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Ducksworth said...
I was really excited about the Pac12 agreement thing and was quite disappointed when it didn't work out. Do you think we'll see anything like that happen in the near future? Like a week similar to basketball's ACC-B1G challenge but with the Pac12, Big12, or SEC. It'd be an awesome week where you could see games like Oklahoma-OSU, Texas-UM, etc.
Do you think anything like that will happen as teams try to strengthen their OOC schedule, or will they want more guaranteed wins?
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UrbanRenewal said...
Steve, How do you explain Brady Hoke's early success up at Michigan and how much of that is Greg Mattison? (i.e. It seems like Hoke has been an average coach throughout his career and the only thing he has going for him is Mattison and most people wouldn't expect him to have so much success recruiting and on the field) On a related note, how will Mattison's previous experience coaching with Meyer effect the outcome of OSU/UM and who do you think benefits more from their previous coaching relationship? (i.e. Does Meyer's or Mattison's knowledge of the other's coaching techniques and game plans give one of them the upper hand)
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SteveHelwagen said...
Oh, for starters, I would not call Hoke an average coach. He caught lightning in a bottle at Ball State with Davis at QB and they had their best year in decades. He then took SDSU to its first bowl game in 12 years. That's not average.
I think it's a familiarity. When he was hired, everybody at Michigan was excited because he was a direct tie back to Moeller and Carr. He was family (unlike RichRod).
I do believe having Mattison alongside helped. That defense went from giving up 35 points in 2010 to 17 last year -- best defennse they've had since they were No. 2 in 2006.
As far as Meyer and Mattison, they were together at ND and also he worked for Meyer at Florida for 3 years as the DC/D-line coach. It will be a classic chess match between the 2. It may work to Mattison's advantage somewhat, but Meyer's spread has evolved. My guess is it comes down to the players on the field more than the schemes, but those will be a factor.
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UrbanRenewal said...
Steve,
Here is Hoke's record by year at Ball State and SDSU. If this is not average or below I don't know what is. Ball State 2003 - 4-8 2004 - 2-9 2005 - 4-7 2006 - 5-7 2007 - 7-6 2008 - 12-1 Overall record at Ball State 34-38
SDSU 2009 - 4-8 2010 - 9-4 Overall record at SDSU 13-12
So less than .500 at Ball State and slightly over .500 at SDSU. In total for eight years of coaching Hoke only had two good years in two lower tier conferences. I understand that you have to be impartial to all BIG fans for this chat, but anybody looking at those numbers would say Hoke is average at best.
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