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Why Have the 4 California AQ's dominated the Southern Region?

  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    Here since you are having trouble remembering

    Since 2000 - CA vs Current SEC teams =============================== UCLA 35, Alabama 24 UCLA 20, @Alabama 17 USC 24, Auburn 17 USC 23 @Auburn 0 Cal 45, Tennessee 31 (Tenn-SEC East Champs) @Tennessee 35, Cal 18 Cal 45, Texas A&M 10 UCLA 27, Tennessee 24 UCLA 19, @Tennessee 15 USC 70, Arkansas 17 USC 50, @Arkansas 14 (Ark-SEC West Champs) ======================================= CA (10-1) 91%

    Avg Game Score CA - 34.2 ppg SEC- 18.5 ppg ================= CA MOV = +15.7 ppg

    How many Natty's did the PAC 10/12 play in or win the last two decades? Hmm, guess it doesn't matter in the end.

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  • Lesticals said...

    I don't care.. LSU absolutely has owned the Pac the last 30 years

    This is true. You have beat the hell out of Oregon St.

    But LSU is 1-2 against California AQ schools, actually 1-4 if you count the beatdowns Santa Clara put on
    LSU in 2 Sugar Bowls. lol

    NcaaAssassinG13 ●

  • Macdaddy7930 said...

    How many Natty's did the PAC 10/12 play in or win the last two decades? Hmm, guess it doesn't matter in the end.


    Since 1998 (when your bcs took over) the PAC 10/12 has had 1 more season than the SEC has had with at least 1 team having the same record of 1 of the 2 participants in the BCS MNCG. In other words, the Pac10/12 could have more championship game appearances than the SEC. But it's hard to win something when you aren't picked to play for it.

    NcaaAssassinG13 ●

  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    This is true. You have beat the hell out of Oregon St.

    But LSU is 1-2 against California AQ schools, actually 1-4 if you count the beatdowns Santa Clara put on LSU in 2 Sugar Bowls. lol

    All I know is LSU hasn't lost to the Pac since 1979 which is a fact.. I think LSU is 15-0 since '79.. I honestly don't care about how we fared against the Pac before that.. Nor do I care about the '70s, '80s or '90s.. Because recruits sure as hell don't care

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  • Well FSU owns the four California schools, and yes I am counting the Cal game that the NCAA took away

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    duvalnole

  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    Since 1998 (when your bcs took over) the PAC 10/12 has had 1 more season than the SEC has had with at least 1 team having the same record of 1 of the 2 participants in the BCS MNCG. In other words, the Pac10/12 could have more championship game appearances than the SEC. But it's hard to win something when you aren't picked to play for it.

    We took the BCS over is right!? We've owned it the last six years. At least you're starting to realize your place in CFB. The PAC 10/12 has every opportunity to play in the same game we do, but consistently manage to come up short.

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  • Macdaddy7930 said...

    We took the BCS over is right!? We've owned it the last six years. At least you're starting to realize your place in CFB. The PAC 10/12 has every opportunity to play in the same game we do, but consistently manage to come up short.


    No - you created the BCS, therefore you own it. And no the Big 10 and Pac12 don't get the same opportunity to play in the BCS NCG as everybody else. If the Pac did they wouldn't have been picked for the game only 3 of 11 times they had team that could have been picked. The SEC has been picked 9 of the 10 times they could have been picked. The only thing that comes up short is your corrupt system, but you need a corrupt system in order to win, which was a smart move by the "powers that be" in the south considering the beatings the California schools have administered over the years to the SEC.

    NcaaAssassinG13 ●

  • duvalnole said...

    Well FSU owns the four California schools, and yes I am counting the Cal game that the NCAA took away


    You guys played Cal? When was that?

    FSUe is 3-0 vs SC & UCLA though.

    Too bad FSUe was scared to give USC a re-match after USC became elite again. After all, SC played you guys when they were pretty average and you were elite. Bummer for the fans that the Seminoles turned down USC's offer to play another home and home series.

    NcaaAssassinG13 ●

  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    You guys played Cal? When was that?

    FSUe is 3-0 vs SC & UCLA though.

    Too bad FSUe was scared to give USC a re-match after USC became elite again. After all, SC played you guys when they were pretty average and you were elite. Bummer for the fans that the Seminoles turned down USC's offer to play another home and home series.

    We cannot help it that USC was down when we played y'all, because I am sure when the games were scheduled USC was a good team. Also where is the proof that FSU turned USC down for another home and home

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    No - you created the BCS, therefore you own it. And no the Big 10 and Pac12 don't get the same opportunity to play in the BCS NCG as everybody else. If the Pac did they wouldn't have been picked for the game only 3 of 11 times they had team that could have been picked. The SEC has been picked 9 of the 10 times they could have been picked. The only thing that comes up short is your corrupt system, but you need a corrupt system in order to win, which was a smart move by the "powers that be" in the south considering the beatings the California schools have administered over the years to the SEC.

