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Who is better in 2011-12: UK or UNC?

  • I think UK vs UNC is a fascinating storyline to watch for next season. They are the two winningest programs of all-time and both expect to field teams that should rank right up there with their best ever. Some might say it's too early to make such a claim, but I don't think it's out of line to suggest these teams will be special. When you have 7+ future NBA players on your roster, then you can go ahead and book it that you will be awesome.

    So who is better? Personally, I think UNC has more good players, but UK's good players are more elite than UNC's.

    If you ranked the top 15 players from the two teams as far as NBA potential is concerned, then I think I'd rank them like this (personal opinion):

    1. Anthony Davis (UK)
    2. Mike Gilchrist (UK)
    3. Harrison Barnes (UNC)
    4. James McAdoo (UNC)
    5. Marquis Teague (UK)
    6. Terrence Jones (UK)
    7. Doron Lamb (UK)
    8. P.J. Hairston (UNC)
    9. John Henson (UNC)
    10. Kyle Wiltjer (UK)
    11. Tyler Zeller (UNC)
    12. Kendall Marshall (UNC)
    13. Reggie Bullock (UNC)
    14. Darius Miller (UK)
    15. Leslie McDonald (UNC)

    As you can see, I think UK has 5 of the top 7 prospects in that game. You could argue that UNC's experience is an intangible that UK can't match, but I don't think I buy that. For instance, I would take Anthony Davis' talent over Tyler Zeller's experience when they take the court.

    If it was necessary to have a 10-man rotation in basketball, then I might go with UNC. But UK beat UNC last year with a 6-man rotation, and this year they should have a 7-man rotation. I think UK's elite talent pushes them over the top vs UNC. However, UNC will obviously be a terrific team, so it wouldn't surprise me to see them beat UK or make it further in the tourney (i.e., winning the championship).

    What do you think? Who would you take?

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  • I think Im going to take UNC. Just because of Zeller and Barnes...

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  • Colten Jones said... (original post)

    I think UK vs UNC is a fascinating storyline to watch for next season. They are the two winningest programs of all-time and both expect to field teams that should rank right up there with their best ever. Some might say it's too early to make such a claim, but I don't think it's out of line to suggest these teams will be special. When you have 7+ future NBA players on your roster, then you can go ahead and book it that you will be awesome.

    So who is better? Personally, I think UNC has more good players, but UK's good players are more elite than UNC's.

    If you ranked the top 15 players from the two teams as far as NBA potential is concerned, then I think I'd rank them like this (personal opinion):

    1. Anthony Davis (UK) 2. Mike Gilchrist (UK) 3. Harrison Barnes (UNC) 4. James McAdoo (UNC) 5. Marquis Teague (UK) 6. Terrence Jones (UK) 7. Doron Lamb (UK) 8. P.J. Hairston (UNC) 9. John Henson (UNC) 10. Kyle Wiltjer (UK) 11. Tyler Zeller (UNC) 12. Kendall Marshall (UNC) 13. Reggie Bullock (UNC) 14. Darius Miller (UK) 15. Leslie McDonald (UNC)

    As you can see, I think UK has 5 of the top 7 prospects in that game. You could argue that UNC's experience is an intangible that UK can't match, but I don't think I buy that. For instance, I would take Anthony Davis' talent over Tyler Zeller's experience when they take the court.

    If it was necessary to have a 10-man rotation in basketball, then I might go with UNC. But UK beat UNC last year with a 6-man rotation, and this year they should have a 7-man rotation. I think UK's elite talent pushes them over the top vs UNC. However, UNC will obviously be a terrific team, so it wouldn't surprise me to see them beat UK or make it further in the tourney (i.e., winning the championship).

    What do you think? Who would you take?

    3 of your top 7 hasn't played a minute of college basketball. While those players should be good as advertised, got to take UNC hands down. They have their top 7 scorers back. They will be a unanimous preseason #1

  • Colten Jones said... (original post)

    I think Im going to take UNC. Just because of Zeller and Barnes...

