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Why a rematch is unfair to LSU.

  • sf2k4 said...

    Laugh it up, I don't give a shit. LSU beat us and I've been nothing but a gracious loser this whole time. But AU fans need to shut their damn mouths.

    Its funny that you shitheads can talk all day about how Auburn sucks, but when we offer a fair analysis of the game, we are wearing O&B pajamas and are biased.

    Sorry, you are dead wrong.

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  • Only Auburn fans whining about a possible rematch. I love it! Shows the typical Auburn fan is still taking the little brother roll again even after winning a national tiltle. I have a LSU freind and ex player telling me how great it would be to play again and see if one of the teams can win in regulation. Most LSU fans that I have talked to would love to see a rematch, I guess most people who know and understand the game get it. Mos AU fans just dont get it and never will.

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  • Bamaradar said...

    Only Auburn fans whining about a possible rematch. I love it! Shows the typical Auburn fan is still taking the little brother roll again even after winning a national tiltle. I have a LSU freind and ex player telling me how great it would be to play again and see if one of the teams can win in regulation. Most LSU fans that I have talked to would love to see a rematch, I guess most people who know and understand the game get it. Mos AU fans just dont get it and never will.

    I'm no Auburn supporter but no way in hell do I want to see a rematch of that boring ass game. Spare me the " you don't get it" analogy. There are two teams who can pass the ball and who put up winning worthy points on LSU. They had no D. LSU has 2 teams in their potential future who have both a higher rated offense than Bama and a higher rated D than Oregon and West Va.

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  • Bamaradar said...

    Only Auburn fans whining about a possible rematch. I love it! Shows the typical Auburn fan is still taking the little brother roll again even after winning a national tiltle. I have a LSU freind and ex player telling me how great it would be to play again and see if one of the teams can win in regulation. Most LSU fans that I have talked to would love to see a rematch, I guess most people who know and understand the game get it. Mos AU fans just dont get it and never will.

    No- the rest of the nation does not want a rematch either.

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  • wild pony714 said...

    I'm no Auburn supporter but no way in hell do I want to see a rematch of that boring ass game. Spare me the " you don't get it" analogy. There are two teams who can pass the ball and who put up winning worthy points on LSU. They had no D. LSU has 2 teams in their potential future who have both a higher rated offense than Bama and a higher rated D than Oregon and West Va.

    LSU would beat Oklahoma St by 21 or 28. You have to have a defense and running game to beat them. OSU has neither. Stanford, we'll see. I don't watch enough of them to know.

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  • I don't, I wanna watch LSU vs Stanford or OSU

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  • aumajorpain said...

    They would have to beat Alabama twice to be the champs, when Alabama can win once and be the champs... Not fair. No re-match.

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  • ErnieMcCracken said...

    No- the rest of the nation does not want a rematch either.

    It really doesn't matter what the nation wants to see. I know I could care less. It's what the computers say on Dec 6th is all that matters. I don't care if the only 2 states that tune in for it is Alabama and Lousiana. I'll take it. As would you or anyone else if it was your team.

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  • I don't think we necessarily deserve a rematch, but if things play out that put us in that position, I don't think there's another team that can claim they deserve to be in that particular game any more than we can.

    ASBamaguy

  • Dreadnought said...

    LSU would beat Oklahoma St by 21 or 28. You have to have a defense and running game to beat them. OSU has neither. Stanford, we'll see. I don't watch enough of them to know.

    Funny but I wasn't even talking about OSU or Stanford.

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  • I'm not one who thinks we deserve a rematch (especially if there are other unbeatens out there) but to the OP's "fairness" argument......... would it still be "unfair" to LSU if we were to tie up with them again if it were a "playoff" scenario? Afterall, they would still have to beat us twice to win the title with UA only having to win once. Just curious as to your thoughts on this.

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  • IDK...

