Big Ten Board (Beta)

Are you contractually required to puff up OSU with a ridiculous ranking in order to maintain your job writing for Bucknuts? How many other preseason polls will have them in the Top 25? Is it too much to ask you show a little impartiality and try to maintain some credibility?

Overnight success for a new staff is rare. It will take at least 2 seasons for the new coaches and players to learn/execute the new system. Therefore, no 10-2 and no #12.

Hey What's with all the 'HATE for tUSC TROJANS from down there in the sticks with the hicks from South Carolina Cock Fan ? FYI (Bama.Auburn,Ark. most recently) We own the $EC and always has just ask '' BEAR ''Bryant. On 'tUSC being all hyped give me a break ,if you didn't know were a perennial, powerhouse and are sitting on multiple championships and the most NFL drafted players ever and could have more if it wasn't for P.Dee and his posse the NZAA witch hunt ,U WANNA KNOW HYPE? UR Ball COACH SPURRIER IS HYPE WHAT HAS HE DONE? oh my bad I forgot he bought rings that says we won 11 games LMAO, thats almost as bad as the oREGON Donald duckies purchasing T-Shirts that said 12-0 on them a couple yrs. back until they got smacked by $cam Newton and Co, I tell u what COCK Fan WIN the SEC first and we can settle this on the field Because ''WE ARE SC'' and ur not, deal with it. Fight On!!!!

I think it does matter. Those are games where they were 1-2 plays from winning. They didn't get blown out six times. No biggie, though, it will all play out this fall. Either I'm right or I'm wrong. It's obvious I could say day and you'd wanna say night (LOL).

It doesn't matter what OSU used to do, it matters what they did last year and what they have coming back. They were awful last year. Your boys have no proven playmakers at wide receiver or running back and your QB is not a very good passer in case you haven't noticed.
He averaged 7 completed passes per game if you recall.

I agree your non-conf schedule is embarrassingly easy. But I don't consider the Nebraska and Penn State games as wins just by "showing up". You lost to both of them last year. I see losses at MSU, Wisconsin, plus Nebraska and Michigan. All teams who offensively will be far superior to OSU. That makes 8 wins the ceiling and assumes no slip ups against Illinois who will be much better with an actual coach for a change, and Purdue who have most of their team back.

You actually have only 4 wins by just "showing up", your three non-conf cupcakes and IU. Cal is a dangerous team and again like most of your opponents will have a better offense than yours. Your defense is going to have to outplay the other team's defense in almost all of your games to get a win.

So a little dose of reality for you Steve. I know you'll ignore it and go back to doing what you need to do to keep the home folks happy with you.

You're missing the big parts of the equation.

Last year tOSU effectively had no offensive coaching and a game plan any moron could predict 100% accurately. Defense was still solid, but not enough to win the close games.

This year we have several offensive geniuses and most of the defensive staff and a decent number of players returning. The Buckeyes won't lose all those close games next year.

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Yes because I'm so contrarian by nature. I along with many have said that OSU at #12 is pure speculation, pronostication, and basically hope on your part. And yes you are right it will all play out this fall (damn that was hard for me to do since all I'm capable of it disagreeing with you).

Helwagen is a giant OSU homer. In previous 247 articles, he used a sock puppet account to compliment himself on his skill and ask questions about OSU in the comment section. It's an absolute joke that 247 continues to give him work writing national articles.

A solid season (the year prior) is not a prerequisite to earn a favorable pre-season ranking for the upcoming season. It is a good measure of where the team and coaches are at. So it's a starting point from where you analyze coaching changes, new players, and the upcoming schedule.

Since reading comprehension is your problem, I'll repost my REAL reason(s) why Ohio State is not, should not and will not be #12.

"sportsfanatic said...

#12 Ohio State? That's too much respect being given to Urban Meyer and the players hitting the field this season. "

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"sportsfanatic said...

Overnight success for a new staff is rare. It will take at least 2 seasons for the new coaches and players to learn/execute the new system. Therefore, no 10-2 and no #12."

Relevant point... (When he became head coach) Urban Meyer took what was a 7-5 Florida team (2004) to a 9-3 record in 2005. That included a bowl win vs. Iowa.

There will not be a bowl game for Ohio State this year. 4 losses looks to be likely for them in 2012. 2 losses is very unlikely and #12 is not justified.

Or we could be just be "narrow minded and short sighted" by putting all losers in the 2012 top 12 because "anything is possible".

Does Oletangybanks feel like you're an OSU homer?

A ranking should be based on how good you think a team is, not how many wins they will get due to an easy schedule. If team A is very talented but has a very tough schedule causing me to think they will go 9-3, and team B has less talent but a very easy schedule and I think they will go 10-2, I would still rank team A higher in the preseason.

If you think OSU is the 12th most talented team in the country, then fine. But don't support your ranking by claiming they have an easy schedule.