    Good choice

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  • wataugavol said... (original post)

    3 of your top 7 hasn't played a minute of college basketball. While those players should be good as advertised, got to take UNC hands down. They have their top 7 scorers back. They will be a unanimous preseason #1

    Not sure that argument holds water anymore. We all saw John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins step right onto the court and dominate. I think Gilchrist, Teague, and Davis will be the same way. It's not like UK is depending on Wiltjer and (potentially) Trevor Lacey to be big contributors right away.

    Like I said, UNC could definitely be better, but I think it's kinda foolish to say that young elite talent can't beat older, slightly lesser talent.

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  • If Bullock and someone else become the outside threat they can be Ill give the edge to Carolina.

  • Alabama said... (original post)

    If Bullock and someone else become the outside threat they can be Ill give the edge to Carolina.

    I think Reggie should be fine,the first year jitters have come and gone hopefully.....

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  • Hey, Carolina fans ... what do you think will be the rotation next year? Give me a minutes per player breakdown for UNC.

    I'll take a stab at Kentucky's:

    PG: Marquis Teague: 32 mpg
    SG: Doron Lamb: 30 mpg
    SF: Mike Gilchrist: 30 mpg
    SF: Darius Miller: 28 mpg
    PF: Terrence Jones: 28 mpg
    PF: Anthony Davis: 28 mpg
    PF: Kyle Wiltjer: 20 mpg
    Scrubs: 4 mpg

    I'll have to tweak this a little if we land Trevor Lacey. I'm also tempted to give Eloy Vargas 5 of Wiltjer's minutes and make it 15 and 5, but Vargas will have to show big time improvement first.

    I'm curious what you guys expect Carolina's to be. How many players will get good run?

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  • Colten Jones said... (original post)

    Hey, Carolina fans ... what do you think will be the rotation next year? Give me a minutes per player breakdown for UNC.

    I'll take a stab at Kentucky's:

    PG: Marquis Teague: 32 mpg SG: Doron Lamb: 30 mpg SF: Mike Gilchrist: 30 mpg SF: Darius Miller: 28 mpg PF: Terrence Jones: 28 mpg PF: Anthony Davis: 28 mpg PF: Kyle Wiltjer: 20 mpg Scrubs: 4 mpg

    I'll have to tweak this a little if we land Trevor Lacey. I'm also tempted to give Eloy Vargas 5 of Wiltjer's minutes and make it 15 and 5, but Vargas will have to show big time improvement first.

    I'm curious what you guys expect Carolina's to be. How many players will get good run?

    That's tricky for me because one i'm not good with the whole minutes thing,and two we are finally deep with talent.I expect to see Desmond get his minutes,i know people are saying he'll see limited minutes,but when our bigs get into foul trouble or momentum change from the opposing teams,and Roy likes subbing five guys for a fresh five guys i think he might see more.

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  • That UK/UNC game at Rupp is going to be awesome! If the NBA does not mandate a 2 or 3 year college wait to jump to the NBA, the 2012 draft will be ridiculous. I think the best solution is what baseball does. Either let someone jump straight from HS to the pro's (whether NBA or other), or they declare amateur status for two years, whether or not that means college is up to them. Two years gets them through community college or a really good start on a university degree, especially if a kid is like Brandon Knight and already coming in with a ton of college credits.

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  • Colten Jones said... (original post)

    Not sure that argument holds water anymore. We all saw John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins step right onto the court and dominate. I think Gilchrist, Teague, and Davis will be the same way. It's not like UK is depending on Wiltjer and (potentially) Trevor Lacey to be big contributors right away.

