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Why do YOU hate liberalism?

  • brem22 said...

    I am a registered republican, but it's really meaningless at this point. I believe in the economics but I cannot fathom anything as idiotic as neocons or the religious right.

    My real word experience with liberal democrats is what soured me so much on the party. I went to school with Barbara Boxer's kids and Diane Feinstein's kids and know Nancy Pelosi's offspring well. I grew up with their families. The latter two are LOADED. If you opened their tax returns I'd guarantee you their avg tax rates would be lower than Romney's. Feinstein's husband runs a hedge fund for chrissakes. And Pelosi has made MILLIONS off of legal insider trading. And yet these are the same people that are crowing about "Wall Street reform" and going after Romney's Bain record. And just how many people in the Treasury are former Goldman Sachs partners? It's shameless.

    A 3rd party is definitely needed but no idea how it could ever possibly gain traction. And FWIW I don't think you're generalizing.

    Gonna take a moment here to plug Gary Johnson. His platform is:

    - cut spending by 43% (eliminate the deficit by cutting spending)
    - get out of Afghanistan and Iraq (thus cutting spending, see point 1)
    - legalize and tax marijuana
    - free criminals in jail with a petty marijuana charge (violent offenders obviously stay in jail)
    - consolidate all taxes into 1, fair tax (so no social security tax, medicare tax, income tax, property tax, etc. you just pay 1 tax)
    - separation of church and state
    - gay marriage is legalized on a state by state basis
    - close gitmo

    and others. Awesome candidate, IMO.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    Gonna take a moment here to plug Gary Johnson. His platform is:

    - cut spending by 43% (eliminate the deficit by cutting spending)
    - get out of Afghanistan and Iraq (thus cutting spending, see point 1)
    - legalize and tax marijuana
    - free criminals in jail with a petty marijuana charge (violent offenders obviously stay in jail)
    - consolidate all taxes into 1, fair tax (so no social security tax, medicare tax, income tax, property tax, etc. you just pay 1 tax)
    - separation of church and state
    - gay marriage is legalized on a state by state basis
    - close gitmo

    and others. Awesome candidate, IMO.

    Johnson is like Paul for me. Some things I can agree on, but he goes way too far on others and I couldn't vote for him knowing that if some get implemented, so do the rest.

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  • Jesus was a Liberal. That's enough for me.

    alley_bammer

  • alley_bammer said...

    Jesus was a Liberal. That's enough for me.

    By todays standard he would be conservative, good try.

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    Lebron James will never be as good as Michael Jordan, thus we should get rid of his nickname, "The King".

    amrollZ71

  • amrollZ71 said...

    By todays standard he would be conservative, good try.

    Yeah I bet, what with his walking around and giving away free health care...huh

    ramssuperbowl99

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Johnson is like Paul for me. Some things I can agree on, but he goes way too far on others and I couldn't vote for him knowing that if some get implemented, so do the rest.

    Which Johnson platforms do you disagree with? Just curious.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • amrollZ71 said...

    By todays standard he would be conservative, good try.

    yes because jesus would let the poor die of lack of health care and starve to death in the streets ..

    horned_lurker

  • amrollZ71 said...

    By todays standard he would be conservative, good try.

    I don't know... from all the photos he looks like a hippie to me

    brem22

  • horned_lurker said...

    yes because jesus would let the poor die of lack of health care and starve to death in the streets ..

    http://bobbiblogger.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/poor.jpg?w=468

    Ahh republican jesus. One of my favorite memes.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    Gonna take a moment here to plug Gary Johnson. His platform is:

    - cut spending by 43% (eliminate the deficit by cutting spending) - get out of Afghanistan and Iraq (thus cutting spending, see point 1) - legalize and tax marijuana - free criminals in jail with a petty marijuana charge (violent offenders obviously stay in jail) - consolidate all taxes into 1, fair tax (so no social security tax, medicare tax, income tax, property tax, etc. you just pay 1 tax) - separation of church and state - gay marriage is legalized on a state by state basis - close gitmo

    and others. Awesome candidate, IMO.

    He sounds a little to radical for my tastes, frankly. Or rather, simplistic. If the cause is social I'm as liberal or rather libertarian as it gets - so I'm with him. But flat taxation is rife with problems, as is starting a shit storm in the Middle East and just walking away at this juncture. Bottom line is nothing that he wants would ever sniff getting passed so he'd be lame duck before even taken office.

    brem22

  • horned_lurker said...

    yes because jesus would let the poor die of lack of health care and starve to death in the streets ..

    Not even worth trying to explain it. If anyone thinks Jesus aligns more with liberals than conservatives(in the modern sense) they are beyond reason...thus being a liberal.

