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  • MKatUmich said...

    That pic isn't 4%, probably more like 2%. Most bodybuilders probably come in at 2% for a show.

    This is what I do, it is what my doctorate degree is in. My research is done at the U of Houston Health and Human Performance Lab, where we have access to a dexa. I'm sure our multi-million dollar machine is not as accurate as everybody's eyeballs.

    stoptothink

  • Michmania said...

    No they do not. You cant survive very long with 2% bodyfat. Most bb are around 4-5%.

    They don't survive for very long at 2% bodyfat. They maintain it for probably a day or two and bounce back up again real quick. Not to mention bodybuilders are dehydrated so they look even more ripped so it isn't really a fair visual comparison.

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  • theFightingtide said...

    I am about to try and find a way to do some yoga. I have to get more flexible

    It's really a lot of fun, and you feel both mentally and physically relaxed.

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  • stoptothink said...

    This is what I do, it is what my doctorate degree is in. My research is done at the U of Houston Health and Human Performance Lab, where we have access to a dexa. I'm sure our multi-million dollar machine is not as accurate as everybody's eyeballs.

    They did a dexa of me in college, I was probably 19 years old and under 200 lbs and no way was I near my best shape and I still measured 8.8%.

    Now I know 3 site caliper isn't the most accurate but I was measured between 4.5 and 5% multiple times by multiple trainers over an extended period of time, probably at least 6 months if not a year.

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  • MKatUmich said...

    They don't survive for very long at 2% bodyfat. They maintain it for probably a day or two and bounce back up again real quick. Not to mention bodybuilders are dehydrated so they look even more ripped so it isn't really a fair visual comparison.

    Just to make stop happy, I did a home bf% test and got 6.2%... happy

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  • aumajorpain said...

    Just to make stop happy, I did a home bf% test and got 6.2%... happy

    Which has an error of around 2%.

    Michmania

  • Michmania said...

    Which has an error of around 2%.

    so he could be at 4.2%.

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  • MKatUmich said...

    They did a dexa of me in college, I was probably 19 years old and under 200 lbs and no way was I near my best shape and I still measured 8.8%.

    Now I know 3 site caliper isn't the most accurate but I was measured between 4.5 and 5% multiple times by multiple trainers over an extended period of time, probably at least 6 months if not a year.

    Well just like your Auburn buddy, I don't know what you do for a living but you are in the wrong business if you aren't on the cover of Muscle & Fitness. I have measured very few people that were legitimately under 5%, and each and every one of them was an IFBB pro in contest prep.

    It's kinda like when the topic of bench press comes up and 95% of the people on the board respond that they can push 300+, even though(according to NSCA) less than 2% of adult males in the country can legitimately do it. bs_sign is a pretty safe bet because statistically the chances are extremely low that there is even a single individual on this entire board who walks around at 4%.

    stoptothink

  • Michmania said...

    Which has an error of around 2%.

    The error on a bioelectrical impedance machine(which is his only "at home" option, either handheld or a scale) is WAY higher than 2%, more like 6+% http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=218

    stoptothink

  • stoptothink said...

    The error on a bioelectrical impedance machine(which is his only "at home" option, either handheld or a scale) is WAY higher than 2%, more like 6+% http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=218

    This guy has an ego issue

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  • aumajorpain said...

    This guy has an ego issue

    You are the one claiming to have an everyday bodyfat percentage of a professionall bodybuilder in contest shape, and I am the one with the ego?

    stoptothink

  • I'll turn off my bs_sign meter. It got out of hand. I apologize.

    stoptothink

  • stoptothink said...

    Well just like your Auburn buddy, I don't know what you do for a living but you are in the wrong business if you aren't on the cover of Muscle & Fitness. I have measured very few people that were legitimately under 5%, and each and every one of them was an IFBB pro in contest prep.

    It's kinda like when the topic of bench press comes up and 95% of the people on the board respond that they can push 300+, even though(according to NSCA) less than 2% of adult males in the country can legitimately do it. bs_sign is a pretty safe bet because statistically the chances are extremely low that there is even a single individual on this entire board who walks around at 4%.

    Like I mentioned on the first page, i'm a personal trainer. I never looked into fitness modeling, my shoulders probably aren't broad enough, but I have been asked if I am a fitness model, if I was a wrestler in college or even if I played football in college. I feel confident saying I am in the top 2%, hell even 1% when it comes to things like that, though my cardio has never been all that great. When I was big I benched 405 without a spotters help, touched the chest and everything.

    Here's a vacation pic of me from 2009 when I was merely in ok shape and a couple years removed from my peak. I blame the wife.

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  • GONIG BUCK said...

    It's really a lot of fun, and you feel both mentally and physically relaxed.

    That is what I have heard. I am banking on it as well lol

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  • stoptothink said...

    You are the one claiming to have an everyday bodyfat percentage of a professionall bodybuilder in contest shape, and I am the one with the ego?

    I am not bragging, I just repeated the dr's words

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  • So ladies, back to actually talking about working out and not crying about body fat this and body fat that blah. Any advice for working the lower abs? Usually one of the hardest muscles to make 'pop'. I've heard random things from some pro athletes but I know everyone is different. Thoughts?

