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protein powder vs whole food

  • Which is better in regards to building muscle?

    ChopNole20

  • Both.. food is always better unless you need to cut calories.. thats when a lean protein shake comes in handy.

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    Nolein3D

  • Synthesized protein in powders will work faster, but there are some people (my wife) who caution against too much animal or soy protein. She's a Whole Foods extremist while my son consumes that powder by the cup-full. It drives her nuts.

    Like anything, moderation is important.

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    Due51

  • you need to meet your macro goals, the difference in proteins is negligible compared to getting ENOUGH. personally I would just use protein isolate powders when not getting enough from whole foods....ie when you are cutting hard. its meant as a supplement, not to replace whole foods.

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    cockengr

  • Whole foods is better, but that's not to say protein shakes are useless.

    TNoles813

  • T-Noles813 said...

    Whole foods is better, but that's not to say protein shakes are useless.

    Go with an all natural Whey protein or Rice protein. Great source of amino acids. Whatever you decide to go with, ensure that it does not have any artificial sweetners in it, they will back you up.

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  • cockengr said...

    you need to meet your macro goals, the difference in proteins is negligible compared to getting ENOUGH. personally I would just use protein isolate powders when not getting enough from whole foods....ie when you are cutting hard. its meant as a supplement, not to replace whole foods.

    This. Another thing to keep in mind is that approximately 85% of people have some form of allergic reaction to dairy, and although it is usually lactose intolerance(and whey protein is obviously low in lactose) it is not always. A lot of people have some pretty bad side effects from whey, my roommate for one is very allergic to whey itself and can consume almost no dairy or dairy derivatives. There are many options today such as egg, soy, and pea proteins but they still do not generally contain the micronutrient profile of good whole food. As Cock mentioned, it is called a supplement for a reason.

    stoptothink

  • I finally joined a gym and started a post-work regiment. Haven't dabbled into the protein powder/shakes yet. Primarily because when I used them in high school they tasted disgusting and made me sick. If they tasted better and I didn't have to mix them with milk then I'd be more open to using them.

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  • FSU Bear said...

    I finally joined a gym and started a post-work regiment. Haven't dabbled into the protein powder/shakes yet. Primarily because when I used them in high school they tasted disgusting and made me sick. If they tasted better and I didn't have to mix them with milk then I'd be more open to using them.

    Stick to chocolate or vanilla. They are usually ok. Also, you can mix with water. Is it true that you lose gains if you dont get some protein within 30 minutes of a workout? Or is that just a myth used by the supplement industry

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  • eastcoastghost said...

    Stick to chocolate or vanilla. They are usually ok. Also, you can mix with water. Is it true that you lose gains if you dont get some protein within 30 minutes of a workout? Or is that just a myth used by the supplement industry

    People argue this all the time, I like to try to get my post mix asap but not sure it makes a difference.

    One of the top post workout drinks is chocolate milk.

    Post-Workout Chocolate Milk

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  • eastcoastghost said...

    Stick to chocolate or vanilla. They are usually ok. Also, you can mix with water. Is it true that you lose gains if you dont get some protein within 30 minutes of a workout? Or is that just a myth used by the supplement industry

    Mostly a myth. It is actually far more important to replenish glycogen stores immediately following a workout. Ideally you'd want a quick digesting carbohydrate(ie. maltodextrin) and a smaller amount of protein, ~3:1 ratio. As cliche as it is, chocolate milk is as close to an ideal post-workout meal as there is; a lot of carbohydrate(mostly simple) and some protein.

    stoptothink

  • eastcoastghost said...

    Stick to chocolate or vanilla. They are usually ok. Also, you can mix with water. Is it true that you lose gains if you dont get some protein within 30 minutes of a workout? Or is that just a myth used by the supplement industry

    It's imperative that you feed yourself following a workout. Returns diminish as the minutes following a work out tick by. Get some nutrition within 30 minutes of a workout. I have an article I send to all my players regarding this topic. I'll get it and link it for you.

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    Due51

  • eastcoastghost said...

    Stick to chocolate or vanilla. They are usually ok. Also, you can mix with water. Is it true that you lose gains if you dont get some protein within 30 minutes of a workout? Or is that just a myth used by the supplement industry

    Not a myth. You want something after you work out to restore your muscle glycogen levels. A mixed of carbs and protein is best.

    Here is a decent article even though from bodybuilding.com

    This post was edited by Michmania on 5/8/2012 at 12:59 PM

    Bodybuilding.com - Solving The Post Workout Puzzle: Part 2 - The Recovery Plan.

    This article gives a recovery plan for refueling the muscle after intense exercise (maximizing post exercise glycogen levels and maximizing post workout protein balance).

    www.bodybuilding.com

    Michmania

  • Michmania said...

    Not a myth. You want something after you work out to restore your muscle glycogen levels. A mixed of carbs and protein is best.

    I understand what you are saying, but you do not replenish glycogen stores through protein consumption unless you are in ketosis. There are a lot of ideas about protein consumption(ie. that you need 1g/Lbs bodyweight for hypertrophy) that have no basis in actual science. Immediately following a workout, protein is secondary if you are trying to increase size/strength. If you are cutting, well that throws all the ideas out the window because of gluconeogenesis. You can survive without any carbohydrate consumption, but your body has no way of converting other substances into protein or fat which are necessary for a host of internal processes. And ketosis is certainly the quickest(short-term) way to cut weight and adipose.

    On a tangent, post-workout fasting actually increases HGH secretion http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC329619/ which is vital in hypertrophy. I would not suggest to fast post-workout all the time, or at all if you are trying to gain weight, but it certainly has some benefits.

    This post was edited by stoptothink on 5/8/2012 at 1:16 PM

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