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Will the "dope" be legal in your lifetime?

  • Every time I read a story about marijuana crackdowns, seizes, arrests, etc... I just have to shake my head...

    Somehow a freaking plant is illegal? I mean, I know it has hellish side effects, and generally leads to straight up evil behavior... but why not save some much needed money and quit spending time/energy on this heinous substance?

    I would like to see a nationwide poll (probably has already happened) of whether or not anyone actually gives a s*** if this should remain illegal.... who is still believing that propaganda?

    As progressive as our society has become, how have we not yet turned this corner?

    Fuzz

  • I do not partake. Used to in high school, but that was 8 years ago. I do not look down on anyone that decides to partake. I do find it incredibly immature to celebrate things like "4/20", and I thought that when I was younger as well. Marijuana is safer and less side effects than alcohol, yet buying a gallon of Makers Mark is perfectly legal. That is where it confuses me. How is marijuana illegal, but a substance that is much more dangerous and causes 100x the amounts of deaths that marijuana does perfectly legal and actually has bars to go do it publicly?

    It just confuses me.

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    MarineMountie

  • MarineMountie said...

    I do not partake. Used to in high school, but that was 8 years ago. I do not look down on anyone that decides to partake. I do find it incredibly immature to celebrate things like "4/20", and I thought that when I was younger as well. Marijuana is safer and less side effects than alcohol, yet buying a gallon of Makers Mark is perfectly legal. That is where it confuses me. How is marijuana illegal, but a substance that is much more dangerous and causes 100x the amounts of deaths that marijuana does perfectly legal and actually has bars to go do it publicly?

    It just confuses me.

    Other than that I haven't ever smoked weed, this pretty much sums up my feelings about it. I think it would make a world of difference economically and in the criminal justice system if weed were legalized, regulated, and taxed.

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    thejumper5 ●

  • "Medicinally" nationwide...yes.

    Fully legal..doubtful.

    Should be..I know that much.

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    COOTERUSC77

  • The great debate... Not legal but Decriminalized maybe

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    bamaman79

  • The reasons it became illegal in the first place make the fact that it remains illegal beyond ridiculous.

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  • boxybrown said...

    The reasons it became illegal in the first place make the fact that it remains illegal beyond ridiculous.

    have to agree with you ....pitiful

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    shoeless7777

  • Evil behavior?

    Ha ha ha reefer madness

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  • MarineMountie said...

    I do not partake. Used to in high school, but that was 8 years ago. I do not look down on anyone that decides to partake. I do find it incredibly immature to celebrate things like "4/20", and I thought that when I was younger as well. Marijuana is safer and less side effects than alcohol, yet buying a gallon of Makers Mark is perfectly legal. That is where it confuses me. How is marijuana illegal, but a substance that is much more dangerous and causes 100x the amounts of deaths that marijuana does perfectly legal and actually has bars to go do it publicly?

    It just confuses me.

    Exactly how i feel

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    NoVaNoles

  • rms02d said...

    It is only a few years from being completely legal in Colorado and California. Chicago and parts of unicorporated Cook county recently passed a law stating that people caught with small amounts will only receive a ticket. Eventually enough states will pass it and federal law will follow.

    It will probably be legal in the next 10 years. States are desperate for ways to finance their budget deficits.

    It may be a complete waste of time, but pot is pretty harmless. No one smokes a joint and commits Assualt and Battery, or kills somebody with their vehicle.

    You do realize that the federal marijuana laws trump any state/local laws. No matter how many prescriptions you have, the Feds can arrest and charge you (even in SF, CA). I'm not saying they will, just that the marijuana is illegals across the US (medical and otherwise). The doctor's who prescribe MJ run the risk of federal charges (just depends on the mood of the federal prosecutor in the district).

    With all of that being said, I think that it will be legalized in my lifetime. It is no more of a drug than alcohol, is not physically addictive and was originally made illegal for reasons unrelated to drug use (paper and heating oil).

    For all of you that drink alcohol and/or smoke cigarettes, but revile the idea of legalizing pot; you are a hypocrite of the highest order.

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    menichols74

  • This guy summed it up about as well as it can be IMO

    Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do, The Absurdity of Consensual Crimes in Our Free Country

    http://deoxy.org/ccrime.htm

    deoxy.org
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  • thejumper5 said...