    I'm looking at Boise and yeah..I know they aren't playing anyone week in week out ..but damn,who's lining up to play them? Everytime they play someone ( BCS conf big boy) they freaking win. So unless they just squeak by a team or win on a fluke ..and keep stompin out the teams they play ..

    They handed UGA ( who's OK) their worst loss ..better than any SEC UGA played yet..all the way across the nation at UGA's house..blew them away really.. it was a 14 point win that felt more like a 21 point win .

    I wouldn't expect BSU to get in there over 1 loss Bama ..but after what I have seen from them and other non BCS programs running the table ( utah.BSU.TCU etc) ..and then being slighted.. and just kicking ass and beating up on BCS conf teams in the bowls. It's pretty hard to just write them off.

    I expect BSU to get written off anyways...( basically this is where ESPN/ABC pulls strings behind te scenes as they have their "voters" who have say in the polls, everyone knows they don't want BSU..or a small school in a title game over a 1 loss traditional power..theres no money in that).

    Playoffs anyone?

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by icky trojan on 11/7/2011 at 12:17 AM

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  • icky trojan said...

    IDK...

    I'm looking at Boise and yeah..I know they aren't playing anyone week in week out ..but damn,who's lining up to play them? Everytime they play someone ( BCS conf big boy) they freaking win. So unless they just squeak by a team or win on a fluke ..and keep stompin out the teams they play ..

    They handed UGA ( who's OK) their worst loss ..better than any SEC UGA played yet..all the way across the nation at UGA's house..blew them away really.. it was a 14 point win that felt more like a 21 point win .

    I wouldn't expect BSU to get in there over 1 loss Bama ..but after what I have seen from them and other non BCS programs running the table ( utah.BSU.TCU etc) ..and then being slighted.. and just kicking ass and beating up on BCS conf teams in the bowls. It's pretty hard to just write them off.

    I expect BSU to get written off anyways...( basically this is where ESPN/ABC pulls strings behind te scenes as they have their "voters" who have say in the polls, everyone knows they don't want BSU..or a small school in a title game over a 1 loss traditional power..theres no money in that).

    Playoffs anyone?

    I concur. Boise beat us way worse than the score indicated. Of course we are a much different team now, and I'm not sure the results would be similar, but that does not matter they got a blow out win and deservedly so. I think that they deserve their shot to either prove themselves or shut up vs. LSU if LSU wins out and Stanford and Oklahoma St. lose 1.

    Although I believe Alabama may be the best or 2nd best team in the country, that does not matter. They had their shot at home and blew it. The BCSNCG has never been about getting the two best teams to play against each other, don't kid yourself by that logic. I believe Alabama was hands down better than Auburn last year, but they stunk it up at home and let Auburn come back. Auburn deserved the NC then, not Bama. It's not about whose best, its about who wins, and who gets the media's nod.

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  • Dreadnought said...

    LSU won a NC in 2007 with 2 losses. Nothing is unfair in college football. ****Les Miles is my daddy*******

    And both of those losses were in overtime. One of them was to a Kentucky team that finished 8-5.

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  • Again, the only large group of people that are whining about the fairness of a re-match is Auburn fans. I just find it funny that it bothers them that much, you should hear them on the radio today, its hilarious. Bottom line, there is a lot of football to left to be played and all this whining may be for no reason at all. Fact is LSU and Alabama are obviously in a league to themself this year and some rivals are having a hard time accepting it. Let the chips fall where they may at the end of the season.

    Bamaradar

  • Fairness has nothing to do with the best two teams in the nation being placed in the same division of the same conference.

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  • Bamaradar said...

    Again, the only large group of people that are whining about the fairness of a re-match is Auburn fans. I just find it funny that it bothers them that much, you should hear them on the radio today, its hilarious. Bottom line, there is a lot of football to left to be played and all this whining may be for no reason at all. Fact is LSU and Alabama are obviously in a league to themself this year and some rivals are having a hard time accepting it. Let the chips fall where they may at the end of the season.

