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Who has the most tradition of any team in college football?

  • FSUTrackLove said...

    fsu...

    Is top 10 but shouldn't be considered for the #1 spot.

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  • RabidWolverine said...

    I was thinking Biakabutuka. lol

    Why not both... lol

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  • RabidWolverine said...

    I just looked up the stats of Namath, Stabler, Starr, and compared them to the Heisman winners.. The voters got it right, Namath, Stabler, and Starr were outperformed by the actual Heisman winners. So no, they didn't deserve to win one. Anybody else you got for me that you think was "robbed"?

    Shaun Alexander.

    And you are incorrect in your thoughts that just the best performer wins the Heisman. The Heisman is about a lot more than raw stats. It's about how well your team does, how much of a leader you are, how you guide your team, what effect you have on your team's success, etc...

    This post was edited by CtrlAltDel on 6/30/2012 at 3:16 AM

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  • Don Hutson would have sure as hell won the Heisman it if it existed at the time.

    This post was edited by CtrlAltDel on 6/30/2012 at 3:14 AM

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  • CtrlAltDel said...

    Shaun Alexander.

    Nope.

    Shaun Alexander 1999 season = 302 carries, 1383 yds, 4.6 YpC, 19 TD's
    Ron Dayne 1999 season = 303 carries, 1834 yds, 6.1 YpC, 19 TD's

    Still didn't get robbed. FYI, I picked the 1999 season because it was his best one, and the season I assume you think he got robbed.

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  • RabidWolverine said...

    Nope.

    Shaun Alexander 1999 season = 302 carries, 1383 yds, 4.6 YpC, 19 TD's Ron Dayne 1999 season = 303 carries, 1834 yds, 6.1 YpC, 19 TD's

    Still didn't get robbed. FYI, I picked the 1999 season because it was his best one, and the season I assume you think he got robbed.

    Raw stats have nothing to do with who wins the Heisman Trophy, you are misinformed. It has to do with what player on a very successful team helped contribute to that team's success in the most viable way.

    Being a freak of nature has absolutely nothing to do with winning a Heisman.

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  • CtrlAltDel said...

    Raw stats have nothing to do with who wins the Heisman Trophy, you are misinformed. It has to do with what player on a very successful team helped contribute to that team's success in the most viable way.

    Being a freak of nature has absolutely nothing to do with winning a Heisman.

    Oh my bad, I thought the the Heisman was an individual award, not a team award. When did that change? shrug

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  • CtrlAltDel said...

    Raw stats have nothing to do with who wins the Heisman Trophy, you are misinformed. It has to do with what player on a very successful team helped contribute to that team's success in the most viable way.

    Being a freak of nature has absolutely nothing to do with winning a Heisman.

    You're right...they should retroactively award Craig Krenzel with a Heisman.

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  • RabidWolverine said...

    Oh my bad, I thought the the Heisman was an individual award, not a team award. When did that change? shrug

    Do you notice a theme here? Everybody is "misinformed", but him. Sounds a lot like the way Jordan runs the Bobcats.

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  • CtrlAltDel said...

    I agree, Slug. If there had to be a determination of the best 5 teams ever and it had to made or else,

    Alabama
    Notre Dame
    Michigan
    Southern Cal
    and
    probably Ohio State

    would be the 5 best of all time, period.

    In that order.

    Its hard to make an argument bout Bama over Michigan due to bama's recent success and seems like has a strangle hold on recruiting! I already stated there's 4 teams + notre dame- - that's college football !

    Slugjuice

  • Clarkw267 said...

    Sounds a lot like the way Jordan runs the Bobcats.

    roflmao

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  • CtrlAltDel said...

    Raw stats have nothing to do with who wins the Heisman Trophy, you are misinformed. It has to do with what player on a very successful team helped contribute to that team's success in the most viable way.

    Being a freak of nature has absolutely nothing to do with winning a Heisman.