    Other than that I haven't ever smoked weed, this pretty much sums up my feelings about it. I think it would make a world of difference economically and in the criminal justice system if weed were legalized, regulated, and taxed.

    Not only taxing it but not spending the money fighting illegal distrubution would save almost just as much money.

    I've said this 100 times, I know a lot of successful potheads. I dont know many successful alcoholics.

    This post was edited by PIIHB RNP on 12/17/2011 at 7:56 AM

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  • menichols74 said...

    You do realize that the federal marijuana laws trump any state/local laws. No matter how many prescriptions you have, the Feds can arrest and charge you (even in SF, CA). I'm not saying they will, just that the marijuana is illegals across the US (medical and otherwise). The doctor's who prescribe MJ run the risk of federal charges (just depends on the mood of the federal prosecutor in the district).

    With all of that being said, I think that it will be legalized in my lifetime. It is no more of a drug than alcohol, is not physically addictive and was originally made illegal for reasons unrelated to drug use (paper and heating oil).

    For all of you that drink alcohol and/or smoke cigarettes, but revile the idea of legalizing pot; you are a hypocrite of the highest order.

    Do you realize that obama put a law into effect that says when it came to medical marijuana that the federal government would go by state laws so yeah.

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  • Most definitely should be legal. And I haven't partaken in over 8 years, so it's not a self serving position

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  • menichols74 said...

    You do realize that the federal marijuana laws trump any state/local laws. No matter how many prescriptions you have, the Feds can arrest and charge you (even in SF, CA). I'm not saying they will, just that the marijuana is illegals across the US (medical and otherwise). The doctor's who prescribe MJ run the risk of federal charges (just depends on the mood of the federal prosecutor in the district).

    With all of that being said, I think that it will be legalized in my lifetime. It is no more of a drug than alcohol, is not physically addictive and was originally made illegal for reasons unrelated to drug use (paper and heating oil).

    For all of you that drink alcohol and/or smoke cigarettes, but revile the idea of legalizing pot; you are a hypocrite of the highest order.

    Lake Forest in SoCal has been a regular target of federal raids. Over the last several years there were as many as 38 dispensaries but last month the last of those was shut down due to a violation....they actually sold baked goods with MJ and that is against the law. Still, CA is probably going to be one of, if not THE, first state to legalize it.

    The issues won't simply go away though. It makes no more sense to compare a one joint experience to anything other than a one drink experience. Neither is likely going to end up in burglary or homicide. Both are capable of altering reaction time and mood. Both are capable of affecting personal relationships. Excessive use of either isn't productive and clearly not healthy. The big difference between them in an overuse situation is that drunks tend to get behind the wheel more often and are more prone to bouts of anger or rage. Still, fatal vehicle accidents from stoned drivers do occur just like they do with other "legal" prescription drugs.

    So if/when pot becomes legal, will it be privatized as in big Pharm, or regulated by the government which doesn't seem capable of even managing a balanced budget? When the price goes up, won't there still be a black market for it? How is the product managed for purity? What is the legal age for use? And as with prisons, the NIMBY argument.....where will it be sold? Who here wants to hold a mortgage or send your kids to school around the corner from a pot shop? There is a reason liquor stores aren't on every corner in affluent cities.

    I also wonder if the shelf life will have an impact on how it is sold and to whom. Once it gets cultivated, sellers need to move it as quickly as possible. I do believe it will become legalized at some point but I don't think communities have put much thought into how it should happen, what consequences there will be, and how to deal with them. You know the saying.....if you want it bad, you'll get it....bad.

    wild pony714

  • deltadawg82 said...

    Do you realize that obama put a law into effect that says when it came to medical marijuana that the federal government would go by state laws so yeah.

    Obama doesn't put laws into effect. There is no such federal law regarding marijuana. During his campaign he promised "sensible" enforcement and in 2009 AG Holder announced a policy change, saying the Feds would defer to local and state authorities. Policy and law are not the same thing. In fact it has been federal crackdowns in Colorado and California that have occurred in the last 2 years, some under ATF and the IRS is now part of that process resulting in dispensary closures.

    wild pony714

  • MyNameIsMyName said...