    Like I said, UNC could definitely be better, but I think it's kinda foolish to say that young elite talent can't beat older, slightly lesser talent.

    we'll agree to disagree. I just don't agree that 2 high school players are better than Barnes and Kendall Marshall number 12 on your list? Come on, he turned around Carolina's season. I'm sorry, the next John Wall isn't in that class. Kentucky's class is bare none #1, but lets remember, Wall and Cousins didnt go to the final four. The better team is Carolina and its not that close

  • Colten Jones said... (original post)

    Not sure that argument holds water anymore. We all saw John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins step right onto the court and dominate. I think Gilchrist, Teague, and Davis will be the same way. It's not like UK is depending on Wiltjer and (potentially) Trevor Lacey to be big contributors right away.

    Like I said, UNC could definitely be better, but I think it's kinda foolish to say that young elite talent can't beat older, slightly lesser talent.

    The talent is pretty equal, not sure where you're getting that UNC has less talent. Roy always says he prefers to have experienced talent, and I agree with that.

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  • Carolina. Period

    I think everyone needs to slow down on the anointment of Anthony Davis. RIGHT NOW, not three years now with the three years of experience at the 4/5 (positions he has only really played for a year) and three years of S&C, RIGHT NOW, Davis does not have the size to dominate on the interior against the size and talent that Carolina has. You can have your NBA projections. I know Calipari will take them for his next one-and-done recruiting cycle. I will look at the the talent as it exists now. Anthony Davis is 6'10" and 200 lbs. That is the same weight that Henson came in at. It is going to be quite an adjustment for Davis dealing the equal length and superior strength that he will face night-in and night-out in college. I am not saying he isn't talented. I am not suggesting he won't be successful. I am saying he doesn't have the strength go 40 minutes against Zeller, Henson, and McAdoo. Even when those guys are on the bench, we are still bring Desmond Hubert off the bench. While he may be raw offensively, Hubert knows how to play defense, block shots, and rebound. Hubert is not an easy match up for Davis. Further Stunting Davis' development will be the lack of quality, i.e. superior length, speed and size, competition in practice at Kentucky. IMHO, Eloy Vargas does not the length, speed, or athleticism to push Davis. His growth is going to depend on in game adjustments. How fast will he be able to figure it out when he isn't going above everyone for offensive rebounds and easy put backs? (I saw a lot of that in the televised games Davis played in this year. Not saying that his game is limited to that, but he did stuff the stat sheet with those plays when I watched him.) Doubt he can jump over box outs at the college level.

    I don't know enough about Michael Gilchrist to offer any quality thoughts for the discussion, but I find it hard to believe that he is better than Harrison Barnes next year. Nothing you can say will make me thinks so. That is something that is going to have to be demonstrated on the court. Until then, Barnes is the better player. Barnes has scored forty points in a game and hit clutch game winners. Barnes is proven. Gilchrist is not.

    Also, I'll take Marshall over Teague, no questions asked. Marshall will cause Teague problems on offense and Dex will cause him problems on defense. On offense, Mashall is: (1) big enough to see over Teague to facilitate the offense, (2) strong enough to control him or body him off the dribble (ask Harrow), and (3) savy enough to take advantage and get into the lane when he wants. On defense, Teague may be quick, but he isn't quick enough to get in the lane with Dex guarding him. Teague doesn't have the jump shot that Brandon Knight does so Dex should have no problems keeping him in front because he doesn't have to honor the jumper.

    I think the most underrated player in the Kentucky class is Kyle Wiltjer. He is literally the only recruit out of this class that I wish would have signed with UNC and didn't. Kid has skills and is a match up nightmare. He has great size, a sweet jump shot, a variety of ways to score close to the basket, and a great basketball I.Q. I am not ashamed to say it. I wish he was a Tar Heel.

    Finally, the intangible. College basketball is a team game. It is not the NBA or an exhibition all-star game and a match-up between UNC and Kentucky will not devolve into a game one-on-one isolations. Team matters. What will the chemistry be like in the Kentucky locker room? Not a lot of senior leadership. Terrence Jones is one of your biggest contributors and, theoretically, should be a team leader. I heard the exchanges between Jones and Calipari during the NCAAT and that is not what the kind of dialogue I want between player and coach, especially with a young team. I actually can't believe Jones came back. Are there any doubts about the chemistry in the UNC locker room? Nope. Our guys are tighter than insert what ever metaphor your care for.

