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Why im not excited for this season...

  • Aside from our OL being a bad joke, here is a write up on Manuel that nails it and really hits home for me

    I have zero faith in EJ, i gotta be honest with myself

    He will choke or get hurt, like he always does come game time

    His doochy little arm sleeve from the spring game was my last straw and this article just reminded me how bitch this kid is with the lights on

    Ugh.... ( slits wrists )

    EJ Manuel isn't making excuses for a mediocre 2011 season. In fact, Manuel is shouldering more than his share of the blame for last year's disappointments, and he's gearing up to ensure there won't be a repeat performance, as we wrote earlier this week.

    But just because Manuel doesn't want to make excuses doesn't mean they don't exist. In fact, few quarterbacks in the country dealt with quite as much adversity as Manuel did last year.

    "The guys around him -- he had a different offensive line, a different receiver set, a different running back group," Jimbo Fisher said. "It's not an excuse, and you have to learn through that, but it's part of the confidence level because a quarterback has to trust."

    There wasn't much Manuel could trust last year. Florida State's offensive line coughed up more sacks than anyone in the conference, and Manuel was dropped 29 times in 10 games against FBS opponents. Meanwhile, the running game never really got off the ground, and FSU finished 104th nationally in rushing yards.

    That's a lot for any quarterback to overcome, so it's no surprise that Manuel, who also played a sizable portion of the season with a shoulder injury, wasn't able to put it all together last year.

    But here's the question: How much have those problems really affected Manuel over his career? Is he right to avoid the excuses?

    Looking back through the numbers, Manuel has played in 17 career games against an FBS opponent in which he has thrown at least 10 passes. He has a career record of 11-5 in those games, has completed 66 percent of his passes, averaged 205 yards per game through the air and thrown 16 touchdowns with 15 interceptions.

    Those are decent numbers, though probably well below the standard Manuel has set for himself -- and perhaps not quite where he'll need to be for FSU to win a national championship, even if the defense remains stout.

    What is surprising about Manuel's performance, however, is that he's remained remarkably consistent despite adverse circumstances.

    Check out Manuel's career numbers based on how many times he was sacked in a game:

    Stat 2 sacks or fewer 3 sacks or more
    Completion percentage 67% 65%
    Yards per game 198.7 213.3
    TD:INT ratio 8 TD, 11 INT 8 TD, 4 INT
    Wins-Losses 7-3 5-2

    (Note: Manuel has been sacked two times or fewer in 10 of his 17 starts.)

    He's definitely better when he's sacked less often, but the difference isn't enormous.

    Now take a look at how Manuel's performance has changed based on the success (or lack thereof) of Florida State's ground game:

    Stat 120 or fewer 121 or more
    Completion percentage 64% 69%
    Yards per game 197.1 211.4
    TD:INT ratio 7 TD, 9 INT 9 TD, 6 INT
    W-L 4-4 8-1

    (Note: FSU has rushed for more than 120 yards in nine of Manuel's 17 starts.)

    Again, Manuel is better when he has support from his rushers, but it's not a dramatic change.

    As you might expect, Manuel has battled through adverse circumstances about as well as could be expected during his tenure at Florida State, and these numbers are a testament to that.

    But if there's one stat that stands out here, it's probably the touchdown-to-interception ratios.

    It's not that Manuel isn't capable of putting up stats in a game in which he's had little support, it's that he knows the pressure is all on him to make things happen.

    The result is probably more completions and more yards than most quarterbacks might provide in those cases, but also more mistakes.

    Manuel believes he can be better this season, that he can iron out a number of small details and blossom into a premier college quarterback. Given his maturity and ability, there's a good chance that happens.

    But the biggest thing Florida State can do to improve offensively this season probably isn't to ask more of Manuel, but rather to ask less of him.

    This post was edited by LSUNoVa97443 on 8/4/2012 at 3:17 AM

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  • I gotta admit that I feel like FSU will not meet expectations that some have. Don't have a problem with FSU, but games like Wake Forest last year just seem to keep popping up where FSU is concerned. At least that's my perception of it.

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  • NoVa, you are the Japanese grounds crew of FSU football fans.

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    Deserve got nothing to do with it...

    MyNameIsMyName

  • Nova just kill yourself now. If you don't think the OL will be much improved their is no sense in telling you the sky is blue. as far as Manuel goes, his biggest problem is trusting his teammates and just thinking too much. kid has a great record though and comes through when he has too. Either way if things don't pan out this year, we can expect some changes to the staff

    cuznchips28

  • MyNameIsMyName said...

    NoVa, you are the Japanese grounds crew of FSU football fans.

    Not sure if funny? shrug

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    WillieMuffcramp

  • even w/ a soft-slate if the o-line doesnt improve FSU will be nowhwere near the Top 10 at years end .

    a decent record is likely because of the schedule & overall talent on the FSU roster but the wrong Bowl
    matchup could diminish the Noles hype / hope .

    Crimson_Ghost

  • Mr. Perfect said...

    I gotta admit that I feel like FSU will not meet expectations that some have.

    Not exactly going out on a limb, this is literally every year for FSU.

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    mac1992

  • In before the fsufsu/nova argument. popcorn

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    gocanes_10

  • gocanes_10 said...

