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  • del taki said...

    The problem with all of you saying something needed to be done but this wasnt it is that if the supreme court strikes down the entire law then there will never in your lifetime be another healthcare law aimed at actually fixing the mess. It will be a grenade that no politician will want to get close to.

    All the arguing is bs. The fact is that people's lives are on the line with this decision. If the law is struck down completely then people will die who otherwise could have lived somewhat normal lives. It's not a fact of "being poor" or "being lazy". What would you do if your daughter had a deadly disease that cost $50,000 a month without insurance? What if no insurance company would cover her care? Then all of a sudden a law is passed and she can get care and she is living her life. then a few years later that law gets repealed and your daughter is dropped from insurance again and will die without the medical care that costs $50,000 a month.

    This situation will be playing out with thousands of families if this law is struck down.

    Look, taco, there is no "mess". There is no need for a law fixing anything. The government needs to keep its GD hands off of healthcare. I do hope you're right though. I hope there's never another bill in my lifetime or my son's "aimed at fixing" this system. People's lives ARE on the line. That's why fools like you need to GTFO.

    Pink Sock

  • Dr.Stache said...

    Someone's looking to be banned so he can have an out. No one is worried about you. No one cares about you and I'm quite certain your wife thinks you're weak and can't afford her insurance. One day your manly wife is gonna wake up, look at you and slap you for being you.

    ha ha ha...

    my wife would kick your ass... you know it.

    cuz you a bitch.

    my wife is way out of my league, and more gangster than anyone you know... and if she asked me, i would cut your head off and give it to her for a present.

    if you ever want to find out for real, pm me, we will get together, and my wife will watch me choke you til we smell shit.

    anytime, homeboy. any motherfuckin time.

    This post was edited by GoingLightBarny on 3/28/2012 at 11:29 AM

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  • GoingLightBarny said...

    ha ha ha...

    my wife would kick your ass... you know it.

    cuz you a bitch.

    my wife is way out of my league, and more gangster than anyone you know... and if she asked me, i would cut your head off and give it to her for a present.

    if you ever want to find out for real, pm me, we will get together, and my wife will watch me choke you til we smell shit.

    anytime, homeboy. any motherfuckin time.

    Haha. You so crazy.

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  • GoingLightBarny said...

    ha ha ha...

    my wife would kick your ass... you know it.

    cuz you a bitch.

    my wife is way out of my league, and more gangster than anyone you know... and if she asked me, i would cut your head off and give it to her for a present.

    if you ever want to find out for real, pm me, we will get together, and my wife will watch me choke you til we smell shit.

    anytime, homeboy. any motherfuckin time.

    ITT, Barney's wife is a man and gangsta. Is she Snoop? And Barney's an E-tough guy who keeps trying to get me to PM him. What's a PM gonna do? Do you think I'm going to fly out to Denver, kick your ass and have sex with your wife? Your life is sad enough without all that occurring.

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  • Pink Sock said...

    Look, taco, there is no "mess". There is no need for a law fixing anything. The government needs to keep its GD hands off of healthcare. I do hope you're right though. I hope there's never another bill in my lifetime or my son's "aimed at fixing" this system. People's lives ARE on the line. That's why fools like you need to GTFO.

    You really don't think the healthcare and insurance industries are broken? At all?

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  • GoingLightBarny said...

    ha ha ha... you bunch of fuckin pussies...

    pm me when you are in denver...

    that is all...

    i would love to toss one of you faggots up... fuckin douchebags

    this board is a bunch of fucking faggot spoiled bitch ass pussies who really never had nothing hard in their fuckin life...

    you come to denver, i will show you my credentials, see what you wanna do... we can stab each other, shoot at each other, fight, it's all up to you fuckin milquetoast cocksuckers...

    you fucking bitch asses

    the funniest thing about it is... when you all fall on hard times, you are the first motherfuckers to run around with your fuckin hand out...

    i make shit happen.

    i am not a fuckin liberal, i am a fuckin anarchist, a fuckin nihilist, and i wish all you fuckin jackboot fuckin morons would die. i hope your kids die so this country can not be filled with dummy fuckin cocksuckers that sit around and beg the fuckin rich for their semen...

    you fuckin wanna go? pm me... that;s all you fuckin pussies gotta do. i

    Dang, take a break Barney. Most of that is unnecessary.

    xxmgobluexx

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Dang, take a break Barney. Most of that is unnecessary.

