-
ramssuperbowl99 ●
- 5 stars Rating: 93
1194 votes total - Letterman
- (2235)
- 17 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 5 stars
-
ramssuperbowl99 ●
- 5 stars Rating: 93
1194 votes total - Letterman
- (2235)
- 17 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 5 stars
-
Rocket_Play ●
- 5 stars Rating: 84
10320 votes total - All Conference
- (11369)
- 19 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 5 stars
-
fsufsu
- 4 stars Rating: 67
9443 votes total - All American
- (18307)
- 26 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 4 stars
-
jhenryhoo said...
If people evolved from another creature (whichever one you think) then why are there not creatures that are currently in the in-between stage of evolution? Micro evolution definitely takes place but I can't see the evidence that supports macro evolution. Just wondering if anyone has a good answer or if I'm missing something. Not trolling
ramssuperbowl99 ●
- 5 stars Rating: 93
1194 votes total - Letterman
- (2235)
- 17 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 5 stars
-
Rocket_Play said...
Again, this is the problem. Not all faith is equal.
For example. Two people stand on a roof. No god involved. One has faith in gravity. The other has faith in magic flying abilities. One jumps off the building thinking magic flying abilities will save him. The other doesn't because of the overhwhelming evidence in gravity. Do you think both faiths are equal?Shane8773
- 4 stars Rating: 79
2628 votes total - Letterman
- (2131)
- 27 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 4 stars
-
ramssuperbowl99 ●
- 5 stars Rating: 93
1194 votes total - Letterman
- (2235)
- 17 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 5 stars
-
Rebel_30
- 5 stars Rating: 92
1848 votes total - Russell Steadman
- Redshirt
- (3609)
- 21 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 5 stars
-
Rocket_Play ●
- 5 stars Rating: 84
10320 votes total - All Conference
- (11369)
- 19 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 5 stars
-
Rebel_30 said...
I think this particular list of fossils would hold more weight if they didn't have to draw in pictures of the fossils they haven't found yet. Looks like they are assuming. JMO
How do they know that these are "transitional fossils" and not just a similar looking species or kind?
Again people, the questions I am asking are in no way meant to demean anyone. I really want to know why people believe what they believe and it also makes me dig deeper.
ramssuperbowl99 ●
- 5 stars Rating: 93
1194 votes total - Letterman
- (2235)
- 17 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 5 stars
-
Shane8773
- 4 stars Rating: 79
2628 votes total - Letterman
- (2131)
- 27 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 4 stars
-
ramssuperbowl99 said...
Every fossil is a 'transitional fossil'. All species are changing, including our own.
However, focusing on just the fossil record is only .00...1% of evolutionary evidence. The overwhelming proof comes from genetics and gene sequencing.
If you look at related species, you can see evidence of the change without ever needing a fossil. Before I explain it, a little genetics 101.
Our DNA is made of of 4 different base pairs, labelled A, G, T, and C. It takes 3 of those base pairs to code for 1 amino acid (the building blocks for proteins). But that math doesn't check out, because there are 4*4*4 ways to have a 3 DNA sequence (64 in total) for only 20 amino acids. What does this mean? There are duplicate ways to code for the same amino acid, which would give you the same protein. So, if you see AGT, it's possible (and actually almost likely) that the sequence AGC will code for the same amino acid.
Why does this matter? Because you can see evidence of change across species. Species A will have AGTAGTAGT and Species B might have AGTAGCAGC. Same 3 amino acids coded. Different DNA.
There are only 2 conclusions.
1. God is trying to trick you by making every created species look like the product of random change.
2. Evolution by natural selection.Shane8773
- 4 stars Rating: 79
2628 votes total - Letterman
- (2131)
- 27 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 4 stars
-
ramssuperbowl99 ●
- 5 stars Rating: 93
1194 votes total - Letterman
- (2235)
- 17 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 5 stars
-
Shane8773
- 4 stars Rating: 79
2628 votes total - Letterman
- (2131)
- 27 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 4 stars
-
tlhwg ●
- 5 stars Rating: 82
394 votes total - Sean Millard
- Varsity
- (1177)
- 30 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 5 stars
-
ramssuperbowl99 ●
- 5 stars Rating: 93
1194 votes total - Letterman
- (2235)
- 17 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 5 stars
-
ramssuperbowl99 ●
- 5 stars Rating: 93
1194 votes total - Letterman
- (2235)
- 17 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 5 stars
-
ramssuperbowl99 said...
Of course, the whole 'god created everything to have a personal relationship with us' argument starts to lose credibility when you think about a few things.
1. The size of the universe. It would take light about 93 billion years to travel from one side to the other. There are hundreds of billions of GALAXIES.