    Starters:
    PG- Marquis Teague < Kendall Marshall
    SG- Darius Miller = Dexter Strickland (both offer intangibles that are hard to quantify)
    SF- Michael Gilchrist < Harrison Barnes
    PF- Terrence Jones < John Henson (look at the numbers from last year)
    C- Anthony Davis < Tyler Zeller (we aren't fortune teller projecting the future 3-5 years from now, TODAY and, TODAY, Davis can't keep Zeller off the lower left block or stop Zeller's baby hook)

    Bench:
    Doron Lamb < P.J. Hairston/Reggie Bullock (Two is better than one and I think Bullock is better than Lamb if he comes back 100% from surgery)
    Kyle Wiltjer < James McAdoo
    Eloy Vargas > Desmond Hubert/Jackson Simmons (Vargas' performance is going to be important to UK's success this season. Is that something you feel comfortable relying on? Maybe he goes all Josh Harrellson next season, but I doubt it.)
    Trevor Lacey < Leslie McDonald

    Long story short, I'll take the Tar Heels.

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    uk no question, look at what calipari does with young talent, plus the boys coming back finally, this is the best recruiting class ever, davids freshmon will be the best player in college basketball, he is the next kevin durant.

  • dea123 said... (original post)

    uk no question, look at what calipari does with young talent, plus the boys coming back finally, this is the best recruiting class ever, davids freshmon will be the best player in college basketball, he is the next kevin durant.

    Who?

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  • yum said... (original post)

    Who?

    I had the same thought. Davids freshmon?

  • wataugavol said... (original post)

    I had the same thought. Davids freshmon?

    Yea,your guess is as good as mine on that one.roflmaoOne things for sure, there is alot of exciting basketball that will be taking place this season.

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  • GoingHeels said... (original post)

    Carolina. Period

    I think everyone needs to slow down on the anointment of Anthony Davis. RIGHT NOW, not three years now with the three years of experience at the 4/5 (positions he has only really played for a year) and three years of S&C, RIGHT NOW, Davis does not have the size to dominate on the interior against the size and talent that Carolina has. You can have your NBA projections. I know Calipari will take them for his next one-and-done recruiting cycle. I will look at the the talent as it exists now. Anthony Davis is 6'10" and 200 lbs. That is the same weight that Henson came in at. It is going to be quite an adjustment for Davis dealing the equal length and superior strength that he will face night-in and night-out in college. I am not saying he isn't talented. I am not suggesting he won't be successful. I am saying he doesn't have the strength go 40 minutes against Zeller, Henson, and McAdoo. Even when those guys are on the bench, we are still bring Desmond Hubert off the bench. While he may be raw offensively, Hubert knows how to play defense, block shots, and rebound. Hubert is not an easy match up for Davis. Further Stunting Davis' development will be the lack of quality, i.e. superior length, speed and size, competition in practice at Kentucky. IMHO, Eloy Vargas does not the length, speed, or athleticism to push Davis. His growth is going to depend on in game adjustments. How fast will he be able to figure it out when he isn't going above everyone for offensive rebounds and easy put backs? (I saw a lot of that in the televised games Davis played in this year. Not saying that his game is limited to that, but he did stuff the stat sheet with those plays when I watched him.) Doubt he can jump over box outs at the college level.

    I don't know enough about Michael Gilchrist to offer any quality thoughts for the discussion, but I find it hard to believe that he is better than Harrison Barnes next year. Nothing you can say will make me thinks so. That is something that is going to have to be demonstrated on the court. Until then, Barnes is the better player. Barnes has scored forty points in a game and hit clutch game winners. Barnes is proven. Gilchrist is not.

