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What the top 25 should look like.......

  • based off recruiting ranking for the last 4 classes, plus some notables.

    Note: average team ranking in recruiting is listed.

    1) Alabama 2.00
    2) Texas 3.25
    3) USC 4.75
    4) Florida St 5.00
    5) Florida 6.75
    6) Georgia 7.00
    7) Ohio St 8.25
    8) LSU 9.00
    9) Oklahoma 10.75
    10) Auburn 11.00
    11) Tennessee 12.75
    12) Notre Dame 14.75
    13) Michigan 15.25
    14) Stanford 16.25
    15) Miami 17.25
    16) South Carolina 17.50
    17) Oregon 18.00
    18) UCLA 20.25
    19) Clemson 22.25
    Texas A&M 22.25
    21) Nebraska 24.50
    California 24.50
    23) Penn St 26.75
    24) Arkansas 27.00
    25) Virginia Tech 28.25

    Ranked in the BCS, but not above:

    Kansas St 68.75
    Louisville 59.00
    Oregon St 46.75
    Mississippi St 30.25
    Texas Tech 31.50
    Boise St 73.00
    West Virginia 35.75
    Arizona 47.25
    Oklahoma St 33.00
    La Tech 96.75

    BetterOff ●

  • Or based on HC compensation ...

    1. Texas (NR)
    2. Alabama (BCS #1)
    3. Oklahoma (#12)
    4. Ohio State (NR)
    5. LSU (#5)
    6. Iowa (NR)
    7. Arkansas [Petrino] (NR)
    8. Auburn (NR)
    9. Michigan (NR)
    10. Florida (#7)
    11. Georgia (#6)
    12. South Carolina (#8)
    13. Oregon (#4)
    14. Nebraska (#20)
    15. Mississippi (NR)
    16. FSU (#9)
    17. Missouri (NR)
    18. Wisconsin (NR)
    19. Mississippi State (#15)
    20. Georgia Tech (NR)

    http://www.businessinsider.com/highest-paid-coaches-in-college-football-2011-11?op=1

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 10/30/2012 at 1:50 PM

    MrWoodson ●

  • I think for this to be accurate you have to weigh more heavily the upper two classes as that's whe most of your current starters likely are from

    I would say

    10% to 5th year
    30% to 4th
    30% to 3rd
    20% to 2nd
    10% to 1st

    You assume most of your starters are in 3rd-4th year.

    Twittter: @Game_Cocks21

    yellowfin ●

  • yellowfin said...

    I think for this to be accurate you have to weigh more heavily the upper two classes as that's whe most of your current starters likely are from

    I would say

    10% to 5th year
    30% to 4th
    30% to 3rd
    20% to 2nd
    10% to 1st

    You assume most of your starters are in 3rd-4th year.

    Wouldn't be true for Alabama. Many of our impact players (Yeldon cooper devall cyrus etc) are freshman.

    FortWorthTide

  • Interesting. Great thread BetterO.

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    ProUSC

  • I would like to see a formula combining a combination of all these things to spit out what the rankings should be based off recruiting, $$$ spent, resources, etc. +1 for you guys that have already done some of it.

    dkb2238

  • FortWorthTide said...

    Wouldn't be true for Alabama. Many of our impact players (Yeldon cooper devall cyrus etc) are freshman.

    Looking at Bama's depth chart. The starters(doesnt take into account who has most impact, which kids red-shirted or who gets most snaps)

    7 seniors
    8 juniors
    6 soph
    0 freshman (yes Cooper and Yeldon play a ton) Cyrus is a soph.

    The numbers seem to be in line

    This post was edited by yellowfin on 10/30/2012 at 2:05 PM

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    yellowfin ●

  • South Carolina

    9 seniors
    5 juniors
    7 Soph
    1 fresh

    Georgia

    9 seniors
    8 juniors
    3 soph
    2 fresh

    Florida

    7 seniors
    10 juniors
    5 soph
    0 fresh

    Twittter: @Game_Cocks21

    yellowfin ●

  • dkb2238 said...

    I would like to see a formula combining a combination of all these things to spit out what the rankings should be based off recruiting, $$$ spent, resources, etc. +1 for you guys that have already done some of it.

    .

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 10/30/2012 at 2:23 PM

    MrWoodson ●

  • yellowfin said...

    I think for this to be accurate you have to weigh more heavily the upper two classes as that's whe most of your current starters likely are from

    I would say

    10% to 5th year 30% to 4th 30% to 3rd 20% to 2nd 10% to 1st

    You assume most of your starters are in 3rd-4th year.