    You truly believe that Alexander was more deserving than Dayne? Wisconsin finished #8, Bama finished #9, it's not like either led their team closer to a NC than the other, so the most logical indicator of who should win the Heisman would be individual stats, no?

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  • TAMUWolverine said...

    You truly believe that Alexander was more deserving than Dayne? Wisconsin finished #8, Bama finished #9, it's not like either led their team closer to a NC than the other, so the most logical indicator of who should win the Heisman would be individual stats, no?

    Heisman winners are not the best player in the country, usually the voters end up voting a player from a team that is runnin a a natty championship...

    Slugjuice

  • Slugjuice said...

    Heisman winners are not the best player in the country, usually the voters end up voting a player from a team that is runnin a a natty championship...

    I don't disagree with that but seeing as how neither of the two players he was comparing helped their team get the NC, I said individual stats is probably the best indication of who deserved the Heisman more between the two of them.

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  • RR last year in A2-Denard Robinson shoudve won the heisman!! He wasnt even invited cuz as a team we sucked!
    Great team= heisman!

    Slugjuice

  • Slugjuice said...

    Heisman winners are not the best player in the country, usually the voters end up voting a player from a team that is runnin a a natty championship...

    Baylor was in the running for the NC last year? Must have missed that.

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  • Clarkw267 said...

    Baylor was in the running for the NC last year? Must have missed that.

    Where they ?? Who's baylor? Enlighten me plz !

    Slugjuice

  • Clarkw267 said...

    Baylor was in the running for the NC last year? Must have missed that.

    FYI - I said "usually".

    Slugjuice

  • CtrlAltDel said...

    The following is a compilation of all the interesting Alabama football stats that are scattered around on different websites, in a myriad of books, football programs, etc... all coalesced into one .txt file for easy viewing.

    Enjoy!

    Overall, the Alabama Crimson Tide is the best team to ever put
    on helmets and cleats in the history of American Collegiate Div. 1-A football.

    Very few institutions in American sports can match the enduring excellence of the
    University of Alabama football program. Across a wide swath of the last century, the
    tradition-rich Crimson Tide has claimed fourteen national championships, captured
    twenty-six conference titles, finished thirty-six times among the country's top ten, and
    played in 59 bowl games.

    The #1 Overall Most Successful Div. 1-A Football Team
    http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/rankings/all_time_team_rankings.php

    14 National Championships

    All Time Football Record (814-320-43)

    34 Bowl Wins - Best in the nation.
    59 Bowl Games - Best in the nation.

    22 SEC Championship Titles - More than any team in the SEC.
    4 Southern Conference Championships
    26 Total Conference Championships

    50 Top 25 Finishes

    38 Top 10 Finishes

    93 Winning Seasons

    10 Undefeated Seasons

    17 Undefeated Regular Seasons

    24 double digit winning streaks. Best in the nation.

    814 Total Wins
    8th All-Time In The Nation in outright wins at 0.710.
    7th All-Time in winning percentage at 0.709.

    (This total does not include 29 wins nullified by the NCAA)

    Official Overall Record (814-320-43)--0.710
    Unaltered Overall Record(843-311-44)--0.722

    Southern Conference Record/1921-1932 = (89-23-6)--0.780

    Official Southeastern Conference Record - (609-236-26)--0.714
    Unaltered Southeastern Conference Record - (638-227-27)--0.730

    31 Ten Win Seasons - 2nd best in nation
    15 Eleven Win Seasons - 3rd best in nation.

    All Time Record at Bryant-Denny Stadium:
    236-48-3

    All-Time Record at Legion Field:
    160-52-12

    All-Time Record at Rickwood Field:
    23-12-5

    All Time Record at Denny Field:
    43-3

    All-Time Record at The Quad:
    42-11

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    Conference Championships:

    SEC Titles - 22

    1933 - '34 - '37-'45 - '53 - '61 - '64 - '65 - '66 - '71 - '72 - '73 -
    '74 - '75 - '77 - '78 - '79 - '81 - '89 - '92 - '99 - 2009

    Southern Conference Championships - 4

    1924,'25,'26 &'30.

