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needs to be an 8 team play off

  • 8 teams... keep the BCS rankings the same way they are now with maybe just a touch more emphasis on SoS.
    1. Top 8 teams regardless of conference affiliation or conference championship 1st week in dec
    2. 1-4 get to host the first round of games at home
    3. Losers get shuffled out to a traditional bowl held on Jan 1
    4. Second round consists of 2 games at neutral sites cycling between North West, South West, South East, North East, and Midwest Locations 3rd week of Dec
    5. Losers get shuffled out to a traditional bowl held on Jan 1
    6. Championship game is held at neutral site not used for second round on the Saturday following Jan 1

    This post was edited by OmegaBuckeye on 6/1/2012 at 10:49 AM

    We are both atheists. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours

    OmegaBuckeye

  • and it begins

    theharbinater

  • And we could add a play-in game between #8 and the FCS champ. Yeah, that's the ticket.

    MrWoodson

  • I love the fact that every person with a new/different idea on the playoff system thinks they have it figured out.

    BMoney41747

  • Because this wasn't beaten to death in the Saban thread?

    And I hate this suggestion, only thing I like are home field and 8 teams.

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  • *B-Money* said...

    I love the fact that every person with a new/different idea on the playoff system thinks they have it figured out.

    I love the fact that every person who thinks they have a new/different idea doesn't.

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 6/1/2012 at 11:06 AM

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  • MrWoodson said...

    I love the fact that everyone who thinks they have a new/different idea doesn't.

    You could say that about absolutly everything posted on the interwebs message boards.

    We are both atheists. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours

    OmegaBuckeye

  • OmegaBuckeye said...

    You could say that about absolutly everything posted on the interwebs message boards.

    Sorry, no harm intended. Just poking a little fun.

    MrWoodson

  • Not gonna happen

    Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

    MJRuffalo

  • I thought we were talking about this in the other thread? why a new thread?

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    Dawg E Style161

  • Dawg E. Style said...

    I thought we were talking about this in the other thread? why a new thread?

    Sometimes we have to regroup and start over. Only then, can you change someone's mind!

    Not a knock on the OP. Just tBB satire.

    BetterOff

  • BetterOff said...

    Sometimes we have to regroup and start over. Only then, can you change someone's mind!

    Not a knock on the OP. Just tBB satire.

    OK, I just reloaded lol

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    Dawg E Style161

  • I agree with 8 playoff games. Disagree strongly with both keeping the BCS and more emphasis on SOS. Already too much emphasis on SOS.

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    psubills62

  • psubills62 said...

    I agree with 8 playoff games. Disagree strongly with both keeping the BCS and more emphasis on SOS. Already too much emphasis on SOS.

    The problem is that most SOS formulas suck. I consider sagarin the gold standard, but with such a small data set 1 or 2 fluky outcomes can throw a major wrench into it. Biggest issue is some conferences play 9 games and some just 8, and as minor as that looks it really screws with the SOS formulas.

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    MJRuffalo

  • SOS means nothing until the end of the season

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  • Dawg E. Style said...

    SOS means nothing until the end of the season

    Who suggested any differently?

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    MJRuffalo

  • MJRuffalo said...

    The problem is that most SOS formulas suck. I consider sagarin the gold standard, but with such a small data set 1 or 2 fluky outcomes can throw a major wrench into it. Biggest issue is some conferences play 9 games and some just 8, and as minor as that looks it really screws with the SOS formulas.

    That's part of it.

    Another problem is the assumption that SOS determines how good a team is. Would Alabama be worse of a team if they played a MAC schedule vs. an SEC schedule? This season alone proves the point - LSU had probably one of the strongest schedules ever out there...but Alabama was obviously the better team.

    SOS is a factor...but overall it's extremely overrated when it comes to judging the strength of teams.

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  • psubills62 said...

    That's part of it.

    Another problem is the assumption that SOS determines how good a team is. Would Alabama be worse of a team if they played a MAC schedule vs. an SEC schedule? This season alone proves the point - LSU had probably one of the strongest schedules ever out there...but Alabama was obviously the better team.

    SOS is a factor...but overall it's extremely overrated when it comes to judging the strength of teams.