    As I recall, the SEC and ACC have wanted a playoff since '08 and other conferences declined. Guess you can blame your own conference and teams for failing to bring a natty home for the PAC 12.

    What's your excuse for Oregon getting beat by AU?

    Your tears of jelly are sweet.

    This post was edited by Macdaddy7930 on 12/21/2012 at 12:37 AM

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  • bhiley77 said...

    Which Cali teams would beat any top half SEC teams IYO?

    None, but we all know that. This guy will never admit it though.

    He should have made this thread like 8 years ago.

    getmyjive11

  • bhiley77 said...

    Which Cali teams would beat any top half SEC teams IYO?


    Well, there's no reason not to think that Stanford, UCLA,
    and even USC would beat several of them. You can scream
    transitive property argument all you want, but I'm not saying who
    would beat who based on what score, just that these on field
    performances against avg to below avg teams shows vulnerability.

    If the top half SEC teams were that good then they wouldn't have
    struggled so much with the Tennessee's, Vanderbilt's, Missouri's,
    La-Lafayette's and La Tech's of the world.

    South Car 17, Vanderbilt 13
    Florida 31, Vanderbilt 17 (Nwestern 23, Vandy 13) Nwestern 42, Syracuse 41.

    South Car 38, Tenn 35
    South Car 35, Georgia 7
    Georgia 51, Tenn 44 (Missouri 51, Tenn 48) Syracuse 31, Missouri 27.

    Florida 14, Missouri 7
    Missouri 24, Arizona St 20 (USC 38, Arizona St 17) USC 42, Syracuse 29.

    A&M 30, Ole Miss 27
    LSU 41, Ole Miss 35 (Texas 66, Ole Miss 31) Texas 41, OK State 36.

    Florida 27, Bowling Green 14
    Florida 44, South Carolina 11
    Florida 27, La-Lafayette 20 (OK State 65, La-Lafayette 24) Arizona 59, OK State 38.

    A&M 29, Alabama 24
    A&M 59, La Tech 57 (La Tech 56, Houston 49) UCLA 37, Houston 6.

    Here's a few other fun ones
    LSU 12, Auburn 10
    Georgia 29, Kentucky 24
    Miss State 30, Troy 24

    It's college football, anything can happen -
    unless you don't schedule any tough OOC opponents on the road.

    NcaaAssassinG13 ●

  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    Well, there's no reason not to think that Stanford, UCLA, and even USC would beat several of them. You can scream transitive property argument all you want, but I'm not saying who would beat who based on what score, just that these on field performances against avg to below avg teams shows vulnerability.

    If the top half SEC teams were that good then they wouldn't have struggled so much with the Tennessee's, Vanderbilt's, Missouri's, La-Lafayette's and La Tech's of the world.

    South Car 17, Vanderbilt 13 Florida 31, Vanderbilt 17 (Nwestern 23, Vandy 13) Nwestern 42, Syracuse 41.

    South Car 38, Tenn 35 South Car 35, Georgia 7 Georgia 51, Tenn 44 (Missouri 51, Tenn 48) Syracuse 31, Missouri 27.

    Florida 14, Missouri 7 Missouri 24, Arizona St 20 (USC 38, Arizona St 17) USC 42, Syracuse 29.

    A&M 30, Ole Miss 27 LSU 41, Ole Miss 35 (Texas 66, Ole Miss 31) Texas 41, OK State 36.

    Florida 27, Bowling Green 14 Florida 44, South Carolina 11 Florida 27, La-Lafayette 20 (OK State 65, La-Lafayette 24) Arizona 59, OK State 38.

    A&M 29, Alabama 24 A&M 59, La Tech 57 (La Tech 56, Houston 49) UCLA 37, Houston 6.

    Here's a few other fun ones LSU 12, Auburn 10 Georgia 29, Kentucky 24 Miss State 30, Troy 24

    It's college football, anything can happen - unless you don't schedule any tough OOC opponents on the road.

    So your argument that the SEC teams would lose to those Cali teams is that... they beat inferior teams? lol GTFO of here with that BS. It's ridiculous.

    getmyjive11

  • getmyjive11 said...

    None, but we all know that. This guy will never admit it though.

    He should have made this thread like 8 years ago.

    Lulz - at 8 years ago comment

    Even since 2006, I fail to see the so-called separation between the SEC and the
    western teams from the PAC 12 and what was the MWC. Maybe they have beat up
    on the other regions and other conferences, but they have only been about .500
    against the big 2 conferences out West.