    In an ideal world, most of your starters are upperclassmen. In a world still suffering from RichRod's recruiting, Michigan has to start an ungodly number of underclassmen, and pretty much every position on the 2-deep has at least one underclassman.

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    CMXI

  • Michigan

    11- Seniors
    9 - Juniors
    2 - Soph
    0 - Freshman

    * Only starters listed.

    Twittter: @Game_Cocks21

    yellowfin ●

  • rolBAMAballs said...

    You just can't measure player development

    Mack Brown says thats over-rated

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    yellowfin ●

  • yellowfin said...

    Michigan

    11- Seniors 9 - Juniors 2 - Soph 0 - Freshman

    * Only starters listed.

    I assume you looked at Rivals to get those numbers - they're outdated.

    The problems are most evident on defense:

    At LB, there was a period of time where Joe Bolden (Fr.) was starting at MLB over senior Kenny Demens. Jibreel Black has been shifted inside so our starting WDE is now either Frank Clark (So.) or Brennen Beyer (So.). Our D-line rotates constantly, and as a result Ondre Pipkins (Fr.) and Mario Ojemudia (Fr.) see the field as much as the "starters" listed on Rivals. Our CBs are the result of injuries - Blake Countess (So.) is our #1, but he's out for the year. Raymon Taylor (So.) is also now starting over Courtney Avery. Finally, Thomas Gordon is pretty much in a platoon with Jarrod Wilson (Fr.).

    On offense, it's not as bad, but the depth is where you see the hit:

    At TE, AJ Williams (Fr.) is our main blocking TE, and Devin Funchess (Fr.) is our main receiving threat. Both see more time than Moore (Sr.) or Kwiatkowski (Sr.). Our backup QB is Russell Bellomy (Fr.). Our offensive line has only 7 scholarship OLs left from the 2007-11 classes. As a result, here are the backups in the 2-deep:

    LT: Erik Magnusson (Fr.)
    LG: Joey Burzynski (So.)
    C: Jack Miller (Fr.)
    RG: Kyle Kalis (Fr.)
    RT: Ben Braden (Fr.)

    As you can see, our upperclassmen are decimated, and we're leaning very heavily on young players across the board.

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  • yeah just easy to sort on their database. I assume depending on site whether or not they have them updated

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    yellowfin ●

  • yellowfin said...

    Michigan

    11- Seniors
    9 - Juniors
    2 - Soph
    0 - Freshman

    * Only starters listed.

    Slightly off ...

    SR 11
    JR 7
    SO 4
    FR 0

    But 11 of the 18 upperclassmen are on offense, where they are largely "spread" players who do not fit a pro style offense very well. As they graduate over the next two years, they will be replaced by upperclassmen actually recruited to play in a pro style system.

    MrWoodson ●

  • FortWorthTide said...

    Wouldn't be true for Alabama. Many of our impact players (Yeldon cooper devall cyrus etc) are freshman.

    Same for Oregon.

    Top passer- freshman.

    Top rushers- 6 of top 7 are soph or frosh. All except Barner

    Top 3 receivers- frosh, soph, soph.

    Top TE- Soph, Frosh.

    Defense is a different story but with the exception of our o-line and kenjon barner almost our entire offense is sophomore or younger.

    Interesting post though.

    ducklefty

  • Looks like Texas and Auburn need a refund.

    Ohio Tider

  • yellowfin said...

    Looking at Bama's depth chart. The starters(doesnt take into account who has most impact, which kids red-shirted or who gets most snaps)

    7 seniors
    8 juniors
    6 soph
    0 freshman (yes Cooper and Yeldon play a ton) Cyrus is a soph.

    The numbers seem to be in line

    Technical starters or not, our leading rusher and leading receiver are true freshmen. They are the starters as far as I'm concerned.

    HADOUKEN

  • RTR13 said...

    Technical starters or not, our leading rusher and leading receiver are true freshmen. They are the starters as far as I'm concerned.

    Anyway to make the gumps look better SMH

    LScootU

  • Our starter breakdown:

    Senior - 5
    Junior - 6
    Sophomore - 8
    Frosh - 3

    Alonzo Harris

  • LScootU said...

    Anyway to make the gumps look better SMH

    Denzel Devall and Landon Collins are working out great! Kenny Bell would actually also have done well at LSU, but Mett probably couldn't get him the ball either.

    LSU QBs. lol

    This post was edited by BetterOff on 10/31/2012 at 6:48 AM

    BetterOff ●

  • not sure exactly what our starter breakdown looks like cause it isnt exactly 100 percent steady but i know we play alot of freshmen and sophs.

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