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Exactly. It means there is a very good chance of life elsewhere. But if you believe there definitely is life elsewhere, you have to exercise faith to reach that conclusion, in the absence of actual proof.

Yeah should've known better I guess.

Exactly. I felt like I was the only person in Tennessee watching the presidential debates and reading and reading to actually decide who I'd vote for. Everyone else just agreed with their parents basically. Same thing here. I was a Christian once, then I found some concerning patterns, then I figured out what is actually going on and I dont need the feel good tale. I dont need the sugar pill.

Like I said, without a historical analysis you may perceive Christianity as a "some believe and some dont and the Bible explains" that kind of dynamic. You look at human history and the only REASONABLE deeduction is that there are shared beliefs by humans, which in itself proves nothing, but it is apparent than man wants to believe there is something out there but with every passing year we find out more and more clearly that there isn't.

In 100 years when transhumanism is rampant, evidence of life has been found on Mars and over 25 Earth twins have been located, there will still be Christians swearing they can mold the Bible and their faith to encompass that.

You are uncertain if God is real or not, but you know his future plans? How exactly did he reveal his future plans to you without revealing he was real as he revealed if he was real, what his future plans didn't involve?

There's no sure fact. But I would take some evidence over writings about super powers.

I tell you one thing, agnostics are less cognitively and emotionally invested in their beliefs than mystics and therefore will prove out, over a sample size, to be less defensive in discussions than mystics.

Nope.

Not a chance. Consider that a throw away comment and disregard. I'm not looking to get into a theological debate.

My point is that this thread is being positioned as a Christians vs the smug lack of faith types. When it couldn't be farther from the truth. If you are a Christian and also do not believe in evolution that's cool by me. But they do not go hand in hand. If someone mocks your beliefs in the latter it does not mean they are mocking Christianity or any religion for that matter.

religion in its self was probably just a means to control people.

You sure do say in... years quite a bit. Time seems to be the magic word for most other world views. If I add time to this stupid theory people will believe it. In 100 years when we havent found life on another planet, what will be your answer? We need more time!

By definition, the physical laws of the universe are universal. That does not mean that we correctly understand these laws or know under what circumstances they apply and don't apply. I think it would be better to say, from what we have observed about the physical laws of the universe, this is our understanding. For example, for years, we thought that Newtonian physics fully described a number of universal laws until we started looking at things on the macro and micro level to see that they were incomplete.

So just make up a story that cant be proven or disproven and tell the folks who dont agree that they have to or they will burn in hell. Then no matter how much time passes you can just "believe it"