    Also, I'll take Marshall over Teague, no questions asked. Marshall will cause Teague problems on offense and Dex will cause him problems on defense. On offense, Mashall is: (1) big enough to see over Teague to facilitate the offense, (2) strong enough to control him or body him off the dribble (ask Harrow), and (3) savy enough to take advantage and get into the lane when he wants. On defense, Teague may be quick, but he isn't quick enough to get in the lane with Dex guarding him. Teague doesn't have the jump shot that Brandon Knight does so Dex should have no problems keeping him in front because he doesn't have to honor the jumper.

    I think the most underrated player in the Kentucky class is Kyle Wiltjer. He is literally the only recruit out of this class that I wish would have signed with UNC and didn't. Kid has skills and is a match up nightmare. He has great size, a sweet jump shot, a variety of ways to score close to the basket, and a great basketball I.Q. I am not ashamed to say it. I wish he was a Tar Heel.

    Finally, the intangible. College basketball is a team game. It is not the NBA or an exhibition all-star game and a match-up between UNC and Kentucky will not devolve into a game one-on-one isolations. Team matters. What will the chemistry be like in the Kentucky locker room? Not a lot of senior leadership. Terrence Jones is one of your biggest contributors and, theoretically, should be a team leader. I heard the exchanges between Jones and Calipari during the NCAAT and that is not what the kind of dialogue I want between player and coach, especially with a young team. I actually can't believe Jones came back. Are there any doubts about the chemistry in the UNC locker room? Nope. Our guys are tighter than insert what ever metaphor your care for.

    Starters: PG- Marquis Teague < Kendall Marshall SG- Darius Miller = Dexter Strickland (both offer intangibles that are hard to quantify) SF- Michael Gilchrist < Harrison Barnes PF- Terrence Jones < John Henson (look at the numbers from last year) C- Anthony Davis < Tyler Zeller (we aren't fortune teller projecting the future 3-5 years from now, TODAY and, TODAY, Davis can't keep Zeller off the lower left block or stop Zeller's baby hook)

    Bench: Doron Lamb < P.J. Hairston/Reggie Bullock (Two is better than one and I think Bullock is better than Lamb if he comes back 100% from surgery) Kyle Wiltjer < James McAdoo Eloy Vargas > Desmond Hubert/Jackson Simmons (Vargas' performance is going to be important to UK's success this season. Is that something you feel comfortable relying on? Maybe he goes all Josh Harrellson next season, but I doubt it.) Trevor Lacey < Leslie McDonald

    Long story short, I'll take the Tar Heels.

    It's hard to address all of your points, and we could go back and forth all day. I just felt the need to reply since you dedicated such a lengthy post to the topic (and I appreciate that since I started the thread!). Most of the stuff you wrote are legit arguments and we'll just have to wait and see how it plays out on the court. But a couple of things stood out to me:

    1. You seem to believe UNC has a big advantage over UK in the post. I just cannot accept the argument that Henson, Zeller, and McAdoo is significantly better (if better at all) than the combination of Jones, Davis, and Wiltjer. Jones should be a pre-season first team All-American, Davis is the #1 recruit in the country according to everyone except Rivals (and he's #2 on their list), and you've already spoken glowingly on Wiltjer. McAdoo is a banger, but I don't foresee Davis being pushed around by Zeller and Henson, who are both skinny guys. No one is confusing them with Jared Sullinger or Zach Randolph.

    2. I think you're underestimating the immediate impact of Teague and Gilchrist. Teague's game is perfect for the DDMO, and I think, until proven otherwise, you have to assume Calipari's freshman PG is going to be an incredible college player. Rose, Evans, Wall, Knight ... I'm going to go ahead and assume that Teague will have similar success. He has the talent.

    As for Gilchrist, that guy will make a big impact right off the bat. He already has a man's body, and he is literally great at everything on the basketball court except for jump shooting. He is an elite defender and rebounder for his position, and he is an elite athlete. He's the type of guy who just blends into the game and goes about his business, but when you look at the box score he'll have 16 pts, 10 rebs, 4 asts, and 2 stls, all while shutting down his man on the defensive end. I think he'll be UK's best player next year, and he might be the best player on the court when UK plays UNC. It should be a great match up between him and Barnes.

