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  • Rebel_30 said...

    This!
    The funny thing is that the scientists that are doing this probably believe in evolution and natural selection. If they do this does that mean they don't believe natural selection? Haha!

    wut?

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  • sf2k4 said...

    wut?

    never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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  • Rebel_30 said...

    This! The funny thing is that the scientists that are doing this probably believe in evolution and natural selection. If they do this does that mean they don't believe natural selection? Haha!

    Nope, couldn't resist: That's like saying that, because we invented antibiotics and medicine, we don't believe in natural selection. Disease is supposed to be one of mother nature's ways of keeping populations in check. The key word in natural selection is natural. You really think raising something from the dead is natural?

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  • as long as they let the panda go gently into the night, i'm cool

    fffffking pandas

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  • Dude I'd bring back a pet T Rex and train it to fvck people up.

    So Merican

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  • Ichabod said...

    Dude I'd bring back a pet T Rex and train it to fvck people up.

    So Merican

    Velociraptors, dude. Velociraptors.

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  • The genetic diversity required to avoid an extinction vortex would make this nearly impossible.

    Edit: God dammit, ramssuperbowl already said this.

    This post was edited by SCirish843 on 3/8/2013 at 1:37 AM

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  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    Google stem cell research, genetic engineering, etc. etc.

    We're screwing with the human genome as much as we can.

    Genetic engineering geared toward eliminating birth defects and other common health problems as we age should be the first order of business. In the future you should be able to guarentee yourself a healthy child at conception and not be faced with having to abort a fetus at 5 months if it has serious problems. Insurance companies or the government should have no problem covering the costs of such procedures when you factor in the amount of money that could be saved by not having to cover children with serious defects. The costs of treating one disabled child for life in some cases reaches 10 million dollars.

    I could see insurance companies offering huge discounts for genteically engineered people. But i think you have to approach it as a preventative measure and not tinker with the genetic code in order to get a super human thats insanely intelligent with perfect looks and an NFL style body. Thats just weird and would be looked at as another race of people almost that would be preferred over non engineered people. That would be a disaster and lead to a whole new level of class discrimination like in Gattaca. Its a very complicated and complex issue that would be hard to regulate.

    To me the perfect situation would be to be born perfectly healthy with no predisposistions for any health problems as we age and slow down or halt aging at around 30 but leave our biological life clock alone where its impossible to live past 120. Living forever is good for no one but living to 100 in the body of a 30 year old would be cool. What im most interested in is regrowth of certain tissues. Like say youre like me and have had 3 meniscus suregeries on one knee and are down to hardly any cartliage left. It would be mighty helpful if you could trigger your body to regrow that tissue instead of having to replace it by surgery, which should be possible very soon. I see no problem with taking your own cells and telling them to grow into cartliage for your knee that could then be implanted.

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  • Play

    Stewart Brand: The dawn of de-extinction. ...

    Throughout humankind's history, we've driven species after species extinct: the passenger pigeon, the Eastern mountain lion, the dodo .... But now, says Stewart Brand, we have the technology (and the biology) to bring back species that humanity wiped out. So -- should we? Which ones? He asks a big question whose answer is closer than you may think. TEDTalks is a daily video podcast of the best talks and performances from the TED Conference, where the world's leading thinkers and doers give the talk of their lives in 18 minutes (or less). Look for talks on Technology, Entertainment and Design -- plus science, business, global issues, the arts and much more. Find closed captions and translated subtitles in many languages at http://www.ted.com/translate Follow TED news on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/tednews Like TED on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TED Subscribe to our channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/TEDtalksDirector

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  • sf2k4 said...

    You really think raising something from the dead is natural?

    My point exactly.

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  • Within 50 years the singularity will have occurred. Transhumanism and genetic modification will be the norm. It is inevitable IMO.

    Maybe I've just read too much sci-fi

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  • Lol it is next to impossible. Dinosaurs, never going to happen. Ice age mammals not in our lifetime. Things that went extinct in the last ten years, maybe in a couple decades.

    I have been doing some DNA experiments in lab and damn the stuff is hard to work with.

    Someday we might mimic a few creatures like Mammoths and Dinosaurs but I don't see real true 100% perfect DNA species ever walking around.

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  • Ichabod said...

    Dude I'd bring back a pet T Rex and train it to fvck people up.

    So Merican

    Put guns on them and make them fight in wars! gun

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  • Rebel_30 said...

    My point exactly.

    No. Not at all. Us being able to bring back extinct animals does not disprove natural selection. What kind of crazy round-a-bout "logic" are you using here?

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  • sf2k4 said...

    No. Not at all. Us being able to bring back extinct animals does not disprove natural selection. What kind of crazy round-a-bout "logic" are you using here?

    Depends on the reasoning for the extinction. But yes, if a species died out because of climate and/or competition then yes, according to natural selection it would be pointless bring them back unless we treated them like Pandas.

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  • sf2k4 said...

    No. Not at all. Us being able to bring back extinct animals does not disprove natural selection. What kind of crazy round-a-bout "logic" are you using here?

    Wasn't trying to "disprove" natural selection. Saying if you believe in natural selection, why would you try to bring something extinct back. It was naturally selected to be extinct.
    Goodness you missed the sarcasm of my original post....

    Sheldon? Is that you? "bazinga"

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  • didn't you people see Jurassic Park 3?

    turrable idea

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  • Rebel_30 said...

    Wasn't trying to "disprove" natural selection. Saying if you believe in natural selection, why would you try to bring something extinct back. It was naturally selected to be extinct.
    Goodness you missed the sarcasm of my original post....

    Sheldon? Is that you? "bazinga"

    That's like asking why would we invent antibiotics since disease is a natural form of population control.

    And hell, at the end of the day, why not? Who knows what incredible things scientists will discover while attempting to do this.

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  • sf2k4 said...

    That's like asking why would we invent antibiotics since disease is a natural form of population control.

    And hell, at the end of the day, why not? Who knows what incredible things scientists will discover while attempting to do this.

    If you are a believer in natural selection this shouldn't be considered. Antibiotics aren't selected. They were stumbled upon and the one that started it all is natural.
    Anyway, this is dumb. I don't agree with you, you don't agree with me. I'm ok with that. My original post was a joke and at the same time meant to get a rise out of someone. You were the lucky one this time. Lol
    Thanks for playing. HottyToddy

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  • Rebel_30 said...

    If you are a believer in natural selection this shouldn't be considered. Antibiotics aren't selected. They were stumbled upon and the one that started it all is natural.

    huh

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