The Blue Board

It's becoming more and more difficult to have an abortion. Mississippi,Virginia,and Michigan are essentially closing all of them in their state. Most rules say you have to have waiting periods before and pre-visits with all these other rules.

It's already taboo and emotionally stressful enough, but now you have to take off work twice or more, drive half-way across state or across state lines,sit in a doctor's office and listen to some speel written by a bunch of males in said state's congress and "pro-life" groups, go back home and then do the same thing all over again. Moreover, said regulations and rules add to the cost of said procedure which only makes it more inaccessible to women who are less off (who need it most).

Ahh but this is actually pretty genius idea from the Obama campaign. Right now, the biggest impendiment to an Obama re-election is not the economy - the majority of Americans believe Bush is still at fault for our current situation, while not really understanding it's actually Clinton if we have to blame someone - and don't trust Romney's economics. Basically, the economy puts Romney at striking distance of Obama. It's basically steady right now, it won't get worse, and will probably slightly improve going forward. Where is this election going to be decided? Voter turnout. Obama has somewhat struggled to gain 08 enthusiasm among Blacks, hispanic, and the young. This stuff is like catnip to them.

Then there's the inherent trap in all of this. The stronger the Republicans come out against, and is Romney promises to end this executive order on Day 1? The more he fires up hispanics to vate against him, and for Obama.

It'll change the % points a little bit in Obama's favor, I think, but the greater impact is in enthusiasm.

Who's Obam? In Michigan, the GOP is like the gestapo. Our governor has taken over cities and school boards and has cut off funding to them.

They are brown.

So Romney was actually somewhat smart about this:

"I believe the status of young people who come here through no fault of their own is an important matter to be considered, and it should be resolved on a long-term basis.

"I believe the status of young people who come here through no fault of their own is an important matter on a long term basis so they know what their future will be in this country. I think the action that the president took today makes it more difficult to reach that longterm solution because an executive order is, of course, just a short term matter. It could be reversed by some president."

"I happen to agree with Marco Rubio. He said that this is an important matter. We have to find a long term solution but that the presidents action makes reaching a longterm solution more difficult. If I'm president we'll do our very best to have that kind of long term solution that provides certainty and clarity for the people who come into this country, through no fault of their own, by virtue of the action of their parents"

Romney did not respond to questions as to whether he would reverse the order if elected.

That's the problem with Republicans they try to run everyone else's lives. Telling people who can get married and telling women what they can do with their babies.

btw, Rubio and Romney said something hilarious there, which is "we need a long term solution!". Who the heck do they think has been BLOCKING a long term solution, which meant the only path Obama had was by executive order? And at some point, Romney is going to have to answer if he'd reverse this order as President.

I am center left, and I'm here to tell you that #2 is an absolutely absurd reason for an abortion.

See, that's the problem though - I understand where you're coming from, but if we start going by "when you believe someone is alive" then abortions will be illegal in a heartbeat. If we go by scientific evidence, for which the standard of "alive" is viability outside the womb, then a woman is still permitted early term abortions, and by the time a fetus is viable outside the womb, most doctors won't perform an abortion anyways due to health concerns for the mother (unless the birth itself would cause even more complications).

I'm not contesting the availability of late-term abortions, I'm arguing against the ridiculous notion that a woman shouldn't ever be able to get an abortion.

Much like how states with "Abstinence-only" sex education policies have the highest rates of teen pregnancy...

I'm not sure where Obama has ever pushed for amnesty. I'm pretty sure his immigration platform has only gone as far as the DREAM Act, which is highly supported by Dems and Indepedents.

I like how you stopped reading my post and/or selectively quoted it. Like I said before, pro-choice supporters use attacks on the right to have an abortion, not the act of abortion itself, to whip up their base. Anti-abortion supporters use the act itself to whip up their base.