    In before the fsufsu/nova argument. popcorn

    Lmao... Just waiting for fsufus... popcorn

    hurricanes01

  • Nova knows I feel the same way. EJ still has it all to prove.

    fsufsu

  • I'm excited because I just may be able to punch Nova in the fvcking face.

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  • cuznchips28 said...

    Nova just kill yourself now. If you don't think the OL will be much improved their is no sense in telling you the sky is blue. as far as Manuel goes, his biggest problem is trusting his teammates and just thinking too much. kid has a great record though and comes through when he has too. Either way if things don't pan out this year, we can expect some changes to the staff

    lol

    A great record ? Lolz.... No

    OL improve ? Ugh, you don't know that, you screamed at me for the last 2 years saying we had a good OL, so clearly you don't know shit about OL play

    Give it up Chips, you are nothing more than a homer child who doesn't know dick

    We aren't gonna be a great team with EJ at QB and a bunch of youngsters at OL, its just not gonna happen

    Injuries will happen and then we will be the same old FSU

    We might win 10 or 11 due to a pathetic schedule but this is not a good team

    Go ahead and think otherwise if you must, but im not falling for bullshit hope cause america thinks we have talent

    Without a QB you ain't shit and we ain't got one

    Go back and watch the spring game, EJ looked like total ass

    Free Coker!!!!!

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  • gobigblue21 said...

    Not exactly going out on a limb, this is literally every year for FSU.

    How is it every year? Stop watching ESPN bro... Last year and 2006 were the only seasons we were over ranked... A other years we fnished higher than we started... Last year everyone knew they were just hyping the OU game.

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  • I thought you were an EJ guy? Last season sour him for you?

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    Not guilty y'all got to feel me

    eastcoastghost

  • eastcoastghost said...

    I thought you were an EJ guy? Last season sour him for you?

    Honestly it was the spring game

    I had forgot about that until this article

    Then i went back and watched the SG and my god he was bad

    Clint and Coker are better than him, its obvious

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  • FSUTrackLove said...

    How is it every year? Stop watching ESPN bro... Last year and 2006 were the only seasons we were over ranked... A other years we fnished higher than we started... Last year everyone knew they were just hyping the OU game.

    Most ignore these truths cause they jelly of FSU and how much love we still get

    24 and under don't remember just how good we were thus they have no idea how good FSU can be thanks to location

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  • LSU-NoVa said...

    Honestly it was the spring game

    I had forgot about that until this article

    Then i went back and watched the SG and my god he was bad

    Clint and Coker are better than him, its obvious

    Man never thought the day would come where you would say Clint is better than EJ. Ive never been a huge EJ fan. Just so inconsistent. Just hoping the talent at the skill positions is enough to hide some of his flaws

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  • eastcoastghost said...

    Man never thought the day would come where you would say Clint is better than EJ. Ive never been a huge EJ fan. Just so inconsistent. Just hoping the talent at the skill positions is enough to hide some of his flaws

    They might be but the OL is gonna be bad

    I feel like Noles don't realize we are injury or 3 from playing guys like Faircloth and Pettis

    We have maybe 1 center and he is former 2 star with no offers and a true sophomore nonetheless

    This OL is a joke, sure the first 5 have potential but they are young and green and who says they play every game ? Not me, we sit kids for a month cause of a sore butt cheek

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  • LSU-NoVa said...

    Clint is better than him, its obvious

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  • LSU-NoVa said...

    They might be but the OL is gonna be bad

    I feel like Noles don't realize we are injury or 3 from playing guys like Faircloth and Pettis

    We have maybe 1 center and he is former 2 star with no offers and a true sophomore nonetheless

    This OL is a joke, sure the first 5 have potential but they are young and green and who says they play every game ? Not me, we sit kids for a month cause of a sore butt cheek

    Yeah, just gotta hope the injury bug doesnt hit us to hard on the OL this year. But, I know it will

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  • lol

    im warming up to Clint, just sucks that one hit could turn him into a cloud of dust

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  • Also, a lot of faith in a converted DT starting at LT. Sure hope hes up to the task

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    eastcoastghost

  • eastcoastghost said...

    Yeah, just gotta hope the injury bug doesnt hit us to hard on the OL this year. But, I know it will

    Sadly it doesn't even have to be bad, a few injuries could send us into big games with serious bums starting at OL

    Imagine losing say Matias and Barron for just one week..... What do we do ? Trickett will come up with some crazy shuffle and we will miss blocking assignments all day

    I can't believe what Trickett has done and it really pisses me off

    We had to move a solid DT over and he instantly became our best OL, that is so sad

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  • Completely unrelated, but I am really hoping Moody has a big year and stays healthy. Love the way he plays. Plus hes from Philly so I always root for him

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    Not guilty y'all got to feel me

    eastcoastghost

  • eastcoastghost said...

    Completely unrelated, but I am really hoping Moody has a big year and stays healthy. Love the way he plays. Plus hes from Philly so I always root for him

    Yeah im sweating bullets if we lose Smith and Hunter right now, all i can think about

    Losing Reid ? Don't care

    Losing Telvin and Tyler ? I quit.... Season lost

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