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SpartanRocky said...
There are 12 teams in the conference.
Also, with 4 year scholarships, you aren't going to see many 25 man recruiting classes going forward. If scholarships get reduced to 80 overall, parity's going to be more common.
Recruiting is a dirty game, but it's the way the world is. I'm not going to whine about Pittman. I will say that if tOSU takes off, it's more Michigan's problem than MSU's for 2 reasons.
1) MSU wasn't pulling the top OH talent when JT was around, so it's not like Meyer "locking up the state" is going to really affect MSU's talent. Michigan, on the other hand, is counting on some of those guys. Go get'em!
2) MSU and tOSU aren't protected rivals, so they meet, what, twice every 6 years or something like that? UM has to play tOSU every year; I have no problem with our mutual rival taking a yearly beating at the hands of Meyer; helps MSU's shot at going to the CCG. Whether or not MSU can beat tOSU in the CCG is kind of immaterial right now; State's still building its program, so any type of success is good.
So go do work Meyer!
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SteveHelwagen said...
One more thought: You look at the bottom five classes in the Big Ten with Minnesota, Indiana, Northwestern, Wisconsin and Illinois.
They are at the bottom of the rankings for all of the 64 or so BCS schools and even below some non-BCS schools like Houston and Arkansas State. That can't happen.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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buckperry said...
Great perspective. I'm sure we'll see each other in the CCG many times over in the next few years.
I'm honestly disappointed in Nebraska. I thought they'd come in and at least play Big 10 defense. Ironically enough, the only time they played up to that level was against MSU
. Not sold on Martinez (or Pelini as an in-game coach) and I think they're looking at 2013 as the earliest time when they can field a full compliment of Big 10 LBs.
Going forward, it's pretty clear that Ohio State will own the Leaders division. I expect a run similar to the one you guys had with JT; multiple years in a row either winning the division outright or tied for the lead. I'd expect tOSU to be in the CCG at least 7/10 years. If you look at it, the bottom 3 teams in the division, IL, PU, IU, are never going to be a legit threat. A fully functioning PSU has shown it can hang with tOSU . . . but they won't be fully functioning for several years, and probably not till the coach after O'Brien comes in.
That leaves Wisconsin to challenge you guys, and up until 2 months ago, I'd say they'd be a thorn in your side. Now they're replacing half their staff and I think BB is one of the worst in-game coaches in the conference. Cryst deserved the Pitt job, he's a hell of an OC and it'll be hard for Bucky to replace him (plus, no Russell Wilson and they lost to tOSU @the Shoe vs. the worst tOSU team in the past 10 years). Really, the only years tOSU has to worry about Wisconsin is when tOSU has to go to Madison.
If you look at the Legends division . . . . looks like a blood-bath going forward. The MSU - UM games should be pretty darn good going forward, with Nebraska nipping at their heels. Iowa usually has an "Up" team every 3-4 years and Northwestern is going to be well-coached as long as Fitz in there. Even Minnesota could be dangerous under Kill (Really like Marquise Gray).
Final thought: Given the competition in the Legends division and the fact that UM is going to be playing tOSU on the last game of the year every year . . . . there's a great chance that tOSU prevents UM from playing in the CCG. Say UM goes into that game 6-1, while MSU is at 5-2 with a W over UM. tOSU beats UM, MSU beats Northwestern, Spartans are in the CCG (assuming Nebraska isn't a factor).
What I'm saying is that UM has a much greater chance of going into "the Game" with a Big 10 loss or 2 than tOSU does. That should ensure a variety of Legends competitors in the CCG.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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tovi05 said...
Bucknut 24 it is obvious you haven't been around for awhile. Michigan has always recruited well in Ohio going back to the days of Bo vs Woody. Michigan also seems to get the best in terms of players (2 Heisman winners) and people with class. Urban will fit in well at Ohio (win at no cost). You have owned Michgan the past 10 years by using a cheat and a liar for a coach. You have taken a step up by getting your own version of a snake oil salesman. The only question is how long before he quits this time?? Funny thing though, with all the winning you have had lately over Michigan, your still 14 years away from just breaking even. Doesn't say much about your program after all!!
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les said...
That's because no one wants to recruits crappy michigan HS players who are by national standards, are both terrible and dumb. There is an exception once in a while and he usually chooses tOSU. The only question about which coach will be around the longest is if the Joke chokes on a pork chop, is it true his family members have actually tried to eat each other? you are right, we are 14 down, because before it became important to us to kick your asses, we spotted you 14 games in the beginning, so since then, we're even, stupid.
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GaBuck said...
I think TTUN started stealing recruits before Coach Meyer did. He convinced Kalis to switch and had his tusks in Dunn before Meyer snatched from his grip. Everybody is quick to point out all the recruits we convinced to switch, but everybody gives TTUN a free pass.
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Bucknut 24 said...
Cry me a river Dantonio and Bielama. This gentleman's agreement is over. New regime has come to town. Do your job and recruit until they sign. They're not yours until they sign on the dotted line.
And it's not going to be the Big 2 little 9. It's going to be the Big 1 and little 10. Look what Urban did in two months. The only reason TTUN had a top 10 class is because of osu's instability and they landed some Ohio talent. The Ohio fence is up and majority of the best will be wearing scarlet and grey.
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OhioBlue1 said...
Bucknut 24 it is obvious you haven't been around for awhile. Michigan has always recruited well in Ohio going back to the days of Bo vs Woody. Michigan also seems to get the best in terms of players (2 Heisman winners) and people with class. Urban will fit in well at Ohio (win at no cost). You have owned Michgan the past 10 years by using a cheat and a liar for a coach. You have taken a step up by getting your own version of a snake oil salesman. The only question is how long before he quits this time?? Funny thing though, with all the winning you have had lately over Michigan, your still 14 years away from just breaking even. Doesn't say much about your program after all!!
mi$h!tagain Zone Blocking scheme led by All World LT Jake Long and 0-4 vs. OSU Mike Hart.
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OhioBlue1 said...
Another Bucknut who doesn't have a clue. Check your history; a rookie Michigan coach (Bo) beat Woody in his first year when Ohio was predicted to win the national championship. You have owned Michigan the last 10 years because of a coach who cheated and lied. Yes, the playing field is (hopefully) now level. Michigan will continue to get prime talent in Ohio because a Michigan degree is worth more than a degree from Ohio. Oh, that's right, who cares about a degree.
Get off our site u little F^&%ing worm... It is Ohio State. Ohio is where you little pencil neck Nancy boys come to nurse at our teats, you and your fat sow of a coach...
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Michigan and UAW driven industry job security… … http://www.theseekerbooks.com/detroit/AbandonAuto.htmlI would travel to Ohio to get my players, too, because there sure aren't many players left living in this third world emabarrassing $h!t-hole loser state...
You got UAW bailouts... You got Sugar Bowl handouts... You can keep your hand out for the players Ohio State does not have room to sign for you worthless little piece of $h!t... Go to MGoBlog with your horse$h!t and stay the F%$& off of Bucknuts. Tool.
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kurtkevin said...
What whiners! I live in Michigan and Drew Sharps aticle in The Free Press is comical. How can it be "stealing" recruits who are from Ohio and want to be Buckeyes? Meyer has backed off of Kalis and Diamond. And Michigan "stole" one from Cincinnati at the last minute, but that was all right because they are "Michigan". Wasn't Dantonio talking to Adolphus until the end? It's a new era in the Big 10. Good luck to Michigan without Ohio's best!!!
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