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    Alabama vs. SEC Opponents - All-Time

    Winning % - 0.695
    Games Played - 563
    Won - 381
    Lost -161
    Tied - 21

    Alabama - 15 Wins Arkansas - 7 Wins Ties - 0
    Average score: Alabama 26.3 - Arkansas 17.6

    Alabama - 41 Wins Auburn - 34 Wins Ties - 1
    Average score: Alabama 19.5 - Auburn 16.0

    Alabama - 49 Wins Tennessee-37 Wins Ties - 8
    Average score: Alabama 17.2 - Tennessee 13.8

    Alabama - 12 Wins S. Caro. - 3 Wins Ties - 0
    Average score: Alabama 26.9 - South Carolina 10.8

    Alabama - 23 Wins Florida - 14 Wins Ties - 0
    Average score: Alabama 25.0 - Florida 14.8

    Alabama - 36 Wins Georgia - 25 Wins Ties - 4
    Average score: Alabama 16.3 - Georgia 11.9

    Alabama - 46 Wins LSU - 25 Wins Ties - 5
    Average score: Alabama 19.0 - LSU 12.1

    Alabama - 35 Wins Kentucky - 2 Wins Ties - 1
    Average score: Alabama 25.2 - Kentucky 7.3

    Alabama - 49 Wins Mississippi - 8 Wins Ties - 2
    Average score: Alabama 29.2 - Mississippi 11.1

    Alabama - 61 Wins Vanderbilt - 18 Wins Ties - 4
    Average score: Alabama 23.6 - Vanderbilt 12.1

    Alabama - 76 Wins Ms. State - 17 Wins Ties - 3
    Average score: Alabama 22.4 - Mississippi St 9.5

    Alabama - 3 Wins Texas A&M - 1 Win Ties - 0
    Average score: Alabama 24.5 - Texas AM 15.3

    Alabama - 1 Win Missouri - 2 wins Ties - 0
    Average score: Alabama 18.3 - Missouri 25.0

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    Bowls:

    The team has played in 59 bowl games, the most of any college team.
    (34 wins, 22 losses, and 3 ties)

    The Crimson Tide has played in 17 different bowl games, this includes the newly created BCS Bowl Championship game.

    Alabama has played in one out of every 10 Cotton Bowl games.

    Bama has won more Sugar Bowls than any other team with 13
    appearances and 8 wins.

    The Tide has played in eight Orange Bowls.

    The Crimson Tide has participated in six Rose Bowls. Out of these, they won four, lost one, and tied one.

    21 Major Bowl Victories & 1 Tie:

    '26 Rose - Won
    '27 Rose - Tie
    '31 Rose - Won
    '35 Rose - Won
    '42 Cotton - Won
    '43 Orange - Won
    '46 Rose - Won
    '53 Orange - Won
    '62 Sugar - Won
    '63 Orange - Won
    '64 Sugar - Won
    '66 Orange - Won
    '67 Sugar - Won
    '75 Sugar - Won
    '78 Sugar - Won
    '79 Sugar - Won
    '80 Sugar - Won
    '81 Cotton - Won
    '93 Sugar - Won
    2010 BCS - Won - '09 Champions
    2012 BCS - Won - '11 Champions

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    10+ Win Seasons:

    Year Record
    1920 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .10-1
    1925 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .10-0
    1930 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .10-0
    1934 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .10-0
    1945 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .10-0
    1952 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .10-2
    1961 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .11-0
    1962 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .10-1
    1964 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .10-1
    1966 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .11-0
    1971 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .11-1
    1972 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .10-2
    1973 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .11-1
    1974 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .11-1
    1975 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .11-1
    1977 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .11-1
    1978 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .11-1
    1979 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .12-0
    1980 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .10-2
    1986 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .10-3
    1989 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .10-2
    1991 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .11-1
    1992 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .13-0
    1994 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .12-1
    1996 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .10-3
    1999 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .10-3
    2002 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .10-3
    2005 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .10-2
    2008 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .12-2
    2009 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .14-0
    2010 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .10-3
    2011 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .12-1