    Most definitely should be legal. And I haven't partaken in over 8 years, so it's not a self serving position

    agreed and it's been almost 10 for me

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  • My parents found my bud first day back from school..... I sure hope it's legalized...

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  • Legalize Freedom!

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  • It needs to be (along with some other schedule 1 drugs) at least legalized nationwide for medicinal use. Pot has many benefits that have been untapped because certain industries lobby against it, mainly oil, paper, and cotton industries. The plant yields a pretty high amount of energy, more so than corn. It can produce more paper product per acre than trees and can produce more fabric per acre than cotton. Not to mention it's called "weed" for a reason. It can be grown practically anywhere for industrial use and can be harvested some 3 times a year. I believe it was "Popular Science" that said it was going to be the next big cash crop at the beginning of the 20th century.

    A2Wolverines ●

  • A^2Wolverines said...

    It needs to be (along with some other schedule 1 drugs) at least legalized nationwide for medicinal use. Pot has many benefits that have been untapped because certain industries lobby against it, mainly oil, paper, and cotton industries. The plant yields a pretty high amount of energy, more so than corn. It can produce more paper product per acre than trees and can produce more fabric per acre than cotton. Not to mention it's called "weed" for a reason. It can be grown practically anywhere for industrial use and can be harvested some 3 times a year. I believe it was "Popular Science" that said it was going to be the next big cash crop at the beginning of the 20th century.

    It obviously has some actual medical benefits, but a very small percent of users are medically motivated. People use it for it's stoned, mood altering effects. Not saying that's wrong but it is what it is.

    The type of cannabis you are referring to is the hemp variety which, because of it's low THC content, is really not the smoking kind. 2 different things IMO although one could certainly lead the way in agricultural utility.

    wild pony714

  • wild pony714 said...

    It obviously has some actual medical benefits, but a very small percent of users are medically motivated. People use it for it's stoned, mood altering effects. Not saying that's wrong but it is what it is.

    The type of cannabis you are referring to is the hemp variety which, because of it's low THC content, is really not the smoking kind. 2 different things IMO although one could certainly lead the way in agricultural utility.

    Yes you are right, but hemp is prohibited in large quantities as well IIRC. And yeah, people will always abuse any substance but it shouldn't stand in the way of helping folks. There have been other "drugs" that have shown good to great success in helping folks with PTSD, yet they remain absolutely illegal, and that is bullcrap.

    A2Wolverines ●

  • A^2Wolverines said...

    It needs to be (along with some other schedule 1 drugs) at least legalized nationwide for medicinal use. Pot has many benefits that have been untapped because certain industries lobby against it, mainly oil, paper, and cotton industries. The plant yields a pretty high amount of energy, more so than corn. It can produce more paper product per acre than trees and can produce more fabric per acre than cotton. Not to mention it's called "weed" for a reason. It can be grown practically anywhere for industrial use and can be harvested some 3 times a year. I believe it was "Popular Science" that said it was going to be the next big cash crop at the beginning of the 20th century.

    Now I know that I love you. One of the best posts on tBB ever.

    Move to Cali. It is practically legal here. Went and got 1/2 oz each of G-13 and Sweet Lemon Haze yesterday. All legit.

    SDWolverine

  • A^2Wolverines said...

    Yes you are right, but hemp is prohibited in large quantities as well IIRC. And yeah, people will always abuse any substance but it shouldn't stand in the way of helping folks. There have been other "drugs" that have shown good to great success in helping folks with PTSD, yet they remain absolutely illegal, and that is bullcrap.

    Hate to go all hippie on you, but why are things that are found in nature illegal, yet things that are made in a lab (oxy anyone?) legal with an Rx from a doctor?

    This post was edited by SDWolverine on 12/17/2011 at 4:33 PM

    SDWolverine

  • SDWolverine said...

    Hate to go all hippie on you, but why are things that are found in nature illegal, yet things that are made in a lab (oxy anyone?) legal with an Rx from a doctor?

    It funny looking at things like Peyote and Psilocybin and how beneficially they can be to people yet they remain completely illegal. They just need to be used under a very controlled environment.

    A2Wolverines ●

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