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anybody else watching Rand Paul hump the senate?

  • CMXI said...

    Man, this thread turned into a conservative circlejerk pretty quickly.

    and all Obama would have to do to end it is to admit it's unconstitutional to use drone strikes on American soil against non-combatants without due process.

    Is AG wouldn't do it, so it's doubtful he will as well?

    So the question is do you believe it's constitutional for the president to order drone strikes in this situation?

    NLeininger

  • NLeininger said...

    Was a list ever released on who they were? My guess would be the most center leaning Rs in the Senate.

    Senator Lindsey Graham
    Senator Bob Corker
    Senator Kelly Ayotte
    Senator John McCain
    Senator Dan Coats
    Senator Tom Coburn
    Senator Richard Burr
    Senator Mike Johanns
    Senator Pat Toomey
    Senator Ron Johnson
    Senator John Hoeven
    Senator Saxby Chambliss

    The guy speaking now was there.

    This post was edited by Status on 3/6/2013 at 10:44 PM

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  • Status said...

    Surprised Obama hasn't said anything yet. 98% of his little minions probably had no idea this was even an issue. I bet these guys will last until tomorrow and the MSM can't ignore it by then.

    Exactly. This went from 5 or 6 senators helping Paul, to now the GOP establishment even jumping on board. They will be there in the morning.

    TroyTide

  • Status said...

    Surprised Obama hasn't said anything yet. 98% of his little minions probably had no idea this was even an issue. I bet these guys will last until tomorrow and the MSM can't ignore it by then.

    If they break Strom's record they will have no chance. What's happening will eventually leak on in other media like sports talk shows, daytime talk shows, and tons of blogs.

    NLeininger

  • NLeininger said...

    and all Obama would have to do to end it is to admit it's unconstitutional to use drone strikes on American soil against non-combatants without due process.

    Is AG wouldn't do it, so it's doubtful he will as well?

    So the question is do you believe it's constitutional for the president to order drone strikes in this situation?

    Not at all.

    Contrary to popular opinion, I don't actually agree with everything Obama does. This is one of those things that I disagree with.

    Still, my opinion doesn't change the fact that this thread is a ridiculous right-wing circlejerk.

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  • CMXI said...

    Man, this thread turned into a conservative circlejerk pretty quickly.

    Why would You guys rather play with robots than throw Child rapist in jail for life.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by CptAUmerica21 on 3/6/2013 at 10:49 PM

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  • CMXI said...

    Not at all.

    Contrary to popular opinion, I don't actually agree with everything Obama does. This is one of those things that I disagree with.

    Still, my opinion doesn't change the fact that this thread is a ridiculous right-wing circlejerk.

    You love us, or you wouldn't be here.

    TroyTide

  • CptAUmerica21 said...

    Why would You guys rather play with robots than throw Child rapist in jail for life.

    huh

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  • CMXI said...

    huh

    I'm going to admit something, I'm a tad bit drunk. However, Colorado not passing Jessica's Law is ridiculous. They prioritize weed over protecting children from child rapist.

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  • TroyTide said...

    You love us, or you wouldn't be here.

    biggrin It's like missionaries. Without heathens, what would they do all day?

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  • CMXI said...

    biggrin It's like missionaries. Without heathens, what would they do all day?

    lol. Your boy Durbin is on the floor now...not quite sure where he stands on this yet though.

    TroyTide

  • CptAUmerica21 said...

    I'm going to admit something, I'm a tad bit drunk. However, Colorado not passing Jessica's Law is ridiculous. They prioritize weed over protecting children from child rapist.

    Jessica's Law has some major flaws that need to be addressed before it should be passed. Don't take that as some ridiculous tacit promotion of child rape, but Jessica's Law is so flawed that even Mark Lunsford (Jessica's dad and its main advocate) didn't want any of its provisions to apply to his own son when his son was charged with a sex offense.

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  • CMXI said...

    huh

    I respect your posts and glad you chime in. Nothing is ever accomplished only addressing issues from one perspective.

    Out of curiosity, being you have a law background, do states have the authority to forbid federal drones from prodding over their airspace?

    Do states under any premise have the ability to override the Patriot Act?

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  • Just over half-way to the record now!

    TroyTide

  • TroyTide said...

    lol. Your boy Durbin is on the floor now...not quite sure where he stands on this yet though.

    Maybe I am too drunk after a few bottles of wine, but what the hell does 9/11 have to do with shooting some dickhead driving down GA 400?

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  • CMXI said...

    Jessica's Law has some major flaws that need to be addressed before it should be passed. Don't take that as some ridiculous tacit promotion of child rape, but Jessica's Law is so flawed that even Mark Lunsford (Jessica's dad and its main advocate) didn't want any of its provisions to apply to his own son when his son was charged with a sex offense.

    so why not change it and make it better?

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  • LonestarAg_10 said...

    I respect your posts and glad you chime in. Nothing is ever accomplished only addressing issues from one perspective.

    Out of curiosity, being you have a law background, do states have the authority to forbid federal drones from prodding over their airspace?

    Do states under any premise have the ability to override the Patriot Act?

    While arguments could be made that states have the authority to forbid federal drones in their airspace, I doubt any would prevail. It's not impossible to defy the federal government by any means, but based on the political climate that allows Guantanamo to remain in existence, I can't think of a sufficient legal argument that would actually hold up in the Supreme Court.

    As for your second question, not that I know of. Admittedly, it's been a long time since I studied the Patriot Act and I'm also not a constitutional scholar, but I can't think of anything off the top of my head.

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  • CptAUmerica21 said...

    so why not change it and make it better?

    Changing the proposed law to remove its flaws would take so much reshaping and modification that it'd just end up being an entirely different proposal. "Jessica's Law" is a flawed construction that's merely a safety blanket for the general public, but doesn't actually do much at all when it comes to protecting children.

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  • Tim Scott!!!

    TroyTide

  • TroyTide said...

    Tim Scott!!!

    Yes.

    Get out the phone book Sen. Scott.

    Love it, "Was that the question?"

    NLeininger

  • I don't know what's worse: Republican Senators from before 2008 taking their stand with Rand because of Obama or Democratic Senators from before 2008 taking their stand against Rand because of Obama. pukeface

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  • John Cusack wondering on twitter where the Liberals are?

    NLeininger

  • So can we expect to hold a nice talk about all the other lovely civil liberties issues then?

    Boy I hope so!

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    So can we expect to hold a nice talk about all the other lovely civil liberties issues then?

    Boy I hope so!

    Like what?

    NLeininger

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    So can we expect to hold a nice talk about all the other lovely civil liberties issues then?

    Boy I hope so!

    wave

    I found Waldo!!!

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