    Simple Jack's are notoriously committed to the cause. It's his cross to bare.

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  • sf2k4 said...

    You really don't think the healthcare and insurance industries are broken? At all?

    Wait until his premiums,co-pays,and deductible all fly through the roof. He'll be singing a different tune.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Wait until his premiums,co-pays,and deductible all fly through the roof. He'll be singing a different tune.

    I mean, my father's a cardiologist, and I hear all the time how long-term patients of his can no longer afford treatment or their insurance is no longer covering it. I'm talking people he's been seeing for a decade or more in some cases.

    This post was edited by sf2k4 on 3/28/2012 at 11:40 AM

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  • sf2k4 said...

    You really don't think the healthcare and insurance industries are broken? At all?

    No, I don't. I think government intervention has made them less than perfectly efficient, but I do love what the systems themselves have been able to provide for me and my family in spite of the government's intrusions.

    Pink Sock

  • sf2k4 said...

    I mean, my father's a cardiologist, and I hear all the time how long-term patients of his can no longer afford treatment or their insurance is no longer covering it. I'm talking people he's been seeing for a decade or more in some cases.

    Costs go up,they can not afford so much coverage. Costs go up higher, can't afford it all. Get sick,go to the hospital. Hospital raises costs,insurance raises costs. Rinse. Repeat.

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  • Pink Sock said...

    No, I don't. I think government intervention has made them less than perfectly efficient, but I do love what the systems themselves have been able to provide for me and my family in spite of the government's intrusions.

    Please do expound these intrusions.

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  • Pink Sock said...

    No, I don't. I think government intervention has made them less than perfectly efficient, but I do love what the systems themselves have been able to provide for me and my family in spite of the government's intrusions.

    I'm not saying government intervention is the answer, but there have been issues with the healthcare and insurance industries long before Obamacare became a thing. Just because you and I have been fortunate enough to do okay doesn't mean a lot of people have been. If you want to hear about people being screwed over by their insurance (and I'm talking hardworking, WWII era Americans who have never gotten handouts in their lives) talk to my father. He sees it all the time.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Wait until his premiums,co-pays,and deductible all fly through the roof. He'll be singing a different tune.

    Dude, if you got your way, we'd all have cheap coverage that isn't worth having. After the quality of care is reduced, we'll all be crying. You can't have good health care if you aren't willing to pay for it. That's just life. I wish you weren't too damn stupid to see that. Your lack of intelligence is a liability to us all.

    Pink Sock

  • sf2k4 said...

    I'm not saying government intervention is the answer, but there have been issues with the healthcare and insurance industries long before Obamacare became a thing. Just because you and I have been fortunate enough to do okay doesn't mean a lot of people have been. If you want to hear about people being screwed over by their insurance (and I'm talking hardworking, WWII era Americans who have never gotten handouts in their lives) talk to my father. He sees it all the time.

    Yes you are. That's exactly what you're saying. Now please explain to us all that you aren't a liberal. I know that's coming next.

    Pink Sock

  • Dr.Stache said...

    ITT, Barney's wife is a man and gangsta. Is she Snoop? And Barney's an E-tough guy who keeps trying to get me to PM him. What's a PM gonna do? Do you think I'm going to fly out to Denver, kick your ass and have sex with your wife? Your life is sad enough without all that occurring.

    if you ever did make it to denver, i will fuckin brain you

    tell you what, i will be in oklahoma soon, and hopefully texas soon... we get up... i might come your way, we can film this, make it an event, me breakin you into peices...

    we can get sanctioned as an amatuer event, you ever grow a sack, you fuckin faggot. ha ha ha... you fuckin pussy

    prolly ain't ever even been in a fight.

    your fuckin mom's a cunt
    your dad's a faggot
    your kids, i hope they die
    your wife, i hope she gets raped
    your family, i hope they get caught in another tornado and immolated by fragments of your kids' bones...

    what else?

    you got anything more slick to say? fuckin woman.

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  • GoingLightBarny said...

    if you ever did make it to denver, i will fuckin brain you

    tell you what, i will be in oklahoma soon, and hopefully texas soon... we get up... i might come your way, we can film this, make it an event, me breakin you into peices...

    we can get sanctioned as an amatuer event, you ever grow a sack, you fuckin faggot. ha ha ha... you fuckin pussy

    prolly ain't ever even been in a fight.

    your fuckin mom's a cunt
    your dad's a faggot
    your kids, i hope they die
    your wife, i hope she gets raped
    your family, i hope they get caught in another tornado and immolated by fragments of your kids' bones...

    what else?

    you got anything more slick to say? fuckin woman.