    If the PAC 12 had created the BCS and picked themselves for the NC game almost every year
    like the SEC, then the PAC 12 would have had their chances to win 7 or 8 MNC's as well. I don't
    believe hype and what Espin tries to sell me, I believe what the results from the games played tell me.

    2006-2012 vs PAC 12 & MWC
    SEC (14-13) Overall
    SEC (6-9) in games between 2 winning teams.
    ====================================

    Georgia lost to Colorado 29-27
    Georgia beat Colorado 14-13
    Georgia lost to Boise St 35-21
    Georgia beat ASU 27-10
    Georgia beat ASU 20-17
    Texas A&M lost to Cal 45-10
    Tennessee lost to Wyoming 13-7
    Tennessee beat Air Force 31-30
    Tennessee lost to Cal 45-31
    Tennessee beat Cal 35-18
    Tennessee lost to UCLA 27-24
    Tennessee lost to UCLA 19-15
    Tennessee lost to Oregon 48-13
    Ole Miss lost to BYU 14-13
    Missouri lost to Oregon St 39-38
    Missouri beat San Diego St 27-24
    Missouri lost to ASU 37-30
    Missouri beat ASU 24-20
    Alabama beat Colorado 30-24
    Alabama lost to Utah 31-17
    Auburn beat Washington St 40-14
    Auburn beat Oregon 22-19
    Arkansas lost to USC 50-14
    LSU beat Arizona 45-3
    LSU beat Oregon 40-27
    LSU beat Washington 31-23
    LSU beat Washington 41-3

    Florida - No games
    Vandy - No games
    Kentucky - No games
    Miss State-No games
    South Car - No games

    FYI -before anyone complains about Missouri & A&M being included,
    their 2-3 record is balanced out by Colorado's 1-2 record that was also included,
    so instead of 14-13 you would have 10-9 = same difference.

    NcaaAssassinG13 ●

  • getmyjive11 said...

    The only thing I know for sure is that the Ca. AQ4 would behind Bama, Florida, aTm, LSU and Georgia this year. Fact.

    lollollol

    Crimson_Ghost

  • bhiley77 said...

    Bump.

    Stanford for sure. Stanford vs Bama would be a good game though.

    Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

    MJRuffalo

  • good work as usual assassin. Very informative, and objective.

    Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

    MJRuffalo

  • MJRuffalo said...

    good work as usual assassin. Very informative, and objective.

    multiple hours of research < one word

    CRYSTAL !!!!

    Crimson_Ghost

  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    Lulz -
    Even since 2006, I fail to see the so-called separation between the SEC and the western teams from the PAC 12 and what was the MWC.

    when Achilles & the Mrymidon are called upon.....

    since 1992
    "The Big West Two" region schools have played in two NCG's winning one (vacated 04' via BushGate). while the "Southern Two" (SEC & ACC) region schools have played in 17 NC's winning 12 National Titles.

    Bowl Coalition (92-94)
    West Two = zero
    Southern Region = 3 app (2NC's)

    Bowl Alliance (95-97)
    West Two = zero
    Southern region = 3 app (1 NC)

    BCS ERA (98-current)
    West Two = 2 app (1 vacated NC)
    Southern region = 12 app. with #13 on deck in Miami (10 NC's)

    numbers are numbers right ? coffee

    Crimson_Ghost

  • Crimson_Ghost said...

    when Achilles & the Mrymidon are called upon.....

    since 1992 "The Big West Two" region schools have played in two NCG's winning one (vacated 04' via BushGate). while the "Southern Two" (SEC & ACC) region schools have played in 17 NC's winning 12 National Titles.

    Bowl Coalition (92-94) West Two = zero Southern Region = 3 app (2NC's)

    Bowl Alliance (95-97) West Two = zero Southern region = 3 app (1 NC)

    BCS ERA (98-current) West Two = 2 app (1 vacated NC) Southern region = 12 app. with #13 on deck in Miami (10 NC's)

    numbers are numbers right ?

    Or you could use the right numbers, right. confused

    Since 1990
    =========
    Split titles in 90 & 91
    1990 - COLORADO..............GA TECH (ACC)
    1991 - WASHINGTON...........MIAMI (Big East)

    Teams with legitimate claims for a MNC that year in all CAPITAL Letters.
    Teams shutout from the chance or teams that did play for MNC & lost in lower case.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1992 - ..................................ALABAMA (SEC).....beat miami (Big East)
    1993 -...................................................................FSU(Acc) beat neb-ND beat atm
    1994 -colorado.....................................................NEB beat miami (B.East)- PENN ST
    1995 -...................................................................NEB (Big 8) beat florida (SEC)
    1996 -ARIZONA ST L to OSU FLORIDA (SEC).....beat FSU (Acc)
    1997 -.....................................tenn(SEC).............lost to NEBRASKA - MICHIGAN

