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  • To add to my thought, our defense was top 30 in the country with the same personnel the year before, so don't give me any of the "it was bad players" talk. It was the horrible defensive scheme.

    This post was edited by Resurgent Vol on 2/9/2013 at 1:34 PM

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  • JC Shurburtt said...

    I personally couldn't include UGA even though I know what you are saying. It was critical that they hit their numbers this cycle and they did. They also enrolled 13 players early that will help them maybe as early as next season in some cases.

    They still missed on every single head to head battle on NSD I believe... which was one of the aforementioned criteria in your OP.

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  • CoachGomez214591 said...

    I'm really not sure how people can say Miami. Yes, we didn't sign Reggie White and Jerome Brown. HOWEVER, we got Olsen, Muhammad, Coley, Burns. We only gave out 17 schollies as Golden restricted visits and offers. We've set ourselves up for whatever the NCAA lays down and EVERYBODY knows it's not gonna be that bad. Keep praying if you think that way. Yeah, we struck out on Collins, Bostwick and Thomas. AND WE FINISHED 17TH. If we land those three are we top 10??? If we did, then that's one of the best recruiting jobs in the history of football with looming sanctions (every school rumor this against us) and coming off back to back 6-6 and 7-5 seasons.

    Seriously. 17th with all that shit going on??? Not that bad.

    Frightening what Golden is gonna do when the smoke has cleared (pun intended) and these freshmen from last year and the year before grow up a bit.

    One decent win this year and the days of the entire SEC going down to the 305 and taking who they want are over... We'll take whoever we want from here on out... that's of course the ones that can actually enroll in Miami.

    You keep saying if....but you didn't so IF means nothing. You whiffed completely on your biggest need which was DT. You signed....zero.

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  • rsfields31 said...

    Yeah that seemed to work out well with Bray, Da'rick, Hunter, and Patterson

    Don't forget they all played for one of the worst coaches ever to coach at Tennessee.

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  • bogeyman14 said...

    Uga Oklahoma and Texas not getting 1 24\7 5 star is kinda hard to believe.

    The 13 EEs were the splash, take a close look at those 32 kids signed again.

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    Disasters
    Penn St
    Miami
    Tennessee

    Not a disaster but expect better in such talent rich areas.
    Texas
    FSUe
    South Car

    lol if PSU's class was a disaster. With the #1 QB, I'll take disaster any day.

    And as for the Rutgers 2012 class discussion, only reason they did anything is because Penn State's staff screwed up so many recruitments.

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  • phillip740il said...

    easy. you missed on a ton of kids in your area and then compounded it by pissing off a local high school coach in a very public and embarrassing manner. the lack of miami area recruits in your class is astounding. you only took 4 guys from miami and its surrounding counties in your class. we took the same amount as you did and USF also took 4. thats piss poor recruiting of the area you guys primarily rely on.

    Not to mention getting out maneuvered for Bostwick by the Gators who signed 4 DT's!

    1. Miami
    2. UTjr
    3. UT
    4. USCw
    5. Missouri

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  • jjjate79 said...

    Not to mention getting out maneuvered for Bostwick by the Gators who signed 4 DT's!

    1. Miami 2. UTjr 3. UT 4. USCw 5. Missouri

    Hate to agree with the Gator but dude you are right this was a nightmare of a recruiting season as I have seen in all my years as a Cane fan. I hope we have a Great year cause we will need it to keep the momentum for us. I am so glad the Basketball team is having the Success its having cause that truly is a Positive amongst all the negativiity for Miami.

    Add to that and the new facilities we have some pluses going on, I really feel Stacy Coley will be a Dynamic player this year for Miami but losing Bostwick was more damaging than losing Matthew Thomas in my eyes that guy is a true stud.

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  • phillip740il said...

    Texas - mack cant recruit anymore. lost a ton of instate guys

    miami - threat of sanctions are killing them but still should get more than they did. getting stacey coley was the only thing that saved them from a disastrous signing day

    UGA - perception that they cant get instate kids hurts them badly. bama, auburn, clemson, and others all came in and cherrypicked kids out of their state.

