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Well, I see that Nova agrees with me about USC pulling in a better class.
I guess you guys had a lot of coaching turnover, so maybe that is FSUe problem.
Yup, you got us 2-0 in the head to head. If you guys hadn't have spent all those years as Female State U. maybe they would have played more than 2 games. Maybe Jimbob will clear some of the heavyweights like Bill Murray St and Savannah St off the schedule to play SC.
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Scheduling a terrible USCw squad does nothing for schedule strength so I doubt it, you can't even beat the ACC runner ups who were only the runner ups cause two schools that were better couldn't play in the ACC title game
So really the 4th place ACC team beat USCw down
You also don't have a better class, its simply ranked higher which means close to nothing
USCw will always pull higher rated kids, they compete with nobody out west
Meanwhile FSU has to fight off SEC powers and two in state rivals for kids, much harder to do
Lane quit and ran out west cause he couldn't handle it
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You can do better than this.
Laughing at your focal point being a pointless bowl game that nobody cares about. You say it all the time how worthless these bowl games are, now you want to act like the GaTech game meant something. Get real.
Besides when it meant something, FSUe barely squeaked by GT 21-15 and UNC got blown out 68-40 by GT, so let's not exaggerate things.
Judging by how you barely beat Tech, I would have liked USC's chances against FSUe with Barkley playing, and SC sucked last year.
Maybe one of these days those southern teams you play will step up their game and stop getting dominated by western teams.
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This whole post is just failure, I guess you are still mad that I predicted how bad USCw would be this season
And yes, I remember you getting pissed off and telling me how this would be an easy national title for the Trojans
I outed you as a moron on this board a long time ago, yet still you try to get at me with " FSUe " and whatever other failures at humor you can muster up
I never acted like losing to GT meant anything either, Im just using it as proof that USCw sucked and will suck again next year seeing as how your QB of the future can't even salvage a win against middle of the pack ACC teams
Lolz at Barkley playing against FSU gives you a chance, FSU's DL would send that pussy to the hospital by halftime if not sooner
Enjoy going 6-6 next year with 20+ 5 stars on the roster

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Like I said, Im not trying to convince you
The people that matter are convinced, lolz at calling it very good but not elite
What is the difference ?
When we look back in 5 years we will know that at least 20+ players went on to the NFL off that defense
It ranked top 5 in nearly every category despite losing two senior all american starters for the whole season before week 2
It ranked #1 in pass defense despite losing an All American 5 star senior CB before the year even started, #3 in rush defense despite losing a 5 star DT and All American DE before the season started, #6 in scoring defense, #2 in total defense ( despite playing almost 100 more plays than Bama's defense.... again, proof that FSU's offense hurt FSU's D whereas Bama's offense helped its defense )
If that isn't your definition of elite then please explain to me what is
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Elite defenses don't give up 245 yards of rushing, almost 400 total yards, over 50% conversion on 3rd down, and 5 scoring drives of at least 9 plus plays / 50 plus yards at home to their rival.
Guess it wasn't just the offenses fault. Huh.
Bowling Green, La-Lafayette, D1aa Jax St., and Louisville all held Florida under 28 pts.
Big difference between very good and elite. Like I said, best defense of the past decade was USC 2008, Alabama is right up there too.
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Hate to agree with the Gator but dude you are right this was a nightmare of a recruiting season as I have seen in all my years as a Cane fan. I hope we have a Great year cause we will need it to keep the momentum for us. I am so glad the Basketball team is having the Success its having cause that truly is a Positive amongst all the negativiity for Miami.
Add to that and the new facilities we have some pluses going on, I really feel Stacy Coley will be a Dynamic player this year for Miami but losing Bostwick was more damaging than losing Matthew Thomas in my eyes that guy is a true stud.
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easy. you missed on a ton of kids in your area and then compounded it by pissing off a local high school coach in a very public and embarrassing manner. the lack of miami area recruits in your class is astounding. you only took 4 guys from miami and its surrounding counties in your class. we took the same amount as you did and USF also took 4. thats piss poor recruiting of the area you guys primarily rely on.
