Big Ten Board (Beta)

Since when is Ohio considered "Midwest"...? If it is, I had no idea... It's pretty east to be Midwest. But ok.

USA Today releases its All-USA first and second teams:

http://www.usatodayhss.com/amfam/article/2012-american-family-insurance-all-usa-high-school-football-team

From Midwest:

1st team-- Jaylon Smith, Rob Foster, Laquon Treadwell, Ethan Pocic, Evan Lisle

2nnd team -- Kyle Bosch

Wait until signing day when we pass you on all of the sites...again. Then you can start ranting about how recruiting is overrated.

How do you have a better class? Based on stars? Or what? Devin Gardner will be fine against USC. We will see how horrible Ohio st is next year because you guys weren't even that good. Neither was Michigan so your win doesn't prove much.

I love debating with Meeechigan fans, was last years win over tOSU in A2 matter or "prove much?" we were a .500 team that finished 6-7. or a team that has only beaten us 2 out of the last12 years and THEN you have to go back to microfiche to see the other time period you dominated the rivalry, what1897-1914, you talk a lot. in fact since MODERN day football as we know it has evolved your team again has 1/2 of a NC while MSU, tOSU and COUNTLESS other teams have won MANY more!

Good response to my post--and without getting obscene. Gave you an UP vote.

I think when they figure that, they consider that if you were to draw in the middle of the US where would that line be geographically in order to split the states in 50/50. Since half of the states are bunched together on the east coast and much smaller than the ones out west, that line would be placed somewhere near Ohio and Penn, then on down.

You can tell when the immigrants first got here that they realized they needed to start making states bigger because the land was much bigger than they thought.

It was like "OK heres New York (....) Then OK this lands not stopping yet, heres Ohio (..........) Then "aww F&%k it, CALIFORNIA (...........................................)

Who's better than who is nothing but speculation at this point.

None of these kids have played a down in college.

A lot of these kids can be products of having better teammates and/or weaker competition. They can be playing out of position as a necessity etc.

A perfect example of this is Shane Morris or Jalin Marshal.

Some kids skill/physically develop earlier and some later.

Michigan has a lot of very highly ranked players, it's true.

If our fans want to debate the classes, we could be debating that they don't have enough playmakers coming in.....yet

They can also say we don't have any linebackers coming in....yet.

With the exclusion of Notre Dame and some extent PSU, the Big Ten should be ashamed with their recruiting.

Ttun has a solid class but I don't think you can make the arguement that they out recruited OSU from this list...Ttun has 17 players with a 90+ rating, including their qb (highest rated in Ttun's class), 14 of the 17 are in the Midwest (poggi-MD, hurst jr-MA, fox-CO are "national recruits") on the other hand OSU has a smaller class with 15 guys 90+ with with only 8 fitting in the Midwest footprint, with the top recruit in the OSU class Bosa from FL, and also have Baugh-CA, Barrett-TX, Hill-SC, Lewis-NC, Woodard-NJ, and Elliot-MO being national recruits... ND's class is very good, with a good amount of midwest recruits to go with their national recruits.

And yet OSU's class is still better overall. I think Urban knows what he's doing. And I'm certain he doesn't care where he ranks on this list - he cares how his class is overall, not just with Midwest recruits. And guess what, he is ahead of the entire B1G and ND.

Missouri is more of a Midwestern state than Pennsylvania! People from PA consider themselves MidAtlantic & not Midwest

I'm happy Morris will be at TTUN for the next five years. If he beats TOSU once I'll be shocked! O line is the only area they have recruited at a high level the last two classes. When you look at dynamic playmakers its not even close. They don't have one recruit that matches up athletically with a Marshall, Burrows, Elliott, Apple etc.