    Combo of SOS and margin of victory and of course record. Good teams can prove their worth against a poor schedule by thumping their opponents. I do not believe that SOS is correctly accounted for.

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    MJRuffalo

  • I don't have any great ideas, but I do wish it were 8 teams instead of just four. We're going to have the same issues we had with the BCS. Someone is going to get left out who deserves a shot. Now, even with 8 teams there will still be teams out there who feel left out, but their argument wouldn't be nearly as legit.

    swampchomp615

  • swampchomp615 said...

    I don't have any great ideas, but I do wish it were 8 teams instead of just four. We're going to have the same issues we had with the BCS. Someone is going to get left out who deserves a shot. Now, even with 8 teams there will still be teams out there who feel left out, but their argument wouldn't be nearly as legit.

    Love the honesty here. None of us have great ideas and neither does anyone else either. We are going to use the least b!tched about idea, I believe. Still won't make it great.

    BetterOff

  • In my opinion what needs to happen is the development of 4 super conferences, let’s say 16 teams each. With 16 teams you play 7 division games, 3 cross division games and 2 out of conference games. The out of conference games must be from one of the 4 super conferences (no more Murray States). This will help maintain rivalries such as FSU UF and leave for opportunities to have interesting matchups like FSU OU from last year. Your conference standing is determined by your record including your out of conference games, just like the NFL. We have 4 conference championship games (an 8 team playoff). The winner of the BIG10 and PAC10 play in the Rose Bowl and the winner of the SEC and BIG 12 play in the Sugar Bowl. The winner of those games play in the Cotton Bowl national title in Dallas (could be any other bowl, just my preference). All other bowls can still be played as they do now.

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  • cembros said...

    In my opinion what needs to happen is the development of 4 super conferences, let’s say 16 teams each. With 16 teams you play 7 division games, 3 cross division games and 2 out of conference games. The out of conference games must be from one of the 4 super conferences (no more Murray States). This will help maintain rivalries such as FSU UF and leave for opportunities to have interesting matchups like FSU OU from last year. Your conference standing is determined by your record including your out of conference games, just like the NFL. We have 4 conference championship games (an 8 team playoff). The winner of the BIG10 and PAC10 play in the Rose Bowl and the winner of the SEC and BIG 12 play in the Sugar Bowl. The winner of those games play in the Cotton Bowl national title in Dallas (could be any other bowl, just my preference). All other bowls can still be played as they do now.

    so what do we do with the other half of the teams not in these super conferences?

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  • WE do notthing. They get left out. Are you really going to miss North Texas?

    cembros ●

  • cembros said...

    In my opinion what needs to happen is the development of 4 super conferences, let’s say 16 teams each. With 16 teams you play 7 division games, 3 cross division games and 2 out of conference games. The out of conference games must be from one of the 4 super conferences (no more Murray States). This will help maintain rivalries such as FSU UF and leave for opportunities to have interesting matchups like FSU OU from last year. Your conference standing is determined by your record including your out of conference games, just like the NFL. We have 4 conference championship games (an 8 team playoff). The winner of the BIG10 and PAC10 play in the Rose Bowl and the winner of the SEC and BIG 12 play in the Sugar Bowl. The winner of those games play in the Cotton Bowl national title in Dallas (could be any other bowl, just my preference). All other bowls can still be played as they do now.

    I think you'll find with 64 teams, some teams that shouldn't get left out. There's 62 in the Big 5 and that's not even counting schools like Rutgers, UCONN, Louisville, USF, Cincy, Houston, SDSU, Fresno, Hawaii, Colorado St, Boise St, Southern Miss, BYU, Notre Dame and some others that really shouldn't be left out either.

    Number would have to be closer 80.

    BetterOff

  • I disagree, I feel that most of the teams you mentioned can be left out including teams from the ACC like Duke BC and Wake. BC and Wake have had some great accomplishments (including embarrassing my Noles on several occasions) but they bring nothing to the table. I've seen high school teams that invest more in football than Duke, they are a joke. As for basketball, we've seen that conference affiliation means next to nothing. Sure Buttler played in the title match 2 yrs in a row.

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