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Will the Religious Right Elect Mitt Romney?

  • TroyTide said...

    They were talking about it and they did in fact move it, looks like you didn't pay that close attention then or you would know that. Besides a 10 second Google search after my OP and you would have known when it was this year. Fact is I knew what I was talking about and you didn't.

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  • derp der derp derp...

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  • now that THAT's out of the way....

    will they elect him?

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  • DickMcJunkin said...

    now that THAT's out of the way....

    will they elect him?

    Congratulations young man. You've provided us with a couple of online resources and allowed a biased media to shape your worldview. Provide me with real resources and then ask the silly question. You look dumb and are too full of yourself to realize it. It's alot of fun for us grownups though, so thanks for that.

    To answer your question succinctly and cogently, the Religious Right (again, a media invented term and stereotype) will vote the gamut of candidates just like everyone else.

    I'd be shocked if Romney didn't win the nomination. Then, he'll have to clearly define what his agenda and distinctives are as a candidate w/o allowing the Obama machine to get to him or define him. IMO, it's Romney's Presidency to lose. But, Obama is very good in election mode. We'll see.

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  • The folks I know in that sector of the Right aren't thrilled with MR but would vote for him to get Obama out. They see it as the lesser of two evils.

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  • goodnews said...

    Congratulations young man. You've provided us with a couple of online resources and allowed a biased media to shape your worldview. Provide me with real resources and then ask the silly question. You look dumb and are too full of yourself to realize it. It's alot of fun for us grownups though, so thanks for that.

    To answer your question succinctly and cogently, the Religious Right (again, a media invented term and stereotype) will vote the gamut of candidates just like everyone else.

    I'd be shocked if Romney didn't win the nomination. Then, he'll have to clearly define what his agenda and distinctives are as a candidate w/o allowing the Obama machine to get to him or define him. IMO, it's Romney's Presidency to lose. But, Obama is very good in election mode. We'll see.

    ha ha ha...

    so condescending... ha ha ha... these "silly" online resources are well documented... but, then again, they aren't in the bible, right?

    the JackBoot Christians, The Religious Right, the Evangelical movement... the politicized christians... whatever you want to call it, old man, played a very large part in electing Bush...

    do you think they will mobilize behind Romney like they did behind Bush?

    ha ha ha... old peepoles are so smuarts

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  • goodnews said...

    Congratulations young man. You've provided us with a couple of online resources and allowed a biased media to shape your worldview. Provide me with real resources and then ask the silly question. You look dumb and are too full of yourself to realize it. It's alot of fun for us grownups though, so thanks for that.

    To answer your question succinctly and cogently, the Religious Right (again, a media invented term and stereotype) will vote the gamut of candidates just like everyone else.

    I'd be shocked if Romney didn't win the nomination. Then, he'll have to clearly define what his agenda and distinctives are as a candidate w/o allowing the Obama machine to get to him or define him. IMO, it's Romney's Presidency to lose. But, Obama is very good in election mode. We'll see.

    here is a christian source, you know... that says "religious right" and could, quite possibly, explain the how they work, you know, as a "fictitious" voting bloc...

    please, talk down to someone else... ha ha ha...

    or, tell the religious right that they don't exist.

    thanks

    Analysis of twelve major political religious voting blocs in America - Beliefnet.com

    The religious groups that comprise the U.S. electorate--and how they voted in 2004.

    www.beliefnet.com
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  • Romney won't get their base, their money, or their vote for the most part. The current President will spend his ad $$'s marginalizing Romney with the swing voters by attacking his personal wealth. Lots of money is bad....that's what BO says......of course he has lots too but that's different, right?

    wild pony714

  • wild pony714 said...

    Romney won't get their base, their money, or their vote for the most part. The current President will spend his ad $$'s marginalizing Romney with the swing voters by attacking his personal wealth. Lots of money is bad....that's what BO says......of course he has lots too but that's different, right?

    i think it is mostly different because it is easier to swing the hammer from the oval office...

    maybe also because "black" means "in touch with the poor" also

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  • DickMcJunkin said...

    ha ha ha...

    so condescending... ha ha ha... these "silly" online resources are well documented... but, then again, they aren't in the bible, right?

    the JackBoot Christians, The Religious Right, the Evangelical movement... the politicized christians... whatever you want to call it, old man, played a very large part in electing Bush...

    do you think they will mobilize behind Romney like they did behind Bush?

    ha ha ha... old peepoles are so smuarts

    Not condescending when you tell the truth. But since I hurt your feelings a little, causing you to feign being too cool for school, I won't point out your youth anymore. My bad. And no, they're not well documented sources, it's almost impossible to find that with online resources. To again answer your question, the Religious Right (if we're going to stick with that term) will back Romney just as vigorously, IMO, as they did Bush, if indeed Romney gets the nomination.