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I disagree with you. YES, we missed out on DT's which were of the number 1 priority for us, but that being said, a football team has multiple positions. You think if you just have good DT's you beat teams like NC State? LOL...there's my jab.. You had PHENOMENAL DT's and lost to a terrible team.
I love the BTW thing. WHO GIVES A SHIT??? You're right, there's no other schools in Dade and Broward that are any good to recruit from. STA, Central, Northwestern, Carol City, University School, Homestead, Norland, etc etc etc...
Recruiting your home base is important, yes, but finished 17th with limited scholarships and visits. That's a BIG win to me.
Don't worry, Khiari Clark is ours next year or do you want us to sign 18 5 star DT's to fulfill our requirement???
You just hate us cause were Miami. If this were flipped, I would say FSU did damn good. Look how I defended how you did earlier in this thread. I thought you guys had a GREAT class and rightfully so. To say Miami was the biggest loser is ridiculous. If that's the case, then what's said for number's 18 and up???
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It is to a degree, but other sites rank it much worse and the bottom line is Miami missed on many prospects
Only signed 4 kids from the south florida area which is downright insane and something I never thought I would see
And the DL needs weren't addressed at all
With almost certain scholarship reductions in the future, Miami needs to stop missing on big name talent from its own backyard.... plain and simple
If I was a Miami fan calling this class a disaster wouldn't even describe it, although I would be happy that they landed some studs it wouldn't outweigh the fact they missed on many others that they shouldn't of imo
The best part of Miami's class imo is they likely found a QB for the future and he doesn't have to come in and start right away, this was huge and at the very worst will at least guarantee the fact Miami won't be too terrible moving forward for a QB is a very important position obviously
If Olsen doesn't pan out, then we are looking at possibly the worst Miami recruiting class of all time
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One thing I can say as I've seen him live twice is Olsen is a stud. He's REALLY slow, but he can chuck it like no other when he's healthy and I saw him his junior year.
But here's my biggest question, what kids from the Miami area should we have gotten? Was it a down year in south florida??? Ok, Bostwick, Collins, Thomas, Kirkland, Rashard Robinson?, Mackensie Alexander?, not sure who else.... It doesn't seem to me like the rest of the country raided south florida this year. I could be wrong, but I dunno...
I'm probably not so sure bc I don't follow kids that Miami doesn't offer, so there could be a whole boat load out there...
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The list is long
But mostly the kids you mentioned, and Bryant should have been all Canes based on needs and the fact you shouldn't let the top kids get away, some will always get away..... but 6 or 7+ is too many
Golden made a lot of mistakes this past year, my favorite is making Alexander " earn " his offer which was stupid and pissed him off.... and I loved how he showed up to camp, dominated and then walked out without talking to your staff and then never talked to Miami again
Kirkland wasn't a huge miss imo but here is how I view the others
Thomas = best LB to come out of south florida in awhile, lost him to instate rival
Collins = needed an elite back to compliment Duke, replaced him with a FB from New York... ouch!
Bostwick = without question the best DT in Florida, and the country imo.... lost him last second to instate rival
Bryant = a very good DT who you lost to instate rival
Robinson = very good DB, lost to the SEC without much of a fight despite trying to get a foot in the door late ? where the hell was Miami's staff all year on this one ? nobody knows
Bosa = didn't even get serious looks from this kid
These are some serious misses by Miami, and its a no brainer Golden revamped his staff to address the misses in south florida
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yeah, the gus edwards thing is awful. Look, my apartment stares at the Statue of Liberty and past that is Staten Island and I can SMELL how bad the football is there. I mean, it's downright horrid, so Edwards is no win in that situation.
So confused about the Bosa thing... Why didn't they offer him and his little brother is the white version of Reggie white. So WTF???
Bostwick pissed me off. I think if we just got Bosa and Bostwick I would've been happy... but Nova in your opinion, if we landed what we missed, where would our class rank?
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