The Blue Board

Amen brother!

First thing cut should be all the numbnuts in Congress as well as the President. They should all be re-called and replaced if they cant figure this out.

cliffs? cannot watch on work computer - if interesting will watch later tonight

Why do we continually elect inept people? Says something about us if we keep letting them make us worse and worse as a nation (IMO):

News flash, folks: these people are responsible if we go over the fiscal cliff.

as a lifelong conservative, I am disappointed in replublicans big time. Boehner to me did well in a very, very tough position, and he just got his ass thrown under the bus.

However, democrats are to blame also. They are sitting back and doing nothing allowing this to happen for their political gain. Obama ran on working both sides, spending/entitlement reform and revenue, and yet he will not identify any significant plans on entitlement reform. He was so unmoving that Boehner virtually had to do all the work himself, and now he is the one getting crucified when he appears to be the only person actually TRYING to get something done.

Are you kidding me? Democrats doing nothing? Have you seen the most recent proposals from the Obama administration?

If Democrats were sitting back and doing nothing, Boehner's "Plan B" would never have been an option. Obama has given up a payroll tax holiday extension, acceded to many of Boehner's revenue demands, agreed to cuts in aid programs (FFS, a Democrat agreed to cut Social Security benefits - do you know how unpopular that is?), and even opened up to the idea of extending the Bush tax cuts for earned income under $1,000,000/year, as opposed to only $250,000/year.

Dan Burton (R-Ind.) has it right. The Republican Party has already won a victory by seeing Obama change his demands at all. If we go over the fiscal cliff, this deal goes out the window and Obama has the entire tide of public opinion on his side. He also has the best bully pulpit in the nation, the State of the Union address, in which to further argue his points. This is the time to make a deal, but the extremist wing of the Republican party won't allow that to happen.

He started at $250,000, moved to $400,000 and signaled willingness to move a little bit higher, to $700-800k.

$1M/year is so, so, SO high that it's infuriating. We're not talking about millionaires, we're talking about people who could blow all the money they've ever saved in Vegas and then become millionaires again in 365 days. It's not the wealthiest 1%. It's the wealthiest 0.19%. And we're only going back to the tax rates of the Clinton era!

Republicans control the house and this bill has to start in the house. The biggest problem is that the moderate wing of the Republican party has been almost wiped out. The ultra-conservatives refused to raise rates on the wealthiest 0.19%. And that was the REPUBLICAN plan, not a compromise.

One side has made concessions while the other side has not.

Take and educated guess on who is who.

This is why, if Boehner wants to get anything done, he'll get a coalition of 50 or so of the most moderate Republicans together and pass a modified plan that's simply an agreement between the Democrats and the moderate Republicans. If "Plan B" couldn't even get approved, Boehner will never get unanimous support for any plan even remotely within striking distance of a possible agreement.

Of course, this would also be political suicide, so it's never going to happen.

I think the Dems are mistaken. Dou you think R's are worried about tarnishing their brand? Obama's got to cut spending for this to work.

The R's are willing to raise taxes, Obama is unwilling to cut. What hsppened to 3:1 spending cuts, Obamas proposal isnt even 1:1 in real dollars.

Again, there has been no concessions by the Republicans. The Democrats have made concessions.

What's funny is recent polls about who is causing the Fiscal Cliff are showing that the american people believe the Republicans are standing in the way. Huge change from last year.

They can only blame themselves.