    BTW, I love the term "Jackboot Christians." That's new to me. The Anti-Christian movement is almost as created in their stupidity and vitriol as the racist Jim Crow types were.

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  • DickMcJunkin said...

    i think it is mostly different because it is easier to swing the hammer from the oval office...

    maybe also because "black" means "in touch with the poor" also

    Sure it is but Obama's ads will be very negative and focused on independents. PBO and his wife are no more "in touch" with poor folks than Donald Trump is.

    When the current Congress is half filled with long term entrenched millionaires and lazy asses with zero accountability and no repercussions for their bullshit, the election for President almost seems moot.

    I try to avoid incumbents. This election works for me.

    wild pony714

  • jandern3 said...

    How so? How do Romney's beliefs strongly differentiate from the beliefs of, say, a Methodist, Baptist, Lutheran or Catholic?

    You obviously know nothing about Mormonism. Here are just a couple differences:

    Good male Mormons believe they will be given their own planets to be God of.

    The most fundamental believe in polygamy and marrying girls as young as 14.

    Top 10 Amazing Facts of Mormonism

    http://www.worldviewweekend.com/worldview-times/article.php?articleid=1588

    www.worldviewweekend.com

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  • wild pony714 said...

    Romney won't get their base, their money, or their vote for the most part.

    Most important point of thread. Yeah, they will vote for him. But they won't volunteer to do the groundwork, they won't give as much money, and they won't be as involved as the political process which could hurt elections further down the ticket.

    Mormons have a great political machine as well, see Prop 8. But I don't think they can expand that success to a national level. Also it remains to be seem if Mormons will get as jacked by the culture war rhetoric as the fundies do.

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  • rms02d said...

    The religious right is most definitely a real phenomenon. To say otherwise is ignorant. The OP may have provided some questionable links, so maybe mine would be more acceptable for you.

    The Family Research Council is a "non-profit" lobbying group, that receives millions of dollars in untaxed donations, and then uses that money to manipulate elections and public policy.

    Check out their website

    http://www.focusonthefamily.com/socialissues.aspx

    It is run by James Dobson, one of his other projects is the Family Research Council.

    http://www.frc.org/

    I believe this is the group that paid for the Tim Tebow Abortion Commercial from the Super Bowl a few years ago.

    The book I have attached is called "Republican Gommorah". It is a very interesting read on how the "Religious Right" has developed, and how they influence elections. It is a well written book, and not "liberal slander". I can understand being wary of a couple of internet links. But if you read this book (400 pages of cited information) you might understand the the religious right has a huge impact on the American political system.

    The "Religious Right" isn't a "secret organization" with a supreme leader and organized agenda, but it is most definitely exists in a disaggregated form of individuals and separate groups with the same agenda.

    Of course, the fact that Christian groups form "Non-Profits" to use money to fund elections or lobbying doesn't make them any different than all the other special interest groups that own Congress.

    Logical post. But c'mon, we're supposed to accept as valid a publication entitled "Republican Gomorrah: Inside the Movement that Shattered a Party?" I don't deny that there are groups of individuals, who happen to be evangelical Christians, who have various lobby's. Of course that's true. We all fit into one kind of voting group or another whether we want to admit it or not. What I won't allow is the ignorant squeezing in, of a very large and diverse group if individuals, into a niche that is comfortable for others who really don't understand them or want to do so. I generally only post over here when I see a discussion is going to be void of fact and based on someone's ignorant ideas. I like to see debate occur correctly and factually, and I insist upon that for every kind of group or topic. The point is, the folks that the OP is labeling as the "religious right" should actually be referred to under dozens of different headings. To ask this question correctly one would say, "so, which of these many different groups, who could also fit under our notion of the 'religious right' is likely to vote for Romney." Then we could have a real discussion.