    Barney, me kicking your ass isn't going to solve your problems. Neither emotionally or financially. A better job and a psychiatrist however may help.

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  • Pink Sock said...

    Dude, if you got your way, we'd all have cheap coverage that isn't worth having. After the quality of care is reduced, we'll all be crying. You can't have good health care if you aren't willing to pay for it. That's just life. I wish you weren't too damn stupid to see that. Your lack of intelligence is a liability to us all.

    The problem is good health care costs more and more every year, whether it's because of simple supply and demand or the expenses associated with new (and now the norm) tests, etc. Men and women who have been retired for years have a fixed amount of money while they're retired and quite honestly I don't want to see some man who busted his ass from the day he was born in 1940 until he retired in 2010 have to go back to work at a Wal-Mart just to be able to afford cardio care because his insurance decided it's premium raise time. I don't want him to get free care or less quality care but he deserves better IMO.

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  • Pink Sock said...

    Dude, if you got your way, we'd all have cheap coverage that isn't worth having. After the quality of care is reduced, we'll all be crying. You can't have good health care if you aren't willing to pay for it. That's just life. I wish you weren't too damn stupid to see that. Your lack of intelligence is a liability to us all.

    This has literally nothing to do with my point.
    The market effects out of your control are going to skyrocket your insurance costs and then you'll be demanding someone do something about the problems. Otherwise you'd be a fvcking moron.

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  • Pink Sock said...

    Yes you are. That's exactly what you're saying. Now please explain to us all that you aren't a liberal. I know that's coming next.

    The government running and ruling our lives is in no way the solution so no, I'm not going to say that just because you want to hear it. However, the fact you have no problem with big business simply screwing everyone over (and basically pissing all over capitalism) makes you no better than a big government crony IMO. You just like getting screwed in the other end.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Please do expound these intrusions.

    So you're really too stupid to see that the government sticking it's nose into every aspect of health care, how products and services reach the market, how they're provided, how they are priced, etc, etc, etc, has reduced the quality of the care we receive without someone spelling it out to you? Regardless of the purity of your intentions, you really do need to STFU and stop bringing harm to your fellow man.

    Pink Sock

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    This has literally nothing to do with my point.
    The market effects out of your control are going to skyrocket your insurance costs and then you'll be demanding someone do something about the problems. Otherwise you'd be a fvcking moron.

    Who will pay for the services? GD, you are about the stupidest person I've ever argued with. Damn, someone is going to pay or there won't be any health care at all. No one will develop new technologies that keep us healthy if there isn't money in it and if you have your way, there won't be money in it. How can a person be as fkng stupid as you are? If there is one place I DON'T want government sticking its nose, and there are plenty, but if I could only choose one area, it would be this one. This is just too important to let idiots like you screw up. Just STFU before you unwittingly harm us all. Idiot.

    Pink Sock

  • Insurance is about like gas prices.... If you need it.... You might as well bend over and take it up the butt.... There's no easy solution to it unless everyone just stopped buying gas or stopped going to the doctor...

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  • sf2k4 said...

    The government running and ruling our lives is in no way the solution so no, I'm not going to say that just because you want to hear it. However, the fact you have no problem with big business simply screwing everyone over (and basically pissing all over capitalism) makes you no better than a big government crony IMO. You just like getting screwed in the other end.

    Screw you. How is telling the government to butt the fk out akin to pissing on capitalism? That's the dumbest damn thing I've ever heard.

    Pink Sock

  • Pink Sock said...

    Screw you. How is telling the government to butt the fk out akin to pissing on capitalism? That's the dumbest damn thing I've ever heard.

    Because capitalism is built upon the competition of the free market. There is no "free market" in healthcare and insurance. It's an industry that has become a necessity and is treated as one big oligopoly. Your premium isn't determined by supply and demand anymore, it's determined by how much money can they drain from you each month while still covering you for as little as possible. I'm fine with them making money, that's the whole damn point, but not when the competition is gone and you're screwing people over about the most important thing in this country: their well being.

    We live in a country where either the government drains my pockets or big business does. It really sucks to be a consumer.

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