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    Dominating Decades:

    School (Decade) Overall Record
    ALABAMA (1960s) 90-16-4
    ALABAMA (1970s) 103-16-1
    Oklahoma (1970s) 102-13-3
    Nebraska (1980s) 103-20
    BYU (1980s) 102-26
    Florida State (1990s) 109-13-1
    Nebraska (1990s) 108-16-1
    Florida (1990s) 102-22-1

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    College and Pro Football Hall of Fame:

    Alabama has 17 college football hall-of-famers, and 104 players honored 121 times as first team All-Americans (44 consensus) in its history, including 12 players honored twice and two players (Cornelius Bennett and Woodrow Lowe) who were honored three times.

    Alabama has 3 College Football Hall of Fame coaches.

    There are players and coaches from every single decade from the 1920's forward from Alabama that have been inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame.

    The Crimson Tide have seven former players in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, the third highest total among college football programs. The elite list includes Don Hutson (1963), Bart Starr (1977), Joe Namath (1985), John Hannah (1990), Dwight Stephenson (1998), Ozzie Newsome (1999) and most recently Derrick Thomas (2009).

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    Alabama's '09 National Championship Season

    Alabama became the first team in major college football history to defeat the last three previous national champions in the same season. (24-15 vs '07 champion LSU, 32-13 vs '08 & '06 champion Florida and 37-21 vs '05 champion Texas)

    Alabama became the first team in major college football history to defeat two straight opponents with at least a 12-0 record.
    (defeated 12-0 Florida in SEC title game and 13-0 Texas in BCS title game)

    Alabama placed six players on the Associated Press All-American first team. That's the most ever selected from one team. (previously five by Oklahoma in '87 & '03)

    Alabama defeated 10 bowl opponents in 2009. That's the most ever recorded in major college football history.

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    Best Defense To Ever Exist:

    The Alabama Crimson Tide's 1961 defense allowed a mere 25 points all season, compiling six shutouts, five of them coming consecutively. No defense, in collegiate 1-A football, has fared better on paper than the 1961 Crimson Tide defense led by Leroy Jordan. While the defense held opponents to a combined total of 25 points, the Tide's offense scored 297 points throughout the season.

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    Miscellaneous:

    Coach Paul “Bear” Bryant posted a remarkable 72-2 (.973) record in Tuscaloosa, losing only to Florida (1963) and Southern Miss (1982).

    During the decade of the '60s Alabama compiled a record of 90-16-5 with eight of those
    losses coming in the final two years of the 1960s.

    During the decade of the 1970s, 'Bama compiled a 103-16-1 record. Five of
    these losses coming in the year 1970, alone.

    Overall, from the year 1960 through the year 1979 the Crimson Tide managed a staggering 193-32-5 (0.850) record. During this same time span, the Crimson Tide was 59-1 (0.983) at home.

    From 1963-82, Alabama posted an NCAA record 57-game home winning streak. Miami has since beaten this record, with 58 straight home wins, but 3 of their wins came in bowl games at their home stadium. All of 'Bama's wins were during the regular season.

    On November 16, 1968, Alabama defeats Miami, 14-6, in a nationally televised night game from the Orange Bowl Stadium. It is the first ever-prime time regular season game televised. ABC had the rights to the game.

    On October 3, 1969, Alabama defeats Ole Miss 33-32 on ABC television in the first ever prime time telecast of an SEC football game.

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    Academics:

    The USA Today All-USA College Academic Team honors the “best of the best” undergraduate academic all-stars from across the nation. The team recognizes college students who not only excel in scholarship but also extend their intellectual abilities beyond the classroom to benefit society.

    With seven team members, UA students account for more than 10 percent of the 60 students nationwide named to USA Today’s First, Second and Third Teams. UA has the most team members of any school. Yale comes in second with five team members.