    Don't you think that the majority of the Bama Nation would be saying the same thing if the shoe was on the other foot? Not necessarily you, but the fan base in general. I think that a big part of both fan bases is that they not only want to beat each other, but want the other team to not do well. Just my [two cents]

    I do agree that the two teams seem to be a step above the competition this year, which makes it a much more intriguing scenario. But as you say, much more FB to be played. It could look completely different on Dec. 6.

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  • I agree that it may not be "fair" for us to get the rematch against LSU but y'all can't blame us for rooting for it to happen. If it was your team, you would be doing the same thing. If Stanford and OSU loses then I think we should get another shot. If LSU loses to Arkansas (which I don't think will happen) then I think we should get another shot. Luck has to be on our side, but that has been the case for nearly every NC in the past.

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  • Bamaradar said...

    Again, the only large group of people that are whining about the fairness of a re-match is Auburn fans. I just find it funny that it bothers them that much, you should hear them on the radio today, its hilarious. Bottom line, there is a lot of football to left to be played and all this whining may be for no reason at all. Fact is LSU and Alabama are obviously in a league to themself this year and some rivals are having a hard time accepting it. Let the chips fall where they may at the end of the season.

    When you get a chance, please post the research you did to arrive at "the only large group of people that are whining about the fairness of a re-match is Auburn fans". I'm kinda feeling like you just made that up.

    Sports Nation on ESPN.com has the poll question "How do you feel about a potential rematch?"
    42% don't want it
    35% want it
    27% don't care
    23,000+ votes

    The Dan Patrick show had the poll question "Do you want to see a rematch?"
    83.5% - No
    16.5% - Yes

    CBSSports.com has "Would a rematch between LSU and Alabama be legit?"
    56% - No
    44% - Yes

    PS. I didn't want to see an Ohio State vs Michigan rematch in 2006 either. Unless Alabama ends up as the only 1-loss team in the country, then I just don't want to see a team who had a shot at #1 at home get another shot for the title when other teams are "in line" for their shot. Whether it be OU or Oklahoma St or Stanford or whoever. If Alabama ends up the only 1-loss team, then sure, give them another shot. But if not, I want to see someone else get their chance.

    This post was edited by jadennis on 11/7/2011 at 1:36 PM

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  • BAMAfavored said...

    I agree that it may not be "fair" for us to get the rematch against LSU but y'all can't blame us for rooting for it to happen. If it was your team, you would be doing the same thing. If Stanford and OSU loses then I think we should get another shot. If LSU loses to Arkansas (which I don't think will happen) then I think we should get another shot. Luck has to be on our side, but that has been the case for nearly every NC in the past.

    I think talk of a rematch is completely normal. Alabama is now #3 in the BCS and 7 of the Top 10 BCS teams will play another Top 10 team in the next three weeks. We're a long way from things being over, so a rematch is still very much a possibility.

    As for you hoping for it, that's completely normal too. Every fan of every team should constantly be figuring out how to get into the title game until it's impossible. I would expect Arkansas fans to be thinking about beating LSU, having Auburn beat Alabama, make it to the SEC title game and beat Georgia (or whoever) and find their way into the BCS title game against Stanford (or whoever).

    But I think the majority of college football fans are going to think that since we don't have a playoff, it really doesn't make a lot of sense to let the same team get a shot at #1 two times when other teams sit it out and don't get a shot at all.

    Let's say LSU finishes undefeated and Stanford, Alabama, Oklahoma, Clemson, Oregon, and Oklahoma State all finish with one loss. In my opinion (and I think most other fans) I don't think Oregon or Alabama should get another shot at LSU with a title on the line. I would want to see Stanford, OU, Clemson, or OSU get a shot. Again, without a playoff, letting one team get two shots at beating #1 seems like a waste of an opportunity to let another deserving team get their chance.

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  • First, I'll say I don't want to see a rematch.

