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BetterOff said...
The range from 4-8 in academic in most categories. Princeton/Yale/Harvard have been on top for a while. Then MIT, U of Chicago, and Columbia have been ahead of Stanford in some as well. I think US News has them 6 or 7 at the moment. Still amazing academics and the only other FBS program almost as high is Duke.
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BetterOff said...
Just from their 2-deep along the front 7:
Skov, Thomas, Brown, Murphy, Gardner, Lancaster, Debniak, Stepehens, and Mauro.
If you add Amanam (secondary), that's 6/9 top tacklers, 6/7 TFL, and 8/9 sack leaders.
When their identity on defense has been stopping the run and their pass rush, that's a lot to lose, IMO.
Don't think they will suck, but more than 8 wins could be a tall order as well.
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Texas Lion said...
Didn't you justify your assertion that the Big East was as good as the Big 12 because of the Big 12's performance in bowl games? And that I was wrong to go off of the eye test when judging the two conferences?
As to the OP, because Hogan is good, their OL is dominant and mostly intact, and because Ertz their TE is a JR. And I really like David Shaw.
I don't see them as a #1 team, but they could be top 10 IMO. They're helped by Kelly most likely leaving and USC having Kiffen as a HC.
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BamaBornDukie said...
-Scheme diverse and can give you a lot of looks due to the cerebral acumen of the players and their ability to absorb more schemes/plays. Sure, you say....heck Duke, and all the Ivy's have high cerebral acumen players and it doesn't do much for them. TRUE....but Stanford is also recruiting very good 3 & 4 star players that have the physical ability to go with the high cerebral acumen
If Shaw stays at Stanford, I think they win a BCS National Championship by 2016 as the program has maintained even without Harbaugh and Luck and will trend upward....especially once Chip Kelly leaves Oregon for the NFL.
******I'd highly recommend any RBs with the aptitude to be admitted to Stanford academically and the talent to be recruited by their football staff......to give them a serious look as that OLine will be NASTY in 2014 & 2015*****
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BetterOff said...
Don't remember if I did. When did I do that?
I think that I may have made the point about a conference as a whole based on bowl performances, but I would judge one team based of it. With conferences, you can have a trend. If there is enough of a trend, it can possibly be true. With single games, I don't look too much into it.
Take Penn St and OU (as I think you are a fan of both). Last year, Penn St was a wreck going in the bowl season. Easily was a better team than they showed. Look back to the Fiesta Bowl when Boise beat OU. I don't put a lot of stock in one game because so many teams take and prepare for bowl games differently.
If a conference as a whole goes 6-2 or so than yes, that probably says something. If one goes 2-6 or something like that, likewise. Mainly I don't remember the entire conversation, but that is kind of my philosophy.
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Texas Lion said...
I'll have to go back and find it later on today. I'm driving out to the mountain for my last day of skiing, but when I get a chance I'll look for it.
I understand, just remembered the equating of the Big 12 and the Big East and thought that was a bit extreme.
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The range from 4-8 in academic in most categories. Princeton/Yale/Harvard have been on top for a while. Then MIT, U of Chicago, and Columbia have been ahead of Stanford in some as well. I think US News has them 6 or 7 at the moment. Still amazing academics and the only other FBS program almost as high is Duke.
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BetterOff said...
For everyone so high on Stanford, why do you feel that way? For one, their showing against an average at best Wisconsin team makes me wonder. Now, I don't put a ton of stock in bowl games, but I would have also thought that Wisconsin would be a team that would completely play to Stanford's stengths as well.
Also, they lose 80% of their carries from the RB position, 88% of their receiving yards, 6 of their top 9 tacklers, 6 of their top 7 tacklers behind the LOS, and 8 of their top 9 sack guys.
For a team that relied on their running game, TE's, and front 7, they are just about all gone completely.
I like them a lot and think the program is in great shape, but I think next year could be a bit of a growing year for them as well. They have a great foundation to build on with their QB and the youth of their OL, but at the skill positions and alond the defensive front, everyone is just about gone. This was one of the more veteran teams in the country. To me, they had the perfect storm this season, minus a veteran QB. If Luck would have been there, we would probably be watching #1 Stanford vs. #2 Alabama Monday night.
Love what Carr is doing out there, but I just think some people haven't looked to see what the roster will look like next year along with their schedule.
OOC- @Army, San Jose St, and Notre Dame
Army and San Jose St are wins, but I feel Notre Dame is probably a loss, IMO.
They have a tough draw in conference, with probably the 3 toughest teams from the South in USC, UCLA, and Arizona St (Arizona could be in that mix with some improvement on defense of course).
Home PAC schedule- ASU, Cal, Oregon, UCLA, Washington
Away PAC schedule- OSU, USC, Utah, Washington St.Oregon and UCLA will be tough wins. ASU, Washington, and OSU won't be pushovers either. USC may be down, but who knows what they will look like actually and at Utah isn't a given either.
I could easily see an 8-4 season being the median for them with 7-5 or 9-3 possibilities as well, but I just don't see 10 or 11 wins next year for them.
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Why are people so high on Stanford?