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Inaccurate. Did you see how many times I used the word elite before I said SEC teams and then said "in a championship game"- translation- I am not talking about Ohio State going to Ole Miss and getting whacked just because Ole Miss is located in the state of Mississippi.
Proximity is relevant in college football recruiting. That's a fact. If you are located in a good state for talent, chances are you are going to be pretty good. Case-in-point is your Buckeyes. LSU is good because Louisiana has a ton of good football players. Recruiting in this sport is more national in nature than it once was, but geography still matters.
USC being located in California certainly helps with the top kids from that state, don't you think?
There's nothing false about location being important with regards to roster building in college football.
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JC Shurburtt said...
Inaccurate. Did you see how many times I used the word elite before I said SEC teams and then said "in a championship game"- translation- I am not talking about Ohio State going to Ole Miss and getting whacked just because Ole Miss is located in the state of Mississippi.
Proximity is relevant in college football recruiting. That's a fact. If you are located in a good state for talent, chances are you are going to be pretty good. Case-in-point is your Buckeyes. LSU is good because Louisiana has a ton of good football players. Recruiting in this sport is more national in nature than it once was, but geography still matters.
USC being located in California certainly helps with the top kids from that state, don't you think?
There's nothing false about location being important with regards to roster building in college football.
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drmiller166 said...
Saying "oversigning aside" is like saying "I know the AFC East has won the Super Bowl 7 consecutive years, but let's not talk about how the NFL gives the AFC East teams 11 draft picks a year instead of 7 like they give everyone else."
Urban Meyer's Florida teams were the only SEC teams that won without the advantage of oversigning. There's a reason why Georgia and Florida are a lot like USC, Ohio State, Oregon, and Texas - very good most years, dominant occasionally, and sometimes rebuilding - while SEC west teams are not. The SEC East has all the same advantages the SEC west has - southern recruiting, big budgets for coaching staffs, huge fan bases, etc. - but is missing the biggest one, oversigning.
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Hawgfan said...
7 in a row dumb ass. Who cares who or how they did it.
Yes just cuz bama won it don't mean the whole conference won as well lol.. bama is a great team with a great coach but thats it, it has nothing to do with any one else in that conference. at the end of the day that crystal ball is going in the bama trophy room not to every SEC team.
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LegendaryuSo147699 said...
Yes just cuz bama won it don't mean the whole conference won as well lol.. bama is a great team with a great coach but thats it, it has nothing to do with any one else in that conference. at the end of the day that crystal ball is going in the bama trophy room not to every SEC team.
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devidee said...
Great point.
Coaches matter.
The SEC's current run is less about where defensive linemen grow on trees and much more about coaches.
And the practice of culling rosters. (But we're supposed to put that aside)
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drmiller166 said...
Saying "oversigning aside" is like saying "I know the AFC East has won the Super Bowl 7 consecutive years, but let's not talk about how the NFL gives the AFC East teams 11 draft picks a year instead of 7 like they give everyone else."
Urban Meyer's Florida teams were the only SEC teams that won without the advantage of oversigning. There's a reason why Georgia and Florida are a lot like USC, Ohio State, Oregon, and Texas - very good most years, dominant occasionally, and sometimes rebuilding - while SEC west teams are not. The SEC East has all the same advantages the SEC west has - southern recruiting, big budgets for coaching staffs, huge fan bases, etc. - but is missing the biggest one, oversigning.
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mfldbadgers said...
It helps Alabama that they over sign...lol. Stopping the SEC from over singing will bring them back to the same level as the rest of the conferences. The NCAA needs to make the recruiting rules uniform around the country.
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brem22 said...
So USC is the only school in the PAC that benefits from CA talent?
Proximity does matter. The difference is that recruiting services consistently underrate CA and Ohio talent and overrate LA or Miss talent *based on proximity*. Proximity to the state of FLA and proximity to... Alabama's campus?
This is proven over, and over, and over again, year in year out by how many more CA and Ohio players make it to the NFL.
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It's based on percentages and with 100-plus on a football team, a program is unlikely to face penalties as long as they don't suffer heavy academic losses- I mean like unprecedented.
Also, nice stereotype of players from the south. Ignorant cultural bias.
You're kidding me right? I heard the interviews with players from SEC schools and I know squirrels that have higher IQs.
Ignorance is bliss when you're living through rose colored glasses marred by athletic performances.
Did you hear Lacy after the game???
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It's based on percentages and with 100-plus on a football team, a program is unlikely to face penalties as long as they don't suffer heavy academic losses- I mean like unprecedented.
Also, nice stereotype of players from the south. Ignorant cultural bias.
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brem22 said...
I just don't follow how any self-respecting Bama fan would go along with this pandering SEC narrative...
It's Bama and the 13 dwarfs. No team in CFB comes close. Bama vs GA last night would have been the same smoke show. Bama vs aTm 2? Same. Fool Saban once and savor the experience... Because it ain't happening again.
What OOC team could possibly compete with Mizzou, Arky, Kentucky, Ole Piss, MSU, Aubie, or Vandy?
ATM/FLA/COCKS... Good teams, but come on. They are nowhere near Bammy level. And they are not a 'cut above' any other major's top teams. Not on the field and not on paper.
Multiple top OOC teams have the talent to beat any team in the SEC not named Alabama. And that includes ND.
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