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St.Pete_Nole said...
Romney won like OK State beat Savannah State
In all seriousness, what stood out to me is that Romney is willing to work with the democrats. He seems much more intelligent than Obama and just seemed more fit to be president.
Also, I wanted to smack Obama for being a smug little turd when he said he likes the "ObamaCare" name.
90 billion on green energy and half have gone out of business? Are those numbers right?
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c_woodson said...
No, the numbers are not right; not even close. I believe there were 30+ companies that received money from the govt guaranteed loan program and 3 have filed for bankruptcy. Romney mentioned that Tesla was a "loser" company, which makes absolutely no sense.
I thought Romney won the night. Obama was far too soft, seemed tired and off his game.
I'd like to see Romney give more details on his plans.
And a moderator who has some control over the proceedings would be nice for the next debate.
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1st_and_NOLE said...
Not sure I agree historical research has any barring on this election. No matter what side you're on, given the state of our country, I think most people feel this is the most important election in our lifetime. People will turn out to vote in record numbers, IMO.
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c_woodson said...
I'm sure something around that number was allocated for loans. However, it isn't free money. It was simply a govt guaranteed loan, with the idea to jump start the industry and help small, innovative businesses. Some of those businesses didn't work out, but that also doesn't mean there weren't technological advances made with the money they received. Also, there were republican and democrat donors who invested in companies that received the loans.
Romney was completely wrong that Obama could have hired 2 million teachers with that money. That would have only covered their salaries for a single year (at 45K per teacher, no benefits of course). But then the 90 billion would be gone and there would be 2 million teachers without jobs.
Romney was also off in his comments about Obama and doubling the deficit, amongst other things.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MrWoodson on 10/4/2012 at 3:07 AM
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kitemac said...
They should 1910 through 1950 was way more important then it will be now. 1917-1918 entered the first world war which killed 116,516 US deaths. WWII 1941-1945 killed 405,399 US deaths. This isn't even close to the most important election. From 1910 to 1950 this country went from a private country to a super power country. Went form one of the lowest we could be like the Great Depression to being at least the top two countries. One with Russia. This election isn't even close to half of those elections. I've heard promises for the last 6 years at least not much of it really mean much.
I do want to know Mitt ended his speech with that he will not cut the DOD. (this is only a question for the actual republicans) Considering how much the DOD controls how much of the government could they cut without cutting some of DOD. Be honest I am close with DOD>
GO NOLES!
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CliftonHokie09 said...
Based on attitude and tone, Romney was the clear winner. Based on policies and actual debate, both did a decent job outlining their policies without really going into too much detail. We still don't know the details of Romney's tax cut, but he kept insisting it was not a $5 trillion cut. Romney had to come out swinging and the President could play it safe, but he played it too safe. This will probably wake the President and his team up to be more aggressive in the next two. It's still too early to say that this debate will have any significant impact when there's two more to go (plus a VP debate). If Romney continues this pace, then it'll be a close election, but this was Romney's bread and butter debate as it was on the economy. Obama needs to come out more prepared in the next one and read like an actor like Romney did. He needs to turn it back to issues that Romney is hurting on: women, minorities, and class division. I was shocked he didn't bring up the 47% issue last night. There were so many times when Romney kept talking about helping the middle class that I was sure Obama would deliver that punch, but it did not happen. I'd expect it to definitely come out in Biden's debate and Obama's next one though.
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VTSmitty said...
Not sure how Romney will address the 47% comment, but there is probably nothing he is more prepared for than for Obama bringing that up. Obama brought up Obamacare being crafted after Romney's plan in Mass. Romney loved that and went into depth about it being a state program, and state's being more effective and efficient at taking care of their own.
There are some things Obama can't overcome. He is eloquent and well spoken with a telepromter in front of him. Off the cuff, he looks like a completely different person.
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TalHawkins112 said...
I think Romney came out with some pretty good lies about helping the middle class but his plan is a recipe for disaster.
If you don't know the truth about what Romney wants to do I could see why you thought he won, but in reality unless you're a millionaire, fiscally you should want Obama to win.
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TalHawkins112 said...
I think Romney came out with some pretty good lies about helping the middle class but his plan is a recipe for disaster.
If you don't know the truth about what Romney wants to do I could see why you thought he won, but in reality unless you're a millionaire, fiscally you should want Obama to win.
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VTSmitty said...
Well, Chris Matthews is probably Obama's #1 fan, and he admitted Obama got his ass handed to him. James Carville is damn sure no Romney supporter and thought Romney embarrassed Obama. If you really don't think Romney won the debate in a landslide, then you and David Axelrod may be the only two people on the planet to believe that.
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TalHawkins112 said...
So you are aware that A) Romney wants to repeal Obamacare B) to replace it with the same thing to be enacted state by state C) Obamacare will actually reduce the deficit
So in other words Romney wants to do the same thing but spend more doing it, like a petulant child, rather than admit Obamacare is the best option.
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So you are aware that A) Romney wants to repeal Obamacare B) to replace it with the same thing to be enacted state by state C) Obamacare will actually reduce the deficit
So in other words Romney wants to do the same thing but spend more doing it, like a petulant child, rather than admit Obamacare is the best option.
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