    When I first read the OP, it made sense. However, I think the illogical part is saying that LSU "had" to beat Alabama twice. Let's speculate and say that LSU lost...wouldn't they be in the same position Alabama is in? So I don't think that's true...LSU could have lost and then won again and been MNC's, just like Alabama might have the chance to.

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  • psubills62 said...

    First, I'll say I don't want to see a rematch.

    When I first read the OP, it made sense. However, I think the illogical part is saying that LSU "had" to beat Alabama twice. Let's speculate and say that LSU lost...wouldn't they be in the same position Alabama is in? So I don't think that's true...LSU could have lost and then won again and been MNC's, just like Alabama might have the chance to.

    I don't think the logic is specific to LSU. Had Alabama won then the logic would also say that LSU shouldn't get a rematch. Because in that case, Alabama would have to beat LSU twice to win the title, and LSU would be in position to go 1-1 against Alabama to win the title.

    No matter who the two teams are, the team that wins the first game will have to beat the other team twice to win the title, whereas the loser of game one can go 1-1 against the other team, yet win the title. CFN's logic is that a rematch is never fair to the winner of the first game.

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  • jadennis said...

    I don't think the logic is specific to LSU. Had Alabama won then the logic would also say that LSU shouldn't get a rematch. Because in that case, Alabama would have to beat LSU twice to win the title, and LSU would be in position to go 1-1 against Alabama to win the title.

    No matter who the two teams are, the team that wins the first game will have to beat the other team twice to win the title, whereas the loser of game one can go 1-1 against the other team, yet win the title. CFN's logic is that a rematch is never fair to the winner of the first game.

    I really want to agree...but wouldn't the same logic apply to conference championships? Obviously Bama and LSU won't meet there, but theoretically speaking, if we were talking about Bama and Florida as the two best schools and they ended up meeting in the SEC championship as well...should they just say, well we can't have a rematch because that's not fair to the previous winner?

    Like I said, I don't want to see a rematch. I'm just not quite sold on the logic of it yet.

    At this point I'll have to pretend it really is a "12 game playoff" or whatever crap the BCS spews to rationalize their existence. LSU moves on, Bama doesn't.

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  • jadennis said...

    I don't think the logic is specific to LSU. Had Alabama won then the logic would also say that LSU shouldn't get a rematch. Because in that case, Alabama would have to beat LSU twice to win the title, and LSU would be in position to go 1-1 against Alabama to win the title.

    No matter who the two teams are, the team that wins the first game will have to beat the other team twice to win the title, whereas the loser of game one can go 1-1 against the other team, yet win the title. CFN's logic is that a rematch is never fair to the winner of the first game.

    if that's true. then the SECCG is flawed as well. take 1999, for instance, Bama beat UF in OT off of a missed XP during the regular season. Following CFN's logic, Bama shouldn't have to play UF again in the SECCG since they already beat them. (Bama went on the beat UF 35-7 in the SECCG)

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  • jadennis said...

    When you get a chance, please post the research you did to arrive at "the only large group of people that are whining about the fairness of a re-match is Auburn fans". I'm kinda feeling like you just made that up.

    Sports Nation on ESPN.com has the poll question "How do you feel about a potential rematch?" 42% don't want it 35% want it 27% don't care 23,000+ votes

    The Dan Patrick show had the poll question "Do you want to see a rematch?" 83.5% - No 16.5% - Yes

    CBSSports.com has "Would a rematch between LSU and Alabama be legit?" 56% - No 44% - Yes

    PS. I didn't want to see an Ohio State vs Michigan rematch in 2006 either. Unless Alabama ends up as the only 1-loss team in the country, then I just don't want to see a team who had a shot at #1 at home get another shot for the title when other teams are "in line" for their shot. Whether it be OU or Oklahoma St or Stanford or whoever. If Alabama ends up the only 1-loss team, then sure, give them another shot. But if not, I want to see someone else get their chance.

    A deafening blow to Bamaradar.

    Bama doesn't deserve a "rematch." They got spanked in their own house.

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