    3. And one more thing. You said you'd take Henson over Jones and that we should look at the numbers from last year. Here are their numbers from last year:

    John Henson: 11.7 pts, 10.1 rebs, 3.2 blks
    Terrence Jones: 15.7 pts, 8.8 rebs, 1.9 blks

    Jones scored 4 more ppg, Henson had 1.3 more rpg, and Henson had 1.3 more bpg. I don't think those numbers indicate that Henson is a better or more productive player than Jones.

    Anyway, I can't wait til next year. We should just keep this thread up until the actual game so we can continue the debate.

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  • Colten Jones said... (original post)

    1. McAdoo is a banger, but I don't foresee Davis being pushed around by Zeller and Henson, who are both skinny guys. No one is confusing them with Jared Sullinger or Zach Randolph.

    2. I think you're underestimating the immediate impact of Teague and Gilchrist. Teague's game is perfect for the DDMO, and I think, until proven otherwise, you have to assume Calipari's freshman PG is going to be an incredible college player. Rose, Evans, Wall, Knight ... I'm going to go ahead and assume that Teague will have similar success. He has the talent.

    As for Gilchrist, that guy will make a big impact right off the bat. He already has a man's body, and he is literally great at everything on the basketball court except for jump shooting. He is an elite defender and rebounder for his position, and he is an elite athlete. He's the type of guy who just blends into the game and goes about his business, but when you look at the box score he'll have 16 pts, 10 rebs, 4 asts, and 2 stls, all while shutting down his man on the defensive end. I think he'll be UK's best player next year, and he might be the best player on the court when UK plays UNC. It should be a great match up between him and Barnes.

    3. And one more thing. You said you'd take Henson over Jones and that we should look at the numbers from last year. Here are their numbers from last year:

    John Henson: 11.7 pts, 10.1 rebs, 3.2 blks Terrence Jones: 15.7 pts, 8.8 rebs, 1.9 blks

    Jones scored 4 more ppg, Henson had 1.3 more rpg, and Henson had 1.3 more bpg. I don't think those numbers indicate that Henson is a better or more productive player than Jones.

    Anyway, I can't wait til next year. We should just keep this thread up until the actual game so we can continue the debate.

    Agree to disagree:

    1. (a) McAdoo is not a banger. In fact, the biggest thing he has been working on is his low post game. In high school, he has used his athleticism to dominate and can be described as more finesse. I don't think I have ever seen him characterized as a banger. (b) While no one will confuse Zeller for Sullinger or Randolph, Zeller is a solid 250 or 50 lbs more than Davis. Davis will not be able to get Zeller off the block, which is the best way to defend him. He will live on the block and kill Davis with his practically unblockable baby hook. Also, we bring back the best rebounding front court in basketball last year, which will limit the effectiveness of Davis on the offensive glass.

    2. I don't have to concede anything about Calipari's freshman PGs. I believe in historical indicators in the appropriate context and I don't believe this is the appropriate context. Each class has a different quality of talent and has quality depth at different positions. I don't think you can put Knight in the same category with Rose. Rose is a transcendent talent. Evans and Wall are equal, but Knight doesn't rise to that level. I still think Teague will be good, but I don't think UK's DDMO will be especially effective against UNC without quality jump shooters. The biggest weakness of our defensive philosophy is leaving shooters on the perimeter when our guys sag for help defense. This leaves open looks on the perimeter. If you can't knock it down from the outside, you will minimize the likelihood of your success against UNC. You have already admitted that Gilchrist is a better athlete than shooter. So your perimeter will be reliant on Lamb and Miller. Not really that scary, unless UK is hitting like they did in the Elite Eight, but you don't have the depth of shooters you did last year. Last year, it was more shooters than athletes. This year it is more athletes than shooters.

