The Blue Board

Point being?

My point is you have no idea who half the nominees in this thread are even if they're a whopping 25 years old. You are a smug little brat that runs his mouth about some of the dumbest crap.

You talk like you're an expert but people have cats older than you. I doubt you could even identify a pay phone, such ancient technology.

I know sports you prick. You act like since I'm not 40 I don't know who any of these players are.

Surprise--Casey Wiegmann. Undrafted in 1996, Weigmann turned into one of the most consistent offensive linemen in NFL history. He was a 2008 Pro Bowl selection and started the last 175 games of his career. He retired following the 2011 season with an active streak of 11,162 consecutive snaps.

Bust (tie)--Randy Duncan. The quarterback was the Heisman runner-up and Walter Camp winner in 1958. He was the #1 pick in the 1959 draft by the Packers, whose young QB, Bart Starr, had struggled to that point. Duncan decided to take better money to play in the Canadian Football League. He played 2 years in the CFL and one year for the Dallas Texans (early KC Chiefs) before focusing on law school. All I can really say is that it was a different era.

Robert Gallery. Gallery was a consensus All-American and the Outland winner in 2003 before being the #2 pick in the '04 draft. Like so many Raiders in the past decade, he never really developed in the NFL. He was one of the elite LT prospects of all time and ended up playing guard for Oakland before moving to Seattle last year. He has never been to a pro bowl and signed with New England this offseason.

What about Clay Matthews as a surprise? Wasn't he a walk-on at USC who didn't start until his senior year?

Pat Sullivan was a bust for AU, as was Aundray Bruce.

Well the biggest bust has to be Akili Smith. Third pick in the draft and managed to start a whole 16 games in his NFL career.

On the flipside I would put A. J. Feeley as the biggest surprise. He was a backup for almost his entire career at Oregon (Behind Joey Harrington and the above mentioned Akili Smith) but has been in the NFL for over a decade, and started some games for St Louis last year. (Beat the Saints, actually)

I'd have to agree. I'd add in Gould if kickers count (edit-as a surprise).

bust= troy smith (i know, he's not a prototypical nfl qb) and i knew he would never be a hall of famer, but damn, win the heisman and ride the pine?????

cant think of a good suprise (all the ex bucks doin well were expected too)

I don't think Meriweather is a bust.....Underachiever yes but not a bust

I agree. Nobody is as bad as they look on the Raiders, but that isn't saying much. IMO, Russell is probably the worst QB ever drafted at #1 overall. He was destined for bust from day one, just like Ryan Leaf.

I think he did have all the PHYSICAL tools, but mentally he is one of the worst QBs I have ever seen. Even in the dominant win over ND in the Sugar that he put up good numbers in, his reads/progressions were just shit.

Someone will act incredulous about that statement so...: It is good for the Tigers they so completely outclassed ND in every single facet of that game because if their secondary had been able to cover ANY of LSU's receivers for even a few seconds OR the DL could have gotten into the same zip code as Russell at any point in the game, it might be very different story. I remember being shocked after that game that Russell had 300+ yards because I honestly thought LSU had won that game in spite of Russell and because of the lines and that ND might has well have been Jesuit HS. Russell was a bust no matter where he went.

Bust: Tyrone Wheatley
Surprise: Brady