    This year’s team brings UA’s total for the last six years to 31, a figure that tops all other colleges and universities. In addition to this year, UA had the most students on the list in 2006 with six and in 2005 and 2003, both with five. In 2007, UA tied with Washington University-St. Louis for the most team members with four. In 2004, with four students on the team, UA came in second only to Harvard.

    Alabama consistently fields student-athletes who excel in the classroom as well as on the field. The University of Alabama is tied for fifth in the nation for the number of Academic-All Americans since 2000 from all universities.

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  • I was laughing when I saw CtrlAltDel try to use academics as an example of his school's "superiority". Give us a break, your school's academics are trash compared to most B1G schools. Having several Academic All-Amercans does not mean a lot considering the difficulty of their courses.
    Also, everyone can have their own opinion, so you should stop trying to shove your Alabama Propaganda down everyone's throats.

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  • Jack Daniels said...

    I was laughing when I saw CtrlAltDel try to use academics as an example of his school's "superiority". Give us a break, your school's academics are trash compared to most B1G schools. Having several Academic All-Amercans does not mean a lot considering the difficulty of their courses. Also, everyone can have their own opinion, so you should stop trying to shove your Alabama Propaganda down everyone's throats.

    Right, no matter how well any others do in this nation, it is on a simplistically comparative scale to whatever a Big10 school does, I get it. Y'all are just better, in every way, even the Civil War. Right? Please talk about how y'all won the war and be more like every other Big Tener I have spoken with in the last 10 years, from Detroit to Columbus to Pitt.

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  • Although I recognize that it is literally impossible to quantify tradition, I understand what people are getting at. In light of the fact that this is a completely subjective question, here is my answer:

    All-Time:
    1. Michigan
    2. Notre Dame
    3. Oklahoma
    4. Alabama
    5. USC
    Honorable Mention: Yale

    Since WW2:
    1. Oklahoma
    2. Alabama
    3. USC
    4. Ohio St
    5. Michigan
    Honorable Mention: Miami, FSU

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  • thejumper5 said...

    Although I recognize that it is literally impossible to quantify tradition, I understand what people are getting at. In light of the fact that this is a completely subjective question, here is my answer:

    All-Time: 1. Michigan 2. Notre Dame 3. Oklahoma 4. Alabama 5. USC Honorable Mention: Yale

    Since WW2: 1. Oklahoma 2. Alabama 3. USC 4. Ohio St 5. Michigan Honorable Mention: Miami, FSU

    That is pretty surprising considering Alabama's best years were in the 20's and 30's. Very few of you Yank's have knowledge of Alabama's history before the 60's. It's distressing at the lack of football knowledge here on 24/7.

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  • thejumper5 said...

    Although I recognize that it is literally impossible to quantify tradition, I understand what people are getting at. In light of the fact that this is a completely subjective question, here is my answer:

    All-Time:
    1. Michigan
    2. Notre Dame
    3. Oklahoma
    4. Alabama
    5. USC
    Honorable Mention: Yale

    Since WW2:
    1. Oklahoma
    2. Alabama
    3. USC
    4. Ohio St
    5. Michigan
    Honorable Mention: Miami, FSU

    +1 - oklahoma!! Everyone is missin the point of this thread.. Its ok..

    Slugjuice

  • CtrlAltDel said...

    That is pretty surprising considering Alabama's best years were in the 20's and 30's. Very few of you Yank's have knowledge of Alabama's history before the 60's. It's distressing at the lack of football knowledge here on 24/7.

    I'm not sure why you have to make this argument a sectarian one. I know full well, as many "yanks" do that Alabama was quite successful in the early 20th century. I'm also aware Michigan's and Notre Dame's best years were earlier on, and I, in my ability to form a completely subjective opinion, think that Michigan and Notre Dame were enough better early on and Oklahoma was enough better later on that all three should be ahead of Alabama.

    Also, I guarantee I know about 200 times more about Alabama football than you do about Iowa football, so don't talk to me about football knowledge.

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