    Bjet60

  • Bjet60 said...

    So ladies, back to actually talking about working out and not crying about body fat this and body fat that blah. Any advice for working the lower abs? Usually one of the hardest muscles to make 'pop'. I've heard random things from some pro athletes but I know everyone is different. Thoughts?

    See my first post ITT. Eat better.

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  • MKatUmich said...

    See my first post ITT. Eat better.

    haha my main goal was to get away from all the body fat % talk. Been doing that and so far so good. Lots of greens a lean protein. Any particular exercises to target the area though? Leg raises, swiss ball jack knifes etc? I mean obviously you need to cut the fat around there first to even have them show.

    Bjet60

  • MKatUmich said...

    Food, it's your fuel. A car without gas isn't going to go far, same with a person. Obviously has to be the right types of food. And could be you are missing out on a key nutritional component if you aren't eating 8 servings of veggies a day which would effect energy levels. And 2 hours of cardio is alot, especially if you aren't training for a race. That will add stress to the body and that does all kinds of things for energy levels. If you are already dealing with a lot of stress and adding the additional physical stress you could be dealing with adrenal fatigue.

    Normally I start asking questions about stress, diet and sleep when somebody has energy concerns. Lifting weights helps with energy too as muscle mass is where you store alot of your calories.

    Thanks a lot for the advice.

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  • I plan on going for a run sometime tomorrow. Had too many beers this weekend..

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  • Bjet60 said...

    haha my main goal was to get away from all the body fat % talk. Been doing that and so far so good. Lots of greens a lean protein. Any particular exercises to target the area though? Leg raises, swiss ball jack knifes etc? I mean obviously you need to cut the fat around there first to even have them show.

    You can't spot reduce fat, it's not possible. One of the common questions I get from the old guys in the gym with the big gut is what is the best exercise to get rid of their gut. They are looking for some kind of situp that will make them skinny. I point to the treadmill. So it doesn't matter how hard you work your abs, it won't make the fat in that area go away any faster except for the extra calories you burn while working the abs. And that is why I don't recommend spending time on abs, because unless you have time to burn you can get a much more efficient workout doing compound exercises and if you are doing them right you are working your core at the same time as you are working your legs/back/chest. Much more efficient use of your time and you burn more calories.

    If you are starting to see results but not quite there yet, have to be patient and keep working at it and possibly work harder and smarter. Unfortunately genetics determine our fat storage patterns and with most guys we store fat in the gut. That means the gut is the last place we lose it from which is why so many guys start asking questions about their lower abs.

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  • MKatUmich said...

    You can't spot reduce fat, it's not possible. One of the common questions I get from the old guys in the gym with the big gut is what is the best exercise to get rid of their gut. They are looking for some kind of situp that will make them skinny. I point to the treadmill. So it doesn't matter how hard you work your abs, it won't make the fat in that area go away any faster except for the extra calories you burn while working the abs. And that is why I don't recommend spending time on abs, because unless you have time to burn you can get a much more efficient workout doing compound exercises and if you are doing them right you are working your core at the same time as you are working your legs/back/chest. Much more efficient use of your time and you burn more calories.

    If you are starting to see results but not quite there yet, have to be patient and keep working at it and possibly work harder and smarter. Unfortunately genetics determine our fat storage patterns and with most guys we store fat in the gut. That means the gut is the last place we lose it from which is why so many guys start asking questions about their lower abs.

    Yeah the 'Insanity' has been working pretty well as it is more of a cardio base and I try and hit the gym on top of that at least 3 times a week too. I just need to figure out how much of it I'm building back up as muscle and not just in 'weight' loss because I can easily see a difference even though the scale isn't dropping nearly as fast as when I would just simply run miles on end.

    This post was edited by Bjet60 on 4/8/2012 at 11:28 PM

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  • Bjet60 said...

    Yeah the 'Insanity' has been working pretty well as it is more of a cardio base and I try and hit the gym on top of that at least 3 times a week too. I just need to figure out how much of it I'm building back up as muscle and not just in 'weight' loss because I can easily see a difference even though the scale isn't dropping nearly as fast as when I would just simply run miles on end.

    One of the important things I always have to remind people is who cares what the scale says, pay attention to what the mirror is saying.

    One big difference between insanity and running is I am guessing you have a higher heart rate doing insanity, or at least periods of intense heart rate. During these periods of increased heartrate, specificly if you are above your anaerobic threshhold, you actually stop burning fat. If you are running miles on end you probalby have a lower steady state HR in which you burn a higher percentage of fat calories. Just something to keep in mind for people trying to burn off fat.

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  • I wouldn't agree with the running miles on end just to lose weight. I guess it depends what your miles on end means to you. I run 50+ a week because I train for marathons, but I never feel full regardless of how much I eat. It gets a whole lot harder to control your food uptake when you run more than 4 miles a day. If I ran 20 miles a week, I'd probably be at my lowest weight.

    PSUfan28

  • MKat, do you drink milk? If so, how often?

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