    USC - kiffin is a douche and really made a fool of homself and they paid for it. also an embarassing end to the season kicked them hard

    FSU's OL recruiting - we needed at least 6 players and ended up with only three and we whiffed on some high profile targets

    I think UGA' EE's will really give them an advantage, despite what some people like to admit..
    They have had 5* players in the past that didn't even materialize as much as their 4* folks whose 'game' was elevated..simply by their work ethic and coaching staff..
    They have proven to be able to make great players out of what others might call 'no good..
    The fact that they came close to winning the SECC against the tide speaks for itself..
    We didn't see the FL, SC teams in that position.. They were not even in the mix-
    I also think LSU will make good w/ what they have..
    They may not have the EE's, but their huge time mgmt. errors in their match up w/ Clemson put them in the embarrassing category.. They'll make up for the image 'Blemish'.. You watch-!
    all IMHO~

    This post was edited by Itchin on 2/9/2013 at 6:35 PM

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  • IrishMarley said...

    USC

    You are obsessed with SC dude...... It takes us being on sanctions spearheaded by that ginger Associate Ad of yours ,Conboy, to even compete with us. Go have phone relations w Lennay. What does that say about your fine University that a returning All-American and future 1st round draft pick would rather have phone sex w a man than date the chicks in South Bend- pathetic
    Fight On!

    This post was edited by MDubSC on 2/9/2013 at 7:58 PM

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  • MDubSC said...

    You are obsessed with SC dude...... It takes us being on sanctions spearheaded by that ginger Associate Ad of yours ,Conboy, to even compete with us. Go have phone relations w Lennay. What does that say about your fine University that a returning All-American and future 1st round draft pick would rather have phone sex w a man than date the chicks in South Bend- pathetic
    Fight On!

    Lol Jesus calm down it wasn't a knock. You guys really did have a crappy recruiting cycle. You're saying you didn't?

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  • tired said...

    I just remember that one year JC where they had 3 or 4 top notch recruits commit during the army all-American game and I was like whoa They are going to be top notch for good.

    Most of those guys ended up being players if I recall.

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  • star69 said...

    Watched the CBSSN Signing Day special today and Mack said this was his best offensive class in a long time.roflmao By the way saw 247Sports blasted the entire time with your ranking I believe. Why was Lemming in the studio instead of someone representing 247? Lemming get the nod for having better tv personality or looks?shrug Miami, Texas, West Virgina, and BC come to mind.

    Gerry was on the CBSSports.com live stream. Our partnership is just getting started and didn't become official until some of the CBSSN plans were made.

    Maybe it was looks, who knows :-)

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  • star69 said...

    Are you saying Muhammad won't get into Miami? What's the deal with his academic situation? I know we couldn't take him due to grades/classes. Did Miami sign him just to place him in JUCO?

    He's not a definite NQ. Nobody really is unless it's just hopeless.

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  • VaHorn said...

    Texas got their first pick at quarterback. Whether they chose wisely remains to be seen. They looked at adding a second quarterback late in the game (after Harsin left), but did not pursue either candidate very seriously. Not the actions of the school that desperately needs another quarterback. May have been obvious to you, but you're not making the choices.

    Not up to me. You are right. I hope Swoopes wins the Heisman. He's a good kid.

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  • weGO said...

    Tennessee.

    Well if you are basing it on Vonn Bell, Joshua Dobbs was a much more important recruit.

    The running back recruiting situation there baffles me. You've got a favorable depth chart, a guy that's a great recruiter on these prospects in Jay Graham, etc. Other schools are signing two, sometimes three or four backs. I don't get it.

    Of course that means they will probably get Jalen Hurd in 2014.

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  • BuddyHolly said...

    With J Heard committed for 2014 we actually didnt need one for this year's class.

    You need a bunch of help there.

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  • ColaChiver said...

    They still missed on every single head to head battle on NSD I believe... which was one of the aforementioned criteria in your OP.

    Yeah but everybody knew going into NSD they were not getting Kamara/Foster/Adams. I guess losing the kid they just offered to Virginia should be considered.

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    I said FSUe because when you get out-recruited by a school who has
    Lane Kiffin as their coach, and a team that is restricted to 15 scholarships instead of 25
    on top of having Kiffin, then it's an obvious fail for Jumbo.

    Either using this site's rankings
    USC 13 (4 & 5 star recruits)
    FSUe 10 (4 & 5 star recruits)

    or using Espin's rankings
    USC 9 (espn top 150)
    FSU 7 (espn top 150)

    Either way you slice it, SC signed more "on paper" big time recruits than Florida St did.
    Sad that FSUe has fallen so far that even USC on the 2nd harshest recruiting restrictions in
    the history of college football, signs more quality talent at the top than Florida St did.