    Edit:To be fair he would be independent IMO. Just because I think liberals are incredibly dumb doesnt mean I believe he is 100% gung ho republican

    This post was edited by amrollZ71 on 10/9/2012 at 5:43 PM

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  • Reasons to hate liberals:
    1) They like to blame america first!
    2) Blame the rich for all social ill.
    3) When that doesn't work blame it on people who go to church on Sundays.
    Even the president tried to blame a terrorist attack on a you tube video cuz it was made by a christian. He also thought he could get away with it cuz the sorry ass media wouldn't ? It.

    lestat

  • Conservative Jesus feeding the masses Loaves and Fish for $9.95 a head, with approved credit.

    alley_bammer

  • Conservative Jesus says "you can take my AK-47 but you'll have to pry my cold dead finders from it and remove the nail from the trigger hole."

    alley_bammer

  • brem22 said...

    He sounds a little to radical for my tastes, frankly. Or rather, simplistic. If the cause is social I'm as liberal or rather libertarian as it gets - so I'm with him. But flat taxation is rife with problems, as is starting a shit storm in the Middle East and just walking away at this juncture. Bottom line is nothing that he wants would ever sniff getting passed so he'd be lame duck before even taken office.

    He's not for flat taxation.

    http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer

    ramssuperbowl99

  • amrollZ71 said...

    Not even worth trying to explain it. If anyone thinks Jesus aligns more with liberals than conservatives(in the modern sense) they are beyond reason...thus being a liberal.

    Edit:To be fair he would be independent IMO. Just because I think liberals are incredibly dumb doesnt mean I believe he is 100% gung ho republican

    No. Please do explain. If Jesus actually was a conservative, you have a commandment straight from god to explain/evangelize.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • Conservative Jesus with his fancy car, starched shirt, and exclusive Country Club. LOL

    alley_bammer

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    Which Johnson platforms do you disagree with? Just curious.

    Taxes,gun rights and healthcare are three platforms I wholly disagree with. Some platforms I disagree with to a degree: energy and the environment, civil liberties, education, spending and the deficit. Platforms I mostly or wholly agree with: drug policy reform, immigration, and Internet and technology.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Taxes,gun rights and healthcare are three platforms I wholly disagree with. Some platforms I disagree with to a degree: energy and the environment, civil liberties, education, spending and the deficit. Platforms I mostly or wholly agree with: drug policy reform, immigration, and Internet and technology.

    Sorry to be a jackass, but could you elaborate on some/all? Saying 'taxes' is too general for me to develop any understanding.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    He's not for flat taxation.

    http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer

    Ah, sorry misread. Can't really tell on my phone though... Is this like the national sales tax thing?

    This post was edited by brem22 on 10/9/2012 at 6:33 PM

    brem22

  • brem22 said...

    Ah, sorry misread. Can't really tell in my phone though... Is this like the national sales tax thing?

    Read into it. IMO, it's a fresh approach to taxation.

    And no worries on the misread. Happens to the best of us!

    ramssuperbowl99

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    Sorry to be a jackass, but could you elaborate on some/all? Saying 'taxes' is too general for me to develop any understanding.

    Basically just going on the very general platforms he has listed on his website.

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  • I hate liberals because everything they do seems to undermine the power and wealth of the United States. They have no desire to keep this country great, in fact they hate the fact it is and will argue to the death that this country is not a great country. If a group of people do not have the best interest if the country at heart they shouldn't be running it.

    I am willing to debate topics like healthcare and so forth, but I could never support a democrat knowing that they don't like this country. They just don't, they claim they do when it's convenient but then will turn around and bash everything about this country, hell they have been telling is for years how awful the founding fathers are. Lol.

    I just can't support that.

    TroyTide

  • TroyTide said...

    I hate liberals because everything they do seems to undermine the power and wealth of the United States. They have no desire to keep this country great, in fact they hate the fact it is and will argue to the death that this country is not a great country. If a group of people do not have the best interest if the country at heart they shouldn't be running it.

    I am willing to debate topics like healthcare and so forth, but I could never support a democrat knowing that they don't like this country. They just don't, they claim they do when it's convenient but then will turn around and bash everything about this country, hell they have been telling is for years how awful the founding fathers are. Lol.

    I just can't support that.

    Neocons are hella crazy.

    ReasonableDoubt

  • TroyTide said...

    I hate liberals because everything they do seems to undermine the power and wealth of the United States. They have no desire to keep this country great, in fact they hate the fact it is and will argue to the death that this country is not a great country. If a group of people do not have the best interest if the country at heart they shouldn't be running it.

    I am willing to debate topics like healthcare and so forth, but I could never support a democrat knowing that they don't like this country. They just don't, they claim they do when it's convenient but then will turn around and bash everything about this country, hell they have been telling is for years how awful the founding fathers are. Lol.

    I just can't support that.

    This is news to me. Odd.

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