    Romney has just as much concern over the Christian left as he does the "religious right." But, if someone truly understands the "religious right" (still such a bad term b/c it generalizes a very large group of very diverse folks) then the obvious answer is a resounding yes, they will support Romney and in a robust fashion.

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  • goodnews said...

    Not condescending when you tell the truth. But since I hurt your feelings a little, causing you to feign being too cool for school, I won't point out your youth anymore. My bad. And no, they're not well documented sources, it's almost impossible to find that with online resources. To again answer your question, the Religious Right (if we're going to stick with that term) will back Romney just as vigorously, IMO, as they did Bush, if indeed Romney gets the nomination.

    BTW, I love the term "Jackboot Christians." That's new to me. The Anti-Christian movement is almost as created in their stupidity and vitriol as the racist Jim Crow types were.

    Has ha ha... Sorry 3 newspapers aren't good enough...

    Hoe did you make it to be that old, dumb a you are...

    Ha has ha hurry my feelings... It thinks it matters... You must be new here

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  • Im part of the "religious right" most would say as dumb and vague as that term is and I would vote for him because he is moderate enough to find some solidarity but conservative enough to implement changes the country needs.

    fsufsu

  • fsufsu said...

    Im part of the "religious right" most would say as dumb and vague as that term is and I would vote for him because he is moderate enough to find some solidarity but conservative enough to implement changes the country needs.

    +1

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  • goodnews said...

    Logical post. But c'mon, we're supposed to accept as valid a publication entitled "Republican Gomorrah: Inside the Movement that Shattered a Party?" I don't deny that there are groups of individuals, who happen to be evangelical Christians, who have various lobby's. Of course that's true. We all fit into one kind of voting group or another whether we want to admit it or not. What I won't allow is the ignorant squeezing in, of a very large and diverse group if individuals, into a niche that is comfortable for others who really don't understand them or want to do so. I generally only post over here when I see a discussion is going to be void of fact and based on someone's ignorant ideas. I like to see debate occur correctly and factually, and I insist upon that for every kind of group or topic. The point is, the folks that the OP is labeling as the "religious right" should actually be referred to under dozens of different headings. To ask this question correctly one would say, "so, which of these many different groups, who could also fit under our notion of the 'religious right' is likely to vote for Romney." Then we could have a real discussion.

    Romney has just as much concern over the Christian left as he does the "religious right." But, if someone truly understands the "religious right" (still such a bad term b/c it generalizes a very large group of very diverse folks) then the obvious answer is a resounding yes, they will support Romney and in a robust fashion.

    They, themselves, call themselves the religious right...

    Ha ha ha republicans irked about being labeled... Ironing!

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  • fsufsu said...

    Im part of the "religious right" most would say as dumb and vague as that term is and I would vote for him because he is moderate enough to find some solidarity but conservative enough to implement changes the country needs.

    how do you think he will do in the bible belt?

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  • Spiritually different, but in terms of political issues that are spawned from religious values...the religious right will identify more with Romney's Mormonism than Obama's ideas. Take abortion for instance. You think they're going to vote pro-choice for Obama just because Romney thinks he's going to be a God of a planet one day? Don't think so.

    andy88c

  • andy88c said...

    Spiritually different, but in terms of political issues that are spawned from religious values...the religious right will identify more with Romney's Mormonism than Obama's ideas. Take abortion for instance. You think they're going to vote pro-choice for Obama just because Romney thinks he's going to be a God of a planet one day? Don't think so.

    ha ha ha... good point

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  • rms02d said...

    Not sure if serious.

    Yes there are clearly differences in beliefs between those groups, but the most basic morals are still very similar. The 'religious right' will gather behind who they view as the most moral, ethical, and pro-life of the two candidates most likely. So my statement was simply to point out that the differences between the religions are not generally what the 'religious right' truly cares about come voting day.

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  • jandern3 said...

    Yes there are clearly differences in beliefs between those groups, but the most basic morals are still very similar. The 'religious right' will gather behind who they view as the most moral, ethical, and pro-life of the two candidates most likely. So my statement was simply to point out that the differences between the religions are not generally what the 'religious right' truly cares about come voting day.

    is this only if he wins the nomination? or do you think they are going to support him before?

    this article suggests they are hoping for Santorum

    Evangelicals Hurry to Find Alternative to Romney - NYTimes.com

    Conservative Christian leaders are stepping up the search for an alternative Republican presidential candidate to unify behind.

    www.nytimes.com
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