most vicious stiff arm this side of Barry Sanders. He only missed 1 game in 13 years, which is unheard for any pro player, much less a running back.

    censored that is amazing. He was just a powerful man. There is a difference between strong and powerful. VERY few people are powerful, two that come to mind are Bruce Lee and Walter.

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  • ftlaudcock said...

    Well then Jim Brown stole my answer to the O.P.'s question...first thing that pops into my head when Payton's name is mentioned

    Seriously though, while Sweetness is my personal favorite of all time--I never saw a player play with more heart--I never saw Jim Brown play.

    But those who have seen both are unequivocal in their assessments: Jim Brown = GOAT...at least as far as RBs go, anyway.

    He gave it everything he had when he went out to play, more so than these guys today can say.

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  • rolBAMAballs said...

    I like to think Barry is the best runner of all time. I'm only 30, so I won't really argue it much. And Barry probably wasn't the blocker Payton and others were, but the best runner IMO

    Easily the best RB I ever saw in my life.Played for god forsaken franchise for his entire career.Barry was the only weapon on the team and still put ungodly numbers.Probably the best player I ever saw play football when you consider what he did on such a crappy team.

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  • theFightingtide said...

    censored that is amazing. He was just a powerful man. There is a difference between strong and powerful. VERY few people are powerful, two that come to mind are Bruce Lee and Walter.

    I think you are right sir.That probably describes Walter best Fightingtide....powerful...with a touch of a big, big, heart. I have looked many times over the years for a clip that shows him just running out of bounds. There may be one out there, but I have yet to find it. George Halas, the notoriously cheap,skin flint owner, and former coach of the Bears for 60 years, said back in the 80s that Walter Payton was the only player who had ever earned every single dollar that he ever paid him. This was the biggest backwards compliment he could have ever given to Payton.It must have meant something to Walter's teammates as well. 2 years later they won the Super Bowl

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  • Knot Hole Cock said...

    I think you are right sir.That probably describes Walter best Fightingtide....powerful...with a touch of a big, big, heart. I have looked many times over the years for a clip that shows him just running out of bounds. There may be one out there, but I have yet to find it. George Halas, the notoriously cheap,skin flint owner, and former coach of the Bears for 60 years, said back in the 80s that Walter Payton was the only player who had ever earned every single dollar that he ever paid him. This was the biggest backwards compliment he could have ever given to Payton.It must have meant something to Walter's teammates as well. 2 years later they won the Super Bowl

    Yeah I know a little about Halas and that is a lot for him to say. I really dont think there is a clip of that lol. He didnt know how to do that

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  • theFightingtide said...

    Yeah I know a little about Halas and that is a lot for him to say. I really dont think there is a clip of that lol. He didnt know how to do that

    The only way you'd find a clip of that is if he had to kill clock with no timeouts to set up a game winning field goal IMO

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  • That would've been the only way lol

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