    3. I should have clarified. I don't think a comparison of season stats is the best indicator of the match up when you have two games to support your assertions. In the two head-to-head match ups, Henson played 54 mins, scoring 17 pts on 7-14 shooting (0-0 from 3), 4 OREBs, 21 REBs, 2 ASSTs, and 4 TOs. Jones played 62 mins, scoring 20 pts on 8-26 shooting (1-5 from 3), 1 OREB, 13 REBs, 1 ASST, and 9 TOs. UK was more reliant on Jones scoring and he only averaged 10 pts a game, which is 5.7 below his season average according to ESPN. Personally, I think Henson exposed Jones and really hurt is NBA draft stock, but that's just me. Henson is best known for his defense and Jones is only known for his offense. Strength against strength, Henson got the best of Jones.

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  • I think UK would be okay with taking open threes. Lamb shot 48.6% from range last season, and Miller shot 44.3% (translation: we have terrific three-point shooters). Jones wasn't great from downtown, but he wasn't bad by any means. He shot 32.9%, which is pretty good for a PF.

    But I still think Teague and Gilchrist would try to get in the paint and do some damage from up-close.

    I think Anthony Davis will try to deny Zeller rather than trying to move him off the block.

    And as for McAdoo, he might not have polished post skills yet, but he is built sturdier than Zeller and Henson. That's really the point I was trying to get across. I don't have a great feel for McAdoo's game; I'm only seen him play three times (Nike, Jordan, and McD's).

    You think McAdoo has a chance to bump Henson out of the starting lineup?

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  • Colten Jones said... (original post)

    I think UK would be okay with taking open threes. Lamb shot 48.6% from range last season, and Miller shot 44.3% (translation: we have terrific three-point shooters). Jones wasn't great from downtown, but he wasn't bad by any means. He shot 32.9%, which is pretty good for a PF.

    But I still think Teague and Gilchrist would try to get in the paint and do some damage from up-close.

    I think Anthony Davis will try to deny Zeller rather than trying to move him off the block.

    And as for McAdoo, he might not have polished post skills yet, but he is built sturdier than Zeller and Henson. That's really the point I was trying to get across. I don't have a great feel for McAdoo's game; I'm only seen him play three times (Nike, Jordan, and McD's).

    You think McAdoo has a chance to bump Henson out of the starting lineup?

    Should be one hellavu game,i'm picking UNC.

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  • Colten Jones said... (original post)

    u think McAdoo has a chance to bump Henson out of the starting lineup?

    Something will had to have gone wrong for McAdoo to crack the starting line up. Besides winning a majority of first possessions at the tip, Henson's presence in the paint has a major impact on the game, which could be seen in the Elite Eight when he was on the bench because of foul trouble. I imagine that both Henson and McAdoo will average around 20-25 minutes a game on the season. The real question will be, who is on the court at the end of the game when it is in question. I think it depends on two things listed in order of importance: (1) How well is Henson shooting free throws, and (2) How well is McAdoo defending.

    There is no question that Roy will earn his money next season managing the rotation. I saw your question about the distribution of minutes next season. I have no idea. Cliche answer - early in the season, the rotation will be deep and slowly taper as March approaches. UNC plays with pace and fresh legs are important, especially at the end of games and at the end of the season. That is why I project Henson and McAdoo to average 20-25 minutes a game. I imagine there will be a solid rotation of Zeller, Henson, and McAdoo with sprinkles of Hubert and Simmons mixed in for experience.

    The UNC-UK game is going to be exciting, but I doubt the advantage of playing in Rupp will enough to cover the experience gap early in the season. Calipari will still be teaching the freshman about defense and defensive effort at the college level. You might be able to convince my that if we meet in the Tourney again UK wins, but I doubt it.

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  • I hope Desmond doesn't red shirt....

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  • dea123 said... (original post)

    uk no question, look at what calipari does with young talent, plus the boys coming back finally, this is the best recruiting class ever, davids freshmon will be the best player in college basketball, he is the next kevin durant.

    Lay off the stuff man.

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