If the entire point of this existence was to judge/talk with us, why the hell is the place so big. This is akin to saying you need a single molecule of water and coming back with a trillion oceans worth.
2. The age of the universe. Roughly 14 billion years. The first 9+ billion, there was no earth. Then there was about a billion and a half years of an earth with no life. Finally, there's a bunch of single-celled organisms. Only in the past hundred to two hundred thousand years has any sentient life emerged.
You say, 'oh well god doesn't care about time'.
Fine - think of the method that he would have chosen for evolution. Evolution, morally, is abhorrent. Survival of the fittest inherently means that the unfit starve and painfully die out. From a god who emphasizes compassion for the poor and helping those in need, it seems absolutely insane he would choose the exact opposite method to generate his creation that he loves so much.
3. Physical features of the earth. If you were going to make a habitat for humanity with all your love, I can assure you it wouldn't come with the following:
Mudslides
Earthquakes
Hurricanes
Tornados
Tsunamis
Volcanic eruptions
Temperatures that oscillate between freezing your ass off and hot as hell
70% of the habitat occupied by water that we can't even drink
Trillions upon trillions of microorganisms trying to kill us that we can't see or defend ourselves fromShane8773
- 4 stars Rating: 79
2628 votes total - Letterman
- (2131)
- 27 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 4 stars
-
ArkGator
- 4 stars Rating: 72
11 votes total - Participant
- (33)
- 16 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 4 stars
-
fsufsu
- 4 stars Rating: 67
9443 votes total - All American
- (18307)
- 26 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 4 stars
-
ArkGator said...
There was a young man of god who went to college and had a roomate that did not believe in god.The young man would witness about the glory of god everyday to his roomate.One day the young man brought his science project to the room(A MODEL OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM).The roomate came home and asked "where did that come from?".The young man replied "It just appeared".The roomate replied "impossible".After a long pause the roomate said "i get it now".He is a pastor today.God bless.
fsufsu
- 4 stars Rating: 67
9443 votes total - All American
- (18307)
- 26 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 4 stars
-
OmegaBuckeye
- 5 stars Rating: 90
1756 votes total - Letterman
- (1803)
- 27 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 5 stars
-
fsufsu said...
Atheists are dumb too. Agnosticism is the only viable stance. We can neither prove nor disprove god whatever you would think god would be. There is a large amount of evidence that we may have been seeded here on earth. If the movie, as clumsy and poorly executed as it was, Prometheus portrayed an accurate situation then would they be "god". I bet you'd say no.
One thing we can say with near certainty is that man kind is TRULY convinced entities came from above and gave us vision and information at certain points in the past. The civilizations that believe they experienced this were scientifically retarded. The actual meaning of the word retarded. They turned this perceivably real experience into over 1,500 other fairy tales to match their own societal ideals, etc over the next few thousand years. If you really believe that you have to be apart of a single religion to go to "heaven" you are part of a process at least 9k years old where each person regurgitates the myopic version of their parents story.
Shane8773
- 4 stars Rating: 79
2628 votes total - Letterman
- (2131)
- 27 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 4 stars
-
OmegaBuckeye said...
Evolution is based on evidence that has been observed. There is a great amount of this evidence. When evidence is found to contradict previous conclusions, those conclusions are abandoned, and new beliefs based on the new evidence take their place. This "seeing is believing" basis for the theory is exactly the opposite of the sort of faith implied by your claim.
As to macro evolution specifically;
1.We would not expect to observe large changes directly. Evolution consists mainly of the accumulation of small changes over large periods of time. If we saw something like a fish turning into a frog in just a couple generations, we would have good evidence against evolution.
2.The evidence for evolution does not depend, even a little, on observing macroevolution directly. There is a very great deal of other evidence. http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA202.html
3.As biologists use the term, macroevolution means evolution at or above the species level. Speciation has been observed and documented. http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB910.html
4.Microevolution has been observed and is taken for granted even by creationists. And because there is no known barrier to large change and because we can expect small changes to accumulate into large changes, microevolution implies macroevolution. Small changes to developmental genes or their regulation can cause relatively large changes in the adult organism (Shapiro et al. 2004).
5.There are many transitional forms that show that macroevolution has occurred http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC200.html
fsufsu
- 4 stars Rating: 67
9443 votes total - All American
- (18307)
- 26 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 4 stars
-
joetheogre ●
- 5 stars Rating: 85
5940 votes total - Starter
- (8747)
- 22 months
- Send Message
- Follow User
- Ignore User
- 5 stars
- Post a New Topic
- Back to Topics
- « Previous Topic
- Next Topic »
- Boards ▾
- Pages: 1 | ... | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | ... | 17




any followers of "Darwin's theory" here?