    1998 - ucla, arizona...............TENN (SEC)............beat florida St (ACC)[ohio st, wisc]
    1999 - ...................................................................FSU (ACC) beat va tech (Big East)
    2000 - wash, oreg St.............................................OKLAHOMA beat fsu (ACC) [miami]
    2001 - oregon,colorado................,........................MIAMI (B.East) beat nebraska (Big12)
    2002 - ...................................................................OHIO ST (B1G) beat miami (Big East)
    2003 - USC............................LSU (SEC)...............beat oklahoma (Big 12)
    2004 - USC............................AUBURN (SEC)........oklahoma (Big 12) lost to USC
    2005 - usc lost to...................................................TEXAS (Big 12)
    2006 - BOISE ST...................FLORIDA (SEC).......beat ohio St (B1G) [michigan]
    2007 - USC............................LSU (SEC)...............beat ohio St (B1G) [GEORGIA]
    2008 - USC, UTAH.................FLORIDA (SEC).......beat ou (Big12)- [TEXAS-tx.tech-penn st]
    2009 - BOISE ST...................ALABAMA (SEC)......beat texas (Big12)- [cincinnati-tcu]
    2010 - TCU............................AUBURN (SEC)........beat oregon (PAC)
    2011 - stanford.....................ALABAMA (SEC).......beat lsu(SEC)-[OK STATE]
    =============================================================

    =========
    1990-2011
    =========

    SEC
    ------
    SEC has won 10 MNC's out of 12 they played for
    SEC could be considered to have won 11 MNC
    SEC could have played for 13 MNC
    SEC was shutout of chance to play for MNC 1 time. (2004-Auburn)
    ====================================================

    Rest of South region
    --------------------------
    ACC/Big East South won 5 MNC's out of 11 they played for.
    ACC/Big East South could be considered to have won 6 MNC
    ACC/Big East South could have played for 11 MNC
    ACC/Big East South was not* shutout of the chance to play for MNC.
    ======================================================
    *2000 Miami would have been considered shutout, but when another
    team from same region fills that spot it nullifies the snub.

    PAC/West
    -------------
    PAC/West won 4 MNC's out of 7 they played for
    PAC/West could be considered to have won 10 MNC
    PAC/West could have played for 16 MNC
    PAC/West was shutout of the chance to play for MNC 9 times
    ================================================

    NcaaAssassinG13 ●

  • cant speak for everyone but the cal AQ hasnt been good against FSU. we are 3-0 versus them all time
    2-0 vs USC
    1-0 vs UCLA
    never played stanford or Cal

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...
    "SEC has won 10 NC's out of 12 they played for , SEC could be considered to have won 11 NC. " no

    violin

    real numbers since 92' .....West Region = 1 NC (vacated*)
    we were not discussing Top 10 Finalist.

    pi=x if y = 4th thru 10th

    This post was edited by Crimson_Ghost on 12/23/2012 at 7:51 AM

    Crimson_Ghost

  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    No - you created the BCS, therefore you own it. And no the Big 10 and Pac12 don't get the same opportunity to play in the BCS NCG as everybody else. If the Pac did they wouldn't have been picked for the game only 3 of 11 times they had team that could have been picked. The SEC has been picked 9 of the 10 times they could have been picked. The only thing that comes up short is your corrupt system, but you need a corrupt system in order to win, which was a smart move by the "powers that be" in the south considering the beatings the California schools have administered over the years to the SEC.

    So, out of those 3 BCSCGs you got in, how many crystal balls does the conference have?

    Zero.

    I guess when cheating doesn't work, just forget about losing and blame the system.

    You're right though, we own this sh!t and the folks on the left coast are too stupid to do anything about it.

    Dance puppets!

    BetterOff

  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    No - you created the BCS, therefore you own it. And no the Big 10 and Pac12 don't get the same opportunity to play in the BCS NCG as everybody else. If the Pac did they wouldn't have been picked for the game only 3 of 11 times they had team that could have been picked. The SEC has been picked 9 of the 10 times they could have been picked. The only thing that comes up short is your corrupt system, but you need a corrupt system in order to win, which was a smart move by the "powers that be" in the south considering the beatings the California schools have administered over the years to the SEC.

    How did all those dumb southern rednecks outsmart the smart west coast intellegentsia?

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    No - you created the BCS, therefore you own it. And no the Big 10 and Pac12 don't get the same opportunity to play in the BCS NCG as everybody else. If the Pac did they wouldn't have been picked for the game only 3 of 11 times

    pi,
    just so you know you dont "get picked" you play your way into a 1 v 2 NC showdown.

    "picked".. lol

    Crimson_Ghost

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