    Plus FSUe's 2nd highest rated recruit is almost guaranteed to be a bust, at least
    that's what many of the Florida St posters were preaching when he was a USC commit,
    so maybe SC got lucky when Jillen Ramey flipped to the Noles. Maybe, we'll see.

    Damn FSU only had Ten 4/5* recruits?

    That's crazy.. We led the nation with 20 4* recruits and one 5* (Tre' White).. Just surprised FSU only got 10

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  • Lesticals said...

    Damn FSU only had Ten 4/5* recruits?

    That's crazy.. We led the nation with 20 4* recruits and one 5* (Tre' White).. Just surprised FSU only got 10

    depends where you look. rivals has us with 2 5*s and 9 4*s. espn has us with 1 5* and 13 4*s.

    we took a couple fliers on guys who dont really have positions so they get dinged with a 3star rating. plus weve got some developmental guys like our TE who isnt rated high since hes a blocker and will grow into an OT most likely. it happens. trust me i thought we were going to really limp across the finishline about 3 weeks ago but we finished strong. you go lose 6 coaches in a 40 day period and tell me how you end up.

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  • JC Shurburtt said...

    You need a bunch of help there.

    Again, it is silly to criticize Texas for not filling their needs at quarterback when they were not attempting to fill any needs at quarterback apart from the QB that they signed very early in the process. It was always destined to be a small class.

    Out of curiosity, were you one of the people that rated Gilbert for Rivals?

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  • You add the 2010-2013 classes together for Miami and they should be terrified. Not sure how that team will fair next year but it will have as much filler as any Cane team ever has next year.

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    I said FSUe because when you get out-recruited by a school who has Lane Kiffin as their coach, and a team that is restricted to 15 scholarships instead of 25 on top of having Kiffin, then it's an obvious fail for Jumbo.

    Either using this site's rankings USC 13 (4 & 5 star recruits) FSUe 10 (4 & 5 star recruits)

    or using Espin's rankings USC 9 (espn top 150) FSU 7 (espn top 150)

    Either way you slice it, SC signed more "on paper" big time recruits than Florida St did. Sad that FSUe has fallen so far that even USC on the 2nd harshest recruiting restrictions in the history of college football, signs more quality talent at the top than Florida St did.

    Plus FSUe's 2nd highest rated recruit is almost guaranteed to be a bust, at least that's what many of the Florida St posters were preaching when he was a USC commit, so maybe SC got lucky when Jillen Ramey flipped to the Noles. Maybe, we'll see.

    This post is stupid for a number of reasons

    Mainly the fact that USCw almost always out-recruits FSU every single season

    Facts are USCw still sucks, FSUe doesn't offend any Nole fan and Jimbo and company are in a much better position that Lane Kiffin ever will be moving forward

    USCw will be terrible next season, struggle to make a bowl game... but I still bet they sign a better class than FSU on paper again, doesn't matter though... it never does

    Its why USCw has never beaten FSU, not once... ever!

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  • CoachGomez214591 said...

    They have the number 1 backing with Nike in their back pocket...

    Wait, what??? It seems like you're suggesting that Oregon has some sort of beneficial relationship with Nike??? What's the connection, and where are you hearing this?

    I dont know what your sources are, but it seems to me you should have some actual facts before you indict an institution based upon supposition and innuendo.

    This post was edited by ftlaudcock on 2/10/2013 at 12:14 AM

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    This post is stupid for a number of reasons

    Mainly the fact that USCw almost always out-recruits FSU every single season

    Facts are USCw still sucks, FSUe doesn't offend any Nole fan and Jimbo and company are in a much better position that Lane Kiffin ever will be moving forward

    USCw will be terrible next season, struggle to make a bowl game... but I still bet they sign a better class than FSU on paper again, doesn't matter though... it never does

    Its why USCw has never beaten FSU, not once... ever!

    Well, I see that Nova agrees with me about USC pulling in a better class.

    I guess you guys had a lot of coaching turnover, so maybe that is FSUe problem.

    Yup, you got us 2-0 in the head to head. If you guys hadn't have spent all those years as Female State U. maybe they would have played more than 2 games.
    Maybe Jimbob will clear some of the heavyweights like Bill Murray St and Savannah St off the schedule to play SC.

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