The Blue Board

I'm pretty sure that non-union members get benefits from union contracts.

He's a lawyer. Not saying he works for a union, but lawyers are the people that make the most off them.

Note: I am a democrat, but also anti-union in most situations.

Uphill both ways.

The majority of revenue unions take on is from employer contributions anyway. It's likely many of these CBA's will be written so that employer contributions will remain relatively consistent. The hit will come from those individuals that won't remit on their behalf. However, much less revenue is made off of individual remittances.

The biggest threat to the unions is the reduced leverage they will have with a potential of losing members. Many seem to think unions offer better wages and benefits in comparison to private employers. This just isn't true. Indiana is a great example. Many guys that are members of unions will do union work with union employers and non union work with non union employers. It hasn't really destroyed many unions in Indiana. In fact, a lot of electricians for example, have done work for foreign auto-manufacturers while also doing union work for something like a parking garage.

It's far from the end of unions. It will likely create a bit more competition for unions to get the best possible deal for their employees. It may hurt the union in the short term, but it may very well help the individuals in the long run.

To make things even more complicated. Employers pay less to the individuals to make up for union contributions. By taking money out of the employer's hands, they often have a certain amount of dues go towards funds that are kept by unions to subsidize bids on jobs. Union employers have a tough time bidding against non-union employers. To curb the competition, unions contribute to those bids to help the union employers.

Again, I think the competition will help out in the long run. People are just scared of change, even the democrats.

Read my post on the previous page.

Not only am I not working for a union, but I'm in no way involved with labor law, nor do I ever intend to do labor law. Saying that lawyers make the most off of unions is, for lack of a better term, silly. It's the type of generic "blame-the-lawyer" ridiculousness that comes from someone who doesn't know to what extent lawyers are involved in or how much they profit from labor disputes.

No, Wisconsin doesn't have a balanced budget. Wisconsin's budget is balanced this year, under the cash accounting method. However, under the accrual accounting method (the preferred GAAP option, a method that Scott Walker cited in arguing for state healthcare cuts, and the method that almost every state uses in its accounting), Wisconsin is looking at a $3billion deficit over the next two years.

Wisconsin doesn't have RTW. I'm pretty sure they got ride of CBA for public sector unions.

Please point me to this thread you speak of.

I do work for a corporate law firm, but you make an incredible amount of assumptions and unfounded extrapolations in thinking you know anything about me.

As for your attempts at insulting my worldview, it's just sad. You speak like you're some authority on world views. How about you provide a single shred of evidence for your opinion of me?

EDIT: When I form opinions of people, I base it on something - typically, them being wrong about something that's easily provable. You, on the other hand, have yet to provide anything of the sort.

I just think you're political opinion is immature and utopic. It will change once you get out of academia. It's not that my view is empirical, not even close. I would never claim to have a better opinion than anyone else. I've just always been the type to hold my elders, for lack of a better term, in high esteem and they've been been almost prophetic when it comes to political ideology...and I see it in your situation and find if amusing.

CMXI. Make sure you keep all the dates straight for the paperwork you are doing while you're shaking down companies.

Aww, you're cute. Still can't play with the big boys intellectually, but you just try so darn hard.

I know right? I am just not on the same level as an intellectual big boy such yourself. I wish I could recite all the things my liberal professors tried to brainwash me with.

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